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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 15 2015 04:56 GMT
#80421
On January 15 2015 13:36 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 13:27 Gahlo wrote:
On January 15 2015 13:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On January 15 2015 13:19 red_ wrote:
On January 15 2015 13:13 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I'd suggest you guys go and read the rest of Monte's recent tweets to have more context, since he does flesh out his thoughts a little more.


It's almost like twitter is a terrible platform for this type of discussion/thought/whatever you want to call it.

Twitter is the most valuable tool of the internet warrior >: )

Nah dude, tumbler. Don't you listen to anything your potentially hot sister says?

Excuse me

E-Sports Warrior*


Oh. Are you the one that built this town?
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 05:02:29
January 15 2015 04:57 GMT
#80422
On January 15 2015 13:03 Waxangel wrote:


discuss :D

Dunno about condescending, but the LoL subsection definitely had the vibe as the red headed step child of TL.

It should be pretty obvious to Monte what changed the attitude of TL was the big $$$. Just look at the articles being put out now getting front page of Reddit constantly. This kind of shit could have been happening as early as 2 years ago had liquid decided to feature a couple of the articles that was being written and edited by their own fucking staff. Hell, TL could have easily of gotten C9 at that time too. Woulda been sooooo sick.



Looks like MonteCristo isn't the only one with the story.
liftlift > tsm
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 05:04:26
January 15 2015 05:04 GMT
#80423
https://twitter.com/FollowDeman/status/555545552394674176

I don't know why monte is asking for an apology, and I don't see why he thinks tweeting like that is smart. It's not really like monte was part of TL at that time either. I assume he knows more background info than most people, but it's a stupid tweet and it will not do anything helpful.

Also wax so toxic yo
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 15 2015 05:07 GMT
#80424
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 05:12:33
January 15 2015 05:09 GMT
#80425
On January 15 2015 14:04 ketchup wrote:
https://twitter.com/FollowDeman/status/555545552394674176

I don't know why monte is asking for an apology, and I don't see why he thinks tweeting like that is smart. It's not really like monte was part of TL at that time either. I assume he knows more background info than most people, but it's a stupid tweet and it will not do anything helpful.

Also wax so toxic yo

I don't get the apology part. I mean it would be cool if we got a non-PR, no-frills, no-bs, explanation as to what changed TL's mind on LoL. I mean, the LoL subforum stopped putting out super quality content regularly, the only thing that was going on were the occasional Chexx translations/interviews.

Not to mention we as a subforum got hidden fairly recently in the last TL forum change, while it might not of affected any of the regular LoL forum-goers, it definitely limited the number of new eyes that would be able to see the LoL subforum.
liftlift > tsm
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
January 15 2015 05:20 GMT
#80426
It was the money and Riot rule changes more than anything. If there was a half-decent Dota team, they would have been picked up before the Curse merger, but every NA team is utter shit, complete and utter shit. Aside from EG, C9(kinda), and Fire (LOL), there aren't any even half decent NA squads out there that would attract Liquid's eye, so combined with the $$, the move to bring in a decent, if not top level LoL squad, and then a CS team that was rumored to be happening weeks ago, so that doesn't come as that big a surprise.
Steam: rook492
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 15 2015 05:21 GMT
#80427
What's wrong with E-sports elitism?
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 05:23:34
January 15 2015 05:22 GMT
#80428
Anyone point out the hypocrisy of complaining about elitism then demanding an apology as if he's deserving of one? and then deman jumping on board to make fun of TL as well. league has an elitism about it as well especially from riot and the prominent community members.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 15 2015 05:25 GMT
#80429
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 05:28:26
January 15 2015 05:27 GMT
#80430
I mean the other thing to point out is that in the interim, TL got a Hearthstone site + players, Smash players, and cursory HotS coverage.

Anyone who even remotely follows TL could tell there was a shift in goals and overall direction for the site.

It's not like nothing happened for 2 years and suddenly we got a LoL team. There was already a pretty clear shift in TL's approach to E-sports that happened well before TL got a LoL team.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 15 2015 05:34 GMT
#80431
On January 15 2015 14:27 TheYango wrote:
I mean the other thing to point out is that in the interim, TL got a Hearthstone site + players, Smash players, and cursory HotS coverage.

Anyone who even remotely follows TL could tell there was a shift in goals and overall direction for the site.

It's not like nothing happened for 2 years and suddenly we got a LoL team. There was already a pretty clear shift in TL's approach to E-sports that happened well before TL got a LoL team.

If you looked at the treatment of LoL subforum in isolation though... Again, I don't get the whole "needs apology" thing.
liftlift > tsm
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 05:40:24
January 15 2015 05:37 GMT
#80432
On January 15 2015 14:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 14:27 TheYango wrote:
I mean the other thing to point out is that in the interim, TL got a Hearthstone site + players, Smash players, and cursory HotS coverage.

Anyone who even remotely follows TL could tell there was a shift in goals and overall direction for the site.

It's not like nothing happened for 2 years and suddenly we got a LoL team. There was already a pretty clear shift in TL's approach to E-sports that happened well before TL got a LoL team.

If you looked at the treatment of LoL subforum in isolation though... Again, I don't get the whole "needs apology" thing.

i don't see the treatment of the subforum as bad at all. they let the mods govern the forum themselves outside of hammers coming in to ban spam bots and stuff. the league community here was free to do whatever they liked and were given staff. if its because they weren't put in the front page? eh, everyone who was in the Lol subforum saw every written piece anyway, and the others were not interested. they never actively promoted league but thats not always a bad thing. the strategy forum was at least functional which is more than sc2 and dota 2 were for a large portion of their existence. In addition two entities(reddit and riot) controlled so much of the league media it would be difficult to bother competing especially since riot has a policy of poaching anyone who does good stuff about league. to get into league TL would have to either go all in with paid staff to compete or do this kind of move with the merger to instantly "gain credibility" with the league scene, much of which is too young to even have watched BW or know TL quality.

The apology is typical monte arrogance. i wish we had more of that monte arrogance about himself and his scene rather than about riot and league as a whole. he's gotten rather soapboxy lately.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 05:46:16
January 15 2015 05:39 GMT
#80433
What "treatment"?

Official coverage doesn't make sense without the associated logistical change of acquiring a team. Without that, coverage in an official capacity doesn't make any sense. There's zero gain as an organization entering the field solely for providing "content", especially given that writing staff at the time wouldn't make the daring move of covering only a less-covered region like China at the time and instead primarily provided LCS coverage, which was an oversaturated market. For it to be "worth it" it essentially had to go alongside the acquisition of a team.

Expecting TL to pick up C9 at that point in time, as nice as it sounds, is a total pipe dream because there were literally zero people on TL Staff with the knowhow and the connections to scout and negotiate with amateur talent in League of Legends. The current arrangement only happened because a prominent team suddenly no longer had a title sponsor, which allowed the merger to happen at an organizational level, through negotiations between Nazgul and Liquid as the owners of their respective organizations.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 15 2015 05:44 GMT
#80434
http://www.businessinsider.com/martin-pistorius-ghost-boy-trapped-in-his-head-2015-1

Dang.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
January 15 2015 06:00 GMT
#80435
On January 15 2015 13:56 Scip wrote:
So, I just finished reading Lolita

lolita is my favorite book ^^
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 15 2015 06:34 GMT
#80436
I dunno if this is the place for this, but I am having some internet problems. Recently I've been randomly disconnecting from things like LoL or poker. My browser still works totally fine, but right now I'm completely unable to connect to anything that involves ping. Does anyone know a possible reason/solution for this?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 15 2015 06:52 GMT
#80437
day9 tried control hunter, but no explosive sheep + feign death combo makes me sad.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 07:00:17
January 15 2015 06:58 GMT
#80438
On January 15 2015 15:34 GolemMadness wrote:
I dunno if this is the place for this, but I am having some internet problems. Recently I've been randomly disconnecting from things like LoL or poker. My browser still works totally fine, but right now I'm completely unable to connect to anything that involves ping. Does anyone know a possible reason/solution for this?


I don't think you've provided enough information for your issue(like what ISP you have and more information on when your issue occurs. Someone more knowledgeable can ask the better questions).

Regardless, I recall reading a thread recently where people were having issues like yours. I do know that switching to google's dns might be an easy/simple solution to attempt:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2s0duy/switching_to_googles_public_dns_servers_got_rid/
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 15 2015 07:05 GMT
#80439
On January 15 2015 15:34 GolemMadness wrote:
I dunno if this is the place for this, but I am having some internet problems. Recently I've been randomly disconnecting from things like LoL or poker. My browser still works totally fine, but right now I'm completely unable to connect to anything that involves ping. Does anyone know a possible reason/solution for this?

If your wifi/NiC driver up to date?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 15 2015 07:53 GMT
#80440
Windows 8.1 gave me that shocking feeling of "oh god is this what it's like to be that 60 year old guy trying to work a computer" feeling. Then I installed the Shell and now I'm better.

Top of the line PC, time to play hearthstone.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
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