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On January 09 2015 06:21 phyvo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 05:55 red_ wrote:
I remember reading a study(no way I'm going to look for it) that went into detail about how there are sales methods that are so effective that people told ahead of time what would be 'used against them' were still influenced by it. It has to do with the way our brains process certain information, especially with numbers. I see stuff like this in a lot of race perception studies. Sure, you won't get most people to outright say racist stuff like "I cross to the other side of the street when I see a black man but not a white man" but even if we don't hold those views we still lean towards that kind of thing in ways that sociologists and neurologists have measured. Same thing with advertising. Sure we know they are trying to streamline us into buying their stuff, that's what advertising is for. But knowing that often doesn't remove our inherent bias and so that bias can be exploited anyways. If pricing everything at $9.99 instead of $10.00 didn't increase sales no one would do it and that's just one of a million small ways you can be manipulated.
oh yeah like the audition judges for orchestras stay they arn't sexist but then when they switch to blind auditions there is always a massive influx of women accepted.
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On January 09 2015 06:06 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 05:50 Amarok wrote:
You should be embarrassed if any advertising works on you (hot grill or otherwise). That is to say if advertising makes you buy/be interested in something you don't want or need. That just means you weren't able to evaluate the product when detached from the trimming. If you can evaluate the product properly there's nothing wrong with enjoying a hot grill on TV/website/billboard.
Unless you're driving. Hot grills are my #1 driving hazard. If you discover a product because of advertising and then evaluate it as a good buy then the advertising worked. people who make the best products advertise too.
Yeah I agree. My definition of "works" was a bit different I guess.
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On January 09 2015 06:27 Amarok wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 06:06 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 09 2015 05:50 Amarok wrote:
You should be embarrassed if any advertising works on you (hot grill or otherwise). That is to say if advertising makes you buy/be interested in something you don't want or need. That just means you weren't able to evaluate the product when detached from the trimming. If you can evaluate the product properly there's nothing wrong with enjoying a hot grill on TV/website/billboard.
Unless you're driving. Hot grills are my #1 driving hazard. If you discover a product because of advertising and then evaluate it as a good buy then the advertising worked. people who make the best products advertise too. Yeah I agree. My definition of "works" was a bit different I guess.
yeah i was using your definition too i think
random comic: http://explosm.net/rcg/JudiciousTestDebt
http://explosm.net/rcg/CurvyDinnerPleasure
for some reason its funny because its random
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OH GOD MY RIGHT HEADPHONE STOPPED WORKING
this is terrible
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On January 09 2015 06:19 Requizen wrote:
It's much easier to manage once you figure out which posters to ignore.
Na, doesn't work this way. Do you see newbies in LoL? They're so afraid they don't even try to take risks or cs or stuff and they don't learn. Gotta all-in all the time to know the limits!
So random shots at everybody. Promotes a nice atmosphere too!
Oooh, Silence on stream~ That track was so good (pun intended).
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lmao the site format for LL made me accidentally start using Subscribed Threads because Subscribed Threads is where General would be on the main page if we actually had a news section.
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This just in yango trashing the new site. What could this mean for his hammer on TL main site?
More at 11
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On January 09 2015 06:42 Rockafellalp wrote:
This just in yango trashing the new site. What could this mean for his hammer on TL main site?
More at 11
Less hammer, more giant troll club
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On January 09 2015 06:38 TheYango wrote:
lmao the site format for LL made me accidentally start using Subscribed Threads because Subscribed Threads is where General would be on the main page if we actually had a news section.
Well TIL. I've just been going straight to the Threads link at the top per the usual.
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On January 09 2015 06:25 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 06:21 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 05:55 red_ wrote:
I remember reading a study(no way I'm going to look for it) that went into detail about how there are sales methods that are so effective that people told ahead of time what would be 'used against them' were still influenced by it. It has to do with the way our brains process certain information, especially with numbers. I see stuff like this in a lot of race perception studies. Sure, you won't get most people to outright say racist stuff like "I cross to the other side of the street when I see a black man but not a white man" but even if we don't hold those views we still lean towards that kind of thing in ways that sociologists and neurologists have measured. Same thing with advertising. Sure we know they are trying to streamline us into buying their stuff, that's what advertising is for. But knowing that often doesn't remove our inherent bias and so that bias can be exploited anyways. If pricing everything at $9.99 instead of $10.00 didn't increase sales no one would do it and that's just one of a million small ways you can be manipulated. I get super white guilt-y when i'm walking to a store and a black guy walks past me "i hope he didnt think i scratched my arm because i was nervous around him, a fly was buzzing around me"
I am totally guilty of doing the exact example I mentioned. I was uncomfortable in an unfamiliar part of greater Boston and I actually crossed to the other side of the street to avoid a stereotypical young black guy swagging down the sidewalk the other way.
So yeah, inside there's some racist part of me. It's sad. Next time I'll have to defeat racist me.
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OH MY GOD CASTLEVANIA SYMPHONY OF THE BEST GAME EVER
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On January 09 2015 06:49 phyvo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 06:25 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 09 2015 06:21 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 05:55 red_ wrote:
I remember reading a study(no way I'm going to look for it) that went into detail about how there are sales methods that are so effective that people told ahead of time what would be 'used against them' were still influenced by it. It has to do with the way our brains process certain information, especially with numbers. I see stuff like this in a lot of race perception studies. Sure, you won't get most people to outright say racist stuff like "I cross to the other side of the street when I see a black man but not a white man" but even if we don't hold those views we still lean towards that kind of thing in ways that sociologists and neurologists have measured. Same thing with advertising. Sure we know they are trying to streamline us into buying their stuff, that's what advertising is for. But knowing that often doesn't remove our inherent bias and so that bias can be exploited anyways. If pricing everything at $9.99 instead of $10.00 didn't increase sales no one would do it and that's just one of a million small ways you can be manipulated. I get super white guilt-y when i'm walking to a store and a black guy walks past me "i hope he didnt think i scratched my arm because i was nervous around him, a fly was buzzing around me" I am totally guilty of doing the exact example I mentioned. I was uncomfortable in an unfamiliar part of greater Boston and I actually crossed to the other side of the street to avoid a stereotypical young black guy swagging down the sidewalk the other way. So yeah, inside there's some racist part of me. It's sad. Next time I'll have to defeat racist me.
I went to college mere streets away from some very scary gang territory. *shrug* It might be a little racist, but it's not completely unfounded.
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On January 09 2015 06:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 06:49 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 06:25 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 09 2015 06:21 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 05:55 red_ wrote:
I remember reading a study(no way I'm going to look for it) that went into detail about how there are sales methods that are so effective that people told ahead of time what would be 'used against them' were still influenced by it. It has to do with the way our brains process certain information, especially with numbers. I see stuff like this in a lot of race perception studies. Sure, you won't get most people to outright say racist stuff like "I cross to the other side of the street when I see a black man but not a white man" but even if we don't hold those views we still lean towards that kind of thing in ways that sociologists and neurologists have measured. Same thing with advertising. Sure we know they are trying to streamline us into buying their stuff, that's what advertising is for. But knowing that often doesn't remove our inherent bias and so that bias can be exploited anyways. If pricing everything at $9.99 instead of $10.00 didn't increase sales no one would do it and that's just one of a million small ways you can be manipulated. I get super white guilt-y when i'm walking to a store and a black guy walks past me "i hope he didnt think i scratched my arm because i was nervous around him, a fly was buzzing around me" I am totally guilty of doing the exact example I mentioned. I was uncomfortable in an unfamiliar part of greater Boston and I actually crossed to the other side of the street to avoid a stereotypical young black guy swagging down the sidewalk the other way. So yeah, inside there's some racist part of me. It's sad. Next time I'll have to defeat racist me. I went to college mere streets away from some very scary gang territory. *shrug* It might be a little racist, but it's not completely unfounded.
God you guys are silly sometimes, if you had seen a big burly white guy in a sleeveless biker jacket you'd of done the same thing and not thought a thing about it. I lived in some as I think about it, pretty not so safe places in my time. Hell the projects was my neighbor in highschool and yeah even my friends from there would of crossed the street if they felt like it was going to be a problem. You dudes are confusing racism with being cautious.
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On January 09 2015 06:59 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 06:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 09 2015 06:49 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 06:25 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 09 2015 06:21 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 05:55 red_ wrote:
I remember reading a study(no way I'm going to look for it) that went into detail about how there are sales methods that are so effective that people told ahead of time what would be 'used against them' were still influenced by it. It has to do with the way our brains process certain information, especially with numbers. I see stuff like this in a lot of race perception studies. Sure, you won't get most people to outright say racist stuff like "I cross to the other side of the street when I see a black man but not a white man" but even if we don't hold those views we still lean towards that kind of thing in ways that sociologists and neurologists have measured. Same thing with advertising. Sure we know they are trying to streamline us into buying their stuff, that's what advertising is for. But knowing that often doesn't remove our inherent bias and so that bias can be exploited anyways. If pricing everything at $9.99 instead of $10.00 didn't increase sales no one would do it and that's just one of a million small ways you can be manipulated. I get super white guilt-y when i'm walking to a store and a black guy walks past me "i hope he didnt think i scratched my arm because i was nervous around him, a fly was buzzing around me" I am totally guilty of doing the exact example I mentioned. I was uncomfortable in an unfamiliar part of greater Boston and I actually crossed to the other side of the street to avoid a stereotypical young black guy swagging down the sidewalk the other way. So yeah, inside there's some racist part of me. It's sad. Next time I'll have to defeat racist me. I went to college mere streets away from some very scary gang territory. *shrug* It might be a little racist, but it's not completely unfounded. God you guys are silly sometimes, if you had seen a big burly white guy in a sleeveless biker jacket you'd of done the same thing and not thought a thing about it. I lived in some as I think about it, pretty not so safe places in my time. Hell the projects was my neighbor in highschool and yeah even my friends from there would of crossed the street if they felt like it was going to be a problem. You dudes are confusing racism with being cautious.
That's kind of what I'm saying - it's being cautious, but could be perceived as racist. I might be cautious around a few big ol' biker dudes, just as I would in a dangerous part of Springfield. But just because I see it as being cautious, doesn't mean that it couldn't be misconstrued as racism.
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On January 09 2015 07:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 06:59 Parnage wrote:On January 09 2015 06:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 09 2015 06:49 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 06:25 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 09 2015 06:21 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 05:55 red_ wrote:
I remember reading a study(no way I'm going to look for it) that went into detail about how there are sales methods that are so effective that people told ahead of time what would be 'used against them' were still influenced by it. It has to do with the way our brains process certain information, especially with numbers. I see stuff like this in a lot of race perception studies. Sure, you won't get most people to outright say racist stuff like "I cross to the other side of the street when I see a black man but not a white man" but even if we don't hold those views we still lean towards that kind of thing in ways that sociologists and neurologists have measured. Same thing with advertising. Sure we know they are trying to streamline us into buying their stuff, that's what advertising is for. But knowing that often doesn't remove our inherent bias and so that bias can be exploited anyways. If pricing everything at $9.99 instead of $10.00 didn't increase sales no one would do it and that's just one of a million small ways you can be manipulated. I get super white guilt-y when i'm walking to a store and a black guy walks past me "i hope he didnt think i scratched my arm because i was nervous around him, a fly was buzzing around me" I am totally guilty of doing the exact example I mentioned. I was uncomfortable in an unfamiliar part of greater Boston and I actually crossed to the other side of the street to avoid a stereotypical young black guy swagging down the sidewalk the other way. So yeah, inside there's some racist part of me. It's sad. Next time I'll have to defeat racist me. I went to college mere streets away from some very scary gang territory. *shrug* It might be a little racist, but it's not completely unfounded. God you guys are silly sometimes, if you had seen a big burly white guy in a sleeveless biker jacket you'd of done the same thing and not thought a thing about it. I lived in some as I think about it, pretty not so safe places in my time. Hell the projects was my neighbor in highschool and yeah even my friends from there would of crossed the street if they felt like it was going to be a problem. You dudes are confusing racism with being cautious. That's kind of what I'm saying - it's being cautious, but could be perceived as racist, and that wouldn't be completely unfounded. I might be cautious around a few big ol' biker dudes, just as I would in a dangerous part of Springfield. But just because I see it as being cautious, doesn't mean that it couldn't be misconstrued as racism.
Who cares, you know it's not racist, the other party most likely doesn't give a damn about what you're doing and anyone else can feth off. It's just funny that people have this idea that they have to be so politically correct that the very idea of being perceived as racist by some unknown party is a bigger danger then the possibility of being mugged, attacked etc.
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I mean i'm gonna avoid the guy who looks like he's got a gun tucked into his pants, but if its just a dude i dont care ever. but white guilt seeps in the strangest situations. i once slept with a girl solely because of white guilt.
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On January 09 2015 07:11 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 07:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 09 2015 06:59 Parnage wrote:On January 09 2015 06:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 09 2015 06:49 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 06:25 PrinceXizor wrote:On January 09 2015 06:21 phyvo wrote:On January 09 2015 05:55 red_ wrote:
I remember reading a study(no way I'm going to look for it) that went into detail about how there are sales methods that are so effective that people told ahead of time what would be 'used against them' were still influenced by it. It has to do with the way our brains process certain information, especially with numbers. I see stuff like this in a lot of race perception studies. Sure, you won't get most people to outright say racist stuff like "I cross to the other side of the street when I see a black man but not a white man" but even if we don't hold those views we still lean towards that kind of thing in ways that sociologists and neurologists have measured. Same thing with advertising. Sure we know they are trying to streamline us into buying their stuff, that's what advertising is for. But knowing that often doesn't remove our inherent bias and so that bias can be exploited anyways. If pricing everything at $9.99 instead of $10.00 didn't increase sales no one would do it and that's just one of a million small ways you can be manipulated. I get super white guilt-y when i'm walking to a store and a black guy walks past me "i hope he didnt think i scratched my arm because i was nervous around him, a fly was buzzing around me" I am totally guilty of doing the exact example I mentioned. I was uncomfortable in an unfamiliar part of greater Boston and I actually crossed to the other side of the street to avoid a stereotypical young black guy swagging down the sidewalk the other way. So yeah, inside there's some racist part of me. It's sad. Next time I'll have to defeat racist me. I went to college mere streets away from some very scary gang territory. *shrug* It might be a little racist, but it's not completely unfounded. God you guys are silly sometimes, if you had seen a big burly white guy in a sleeveless biker jacket you'd of done the same thing and not thought a thing about it. I lived in some as I think about it, pretty not so safe places in my time. Hell the projects was my neighbor in highschool and yeah even my friends from there would of crossed the street if they felt like it was going to be a problem. You dudes are confusing racism with being cautious. That's kind of what I'm saying - it's being cautious, but could be perceived as racist, and that wouldn't be completely unfounded. I might be cautious around a few big ol' biker dudes, just as I would in a dangerous part of Springfield. But just because I see it as being cautious, doesn't mean that it couldn't be misconstrued as racism. Who cares, you know it's not racist, the other party most likely doesn't give a damn about what you're doing and anyone else can feth off. It's just funny that people have this idea that they have to be so politically correct that the very idea of being perceived as racist by some unknown party is a bigger danger then the possibility of being mugged, attacked etc.
Oh, I don't care at all. Hence the "*shrug*" in my earlier post. =P
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I'm pretty sure that if it had been a ripped white biker dude I would have stayed on that side of the street. Obviously I can't *know* (and walking by a ripped white biker might have been stupid) but that's the reason why I feel I did it and that's the closest anyone is ever going to get to knowing in my case.
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