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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 04 2014 01:19 GMT
#71981
In Canada we like to focus on instances where the British fucked us over, so we do cover the Battle of Hong Kong.
I am the Town Medic.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
December 04 2014 01:22 GMT
#71982
I heard japan was arming every man woman and child to resist the americans as much as possible during a land invasion and the nuking is what made them forfeit so it actually saved lives. but of course i was taught in north america. Japan would have probably stopped being jerks if everyone one of their allies was already blown up? and america made them denounce their emperor as a god or w.e. which is pretty messed up.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 04 2014 01:22 GMT
#71983
On December 04 2014 10:18 Ketara wrote:
Sounds like a really horrible WW2 course if it's about US WW2 History and they didn't talk about the Asian front.

The US was much more involved in Asia than they were in Europe.

supposedly it was about general ww2 history, it just sounded like us ww2 history with how it was held
A backwards poet writes inverse.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 04 2014 01:24 GMT
#71984
On December 04 2014 10:22 ComaDose wrote:
I heard japan was arming every man woman and child to resist the americans as much as possible during a land invasion and the nuking is what made them forfeit so it actually saved lives. but of course i was taught in north america. Japan would have probably stopped being jerks if everyone one of their allies was already blown up? and america made them denounce their emperor as a god or w.e. which is pretty messed up.

That was the argument that was held, which was pretty fair enough considering their never surrender mentality throughout the Pacific scene.

As for the post-ww2 agreements with the Japanese, I wouldn't know enough about that to comment.
liftlift > tsm
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 04 2014 01:29 GMT
#71985
As a side note, I recently learned that the current Yamato dynasty of Japan is essentially the only dynasty they've ever had. The current emperor's ancestors have been emperors themselves going back to 660 BC. Pretty cool.
I am the Town Medic.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
December 04 2014 01:32 GMT
#71986
On December 04 2014 10:07 Crusnik wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit

The casters right now are mostly just fucking around, but it's still kinda funny if not that informative.

Summit is kinda like HSC for Dota, player/casters, with Gang Beasts inbetween matches, also, token Black^ guy.


The games are pretty whacky honestly. Half entertaining, half wtf is this
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 01:35:07
December 04 2014 01:32 GMT
#71987
On December 04 2014 10:18 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 10:12 Dandel Ion wrote:
I once sat in on a history course at a us college
it was about ww2
it was incredibly amusing how the guy talked about everything as if the americans were relevant at all, such bias much wow
i finally left when he started justifying the nukes on the japs


as a side note it's pretty funny how both in the us nor here in best continent was there ever a word uttered about the asian part of the war. except of course that one time when the wonky japs crashed their planes on people, but other than that...


. . .best troll post 2014?


Not nearly as beautifully subtle as wavebait.

Hey wave, I hope you get good news from a doctor soon. =\
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 04 2014 01:33 GMT
#71988
I thought "I'll get to sleep after this game" 40 minutes ago...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 04 2014 01:34 GMT
#71989
Mmm Guinness
It's your boy Guzma!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 01:38:21
December 04 2014 01:35 GMT
#71990
I am pretty sure that the nukes dropped on Japan is the greatest war crime in history. From what I have read its often seen as as way to influence the world and show up as world power leading into the cold war. Sorry, I mean the winner don't commit war crimes.

I read that a bomber that bombed Dresden during ww2 said that if we don't win we will be charged for war crimes.

As for history I did ww1, ww2, French revolution, Russian revolution, the great leap, vikings!, Swedish imperial history.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
December 04 2014 01:38 GMT
#71991
On December 04 2014 10:32 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 10:07 Crusnik wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit

The casters right now are mostly just fucking around, but it's still kinda funny if not that informative.

Summit is kinda like HSC for Dota, player/casters, with Gang Beasts inbetween matches, also, token Black^ guy.


The games are pretty whacky honestly. Half entertaining, half wtf is this


Well, we have 4 genuine T1 teams (EG, Vici, Secret C9), one that no one knows where the fuck they belong (Team Tinker), and the Peruvians (Not Today)

C9 is also...I want to call them a T1 team, but then they have games like that one, or worse, where they just up and lose to like Vega Squadron or some other T2 team, or they get a massive lead, and then throw or PieLieDie's tactical feeding ends up just being feeding....

Fuck C9, why must you tug on heart strings?
Steam: rook492
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 01:40:20
December 04 2014 01:38 GMT
#71992
On December 04 2014 10:35 Eppa! wrote:
I am pretty sure that the nukes dropped on Japan is the greatest war crime in history. From what I have read its often seen as as way to influence the world and show up as world power leading into the cold war.


This is a pretty awesome troll post, IMO.

Nukes dropped on Japan clearly more evil than holocaust.

Or I mean, more evil than the salting of Carthage, if we want to be all "All of History" about it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 04 2014 01:41 GMT
#71993
On December 04 2014 10:38 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 10:35 Eppa! wrote:
I am pretty sure that the nukes dropped on Japan is the greatest war crime in history. From what I have read its often seen as as way to influence the world and show up as world power leading into the cold war.


This is a pretty awesome troll post, IMO.

Nukes dropped on Japan clearly more evil than holocaust.


Anyone remember what Japan was doing back then..? Cus I'm fairly certain China, a large chunk of Southeast Asia, would love to remind you.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 04 2014 01:44 GMT
#71994
I had a US History course in middle school that was taught by a guy with a giant American flag on the back of his pickup, followed by a course in high school that was taught by someone who told us at least once per class to stick it to the man.
I got two very different versions of events.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
December 04 2014 01:45 GMT
#71995
The holocaust wasn't a warcrime? I thought it was labeled as crimes against humanity.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 04 2014 01:46 GMT
#71996
On December 04 2014 10:41 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 10:38 Ketara wrote:
On December 04 2014 10:35 Eppa! wrote:
I am pretty sure that the nukes dropped on Japan is the greatest war crime in history. From what I have read its often seen as as way to influence the world and show up as world power leading into the cold war.


This is a pretty awesome troll post, IMO.

Nukes dropped on Japan clearly more evil than holocaust.


Anyone remember what Japan was doing back then..? Cus I'm fairly certain China, a large chunk of Southeast Asia, would love to remind you.

Pretty sure every country in asia has a reason to hate the Japanese.
liftlift > tsm
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 01:51:21
December 04 2014 01:47 GMT
#71997
Greatest in history is clearly absurd, Hiroshima only had 300k casualties. Obviously that's a lot of people, but there are plenty of things that killed way more and were less justified. The imperialist Italian invasion of Ethiopia killed 750 000 people, many by illegal chemical weapons which is way worse than instant death to a bomb.

Would I get away with referring to the "imperialist American invasion of Vietnam"? How is that war treated down south nowadays?
I am the Town Medic.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 04 2014 01:48 GMT
#71998
On December 04 2014 10:45 Eppa! wrote:
The holocaust wasn't a warcrime? I thought it was labeled as crimes against humanity.

it was a crime against humanity.
although the parts of the holocaust where they killed civilians of occupied countries (mostly poland) was also a war crime in addition to that
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 01:54:30
December 04 2014 01:51 GMT
#71999
On December 04 2014 10:47 Alzadar wrote:
Greatest in history is clearly absurd, Hiroshima only had 300k casualties. Obviously that's a lot of people, but there are plenty of things that killed way more and were less justified. The imperialist Italian invasion of Ethiopia killed 750 000 people, many by illegal chemical weapons which is way worse than instant death to a bomb.


Pretty much. I mean Colonial Africa is pretty much a checkerboard of things that shouldn't of happened. If you want to go way back, the Romans sure as hell wasn't civil about those who pissed them off. Nor the mongol empire. History is littered with death and atrocities to a point that to start listing them off would lessen the impact as you'd think it the norm.

People have the ability for great evils and great goods. *shrug* This is getting too heavy thou so can we move on?

Vietnam is treated as a "we shouldn't of done that" and the reasoning we got involved was a paranoia of Domino theory and the gulf of tonkin incident(which is explained as shady at the very least)
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 01:54:37
December 04 2014 01:52 GMT
#72000
On December 04 2014 10:35 Eppa! wrote:
I am pretty sure that the nukes dropped on Japan is the greatest war crime in history.

uhh.. i don't see how. destroying a third of two cities and 200k casualties isn't even close to the scale of some of the terrible things done in war. i mean the Armenian genocide makes dropping the atomic bombs look like a peace treaty.

On December 04 2014 10:47 Alzadar wrote:Would I get away with referring to the "imperialist American invasion of Vietnam"? How is that war treated down south nowadays?

We wouldn't be happy being called imperialist for it. as we weren't attempting to control the country like the french were who left before us. We would call it one of the biggest mistakes in american history to have even gone there in the first place.

i don't know many non war-hawks that think the vietnam war was a good idea.
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