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PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

November 24 2014 18:16 GMT

#70241

On November 25 2014 03:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:
He made a succinct post that sums up basically what our entire debate boiled (heh) down to. That doesn't make the debate any less retarded.

he said the exact same thing as me and your response is completely different because it wasn't me that said it lol.

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

November 24 2014 18:23 GMT

#70242

On November 25 2014 03:16 PrinceXizor wrote:

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he said the exact same thing as me and your response is completely different because it wasn't me that said it lol.

Where did you say that? If so, my apologies.

Regardless, I'm with dandelion - I vote for cooking build orders

Cixah

United States11285 Posts

November 24 2014 18:25 GMT

#70243

TL Cooking Build Orders should be a thread?

Why isn't that a thing.

Lord Tolkien

United States12084 Posts

November 24 2014 18:26 GMT

#70244

On November 25 2014 03:14 Alaric wrote:
Guys. How about CostCo?

They're expanding into France soon (tm), so you unenlightened heathens may soon see the light.

Alzadar

Canada5009 Posts

November 24 2014 18:26 GMT

#70245

New legendary reveal:

http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/136/844/635524282675135626.png

I think this is really good, 9 health is a ton at 7 mana, it can't be BGHed without pinging it first and if it lives there's plenty of ways for it to one-shot your hero.

red_

United States8474 Posts

November 24 2014 18:26 GMT

#70246

On November 25 2014 02:59 Tooplark wrote:

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On November 25 2014 02:44 red_ wrote:

On November 25 2014 02:18 PrinceXizor wrote:

On November 25 2014 01:44 red_ wrote:

But see now you're starting to make the point of why cooking high quality meals vs building a high quality PC is just not a good analogy. I can build a really good machine in very little time, or at least I don't save much time if I buy pre-built. High quality food just doesn't really work that way. I'm not saying go buy tons of 'pre-built' fast food or whatnot, I'm just saying the analogy falls apart for me. It's useless.

Most of the time in cooking is waiting. much like building a PC.

On November 25 2014 02:09 Seuss wrote:
Cooking is pretty daunting for someone who hasn't yet invested time and energy into learning how to do it. Experienced cooks often sell the end results of said efforts without mentioning how long everything will take initially.

For a complete dunce or recovering ramen-fueled college student it goes like this.

Receive recipe.
Go to store to pick up incredients for recipe.
Spend twice as long or more shopping than any cook would expect. Finding unfamiliar ingredients/cuts of meat is hard.
Take five times longer to dice/skin/prepare ingredients than recipe expects.
Trip up over assumptions in the recipe. "Oh, I was supposed to do X first/in parallel/later." happens, a lot.
Find out your bowls/pans/whatever are too big/small/warped for what you're doing.
An attempt at baking/frying/boiling/whatever happens.
Results are not quite right, but edible.
Total time spent is forever.
Never again.

Once you've learned the basics and have a few familiar recipes things go far quicker, but that takes time. You're going to be several dozen extended grocery trips and multi-hour cooking misadventures in before the time investment per meal shrinks to a comfortable level.

It's ultimately worth it, you can save yourself a ton of money and be healthier by cooking for yourself, but it's like climbing a mountain that starts with a cliff face before tapering off into more reasonable climb.

aye, but we were comparing people who know how to build a PC and saying its easy and takes little time to me, who knows how to cook and bake and it doesn't take much time for me.

i don't know how to build a PC and i can tell you it'd likely take me a week to research parts, order them, get replacements when i screw it up ect.

It entirely depends on what you are preparing(unlike a PC, where it's pretty much always the same). I'm not a master chef or anything, but I'm not a novice to the kitchen either. I prepare a very large % of my meals, and I prepare them in bulk ahead of the time when I can. It's still time consuming.

A PC will last you 2-years if you're quick on the upgrade, 4-5 or more if you don't mind falling behind in tech and playing games on low settings as it ages. There's just no comparison to cooking here. Even if you learn to cook, to maintain quality will still take considerable time and effort, whereas learning to build a PC once makes it an extremely streamlined process pretty much every time you do it in the future.

I'm probably a kind of outlier here because of how/what I eat, but that's obviously built in to my personal disagreement with your post that started this discussion.

As you said, it depends on what you eat.
I tend to make things like chili, curry, stew, or beans and rice, that I can cook up in huge quantities for almost no effort. These dishes are pretty much just "put the ingredients in the pot, turn the heat on". Takes me 10 minutes of effort for a week worth of food. And apart from chopping vegetables there's nothing to really learn about them. Pretty sure any one of you could make chili in 15 minutes.
When I started making pancakes, on the other hand, it took me about an hour to make the batter. I made them every week, though, and gradually got the process down to 10 minutes. Practice!

Ya it's not like I never ever make a quick meal, but my typical 'diet' that I enjoy means I accept there is going to be prep time involved. I try to do as much of it as I can in sessions so that the minor prep activities are done just that time and not repeated multiple times a day. There's give and take. Sometimes I want scrambled eggs or an omelette because I much prefer them, sometimes I'll boil a horrifyingly large number of eggs because setting a timer is effortless and I can then just grab them and eat whenever.

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

November 24 2014 18:30 GMT

#70247

On November 25 2014 03:26 Alzadar wrote:
New legendary reveal:

http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/136/844/635524282675135626.png

I think this is really good, 9 health is a ton at 7 mana, it can't be BGHed without pinging it first and if it lives there's plenty of ways for it to one-shot your hero.

oh god

oh god why

we don't need a hydra NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............................

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

November 24 2014 18:30 GMT

#70248

Another new card
+ Show Spoiler +

Seems pretty good.

Zess

Adun Toridas!9144 Posts

November 24 2014 18:31 GMT

#70249

On November 25 2014 03:30 onlywonderboy wrote:

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Another new card
+ Show Spoiler +

Seems pretty good.

Your image breaks everything.

Edit: nvm it just too forever to load and while it was loading the auto-resize didn't work

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

November 24 2014 18:31 GMT

#70250

I wouldn't base a serious deck around this card by itself, the lack of charge means your opponent does have the chance to remove it before you can combo (barring Tundra Rhino). But there are a lot of ways to set up the killer combo if your opponent can't remove it fast enough.

Edit: New Shaman card, R.I.P. Dust Devil.

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

November 24 2014 18:31 GMT

#70251

It resized itself.

jcarlsoniv

United States27922 Posts

November 24 2014 18:32 GMT

#70252

On November 25 2014 03:30 onlywonderboy wrote:

Show nested quote +

Another new card
+ Show Spoiler +

Seems pretty good.

oh holy balls why

phyvo

United States5635 Posts

November 24 2014 18:32 GMT

#70253

I imagine it will be pretty good in rogue, right? You can conceal + cold blood-> ping with dmg -> sap taunts -> 20 damage to face.

Zess

Adun Toridas!9144 Posts

November 24 2014 18:33 GMT

#70254

Also that card looks imba imba imba for Arena. Basically strictly superior Raptor which is already a solid pick for the 2 slot. Probably comparable/better than Faerie.

Alzadar

Canada5009 Posts

November 24 2014 18:34 GMT

#70255

On November 25 2014 03:32 phyvo wrote:

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I imagine it will be pretty good in rogue, right? You can conceal + cold blood-> ping with dmg -> sap taunts -> 20 damage to face.

It's a Hunter card.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

November 24 2014 18:34 GMT

#70256

On November 25 2014 03:32 phyvo wrote:

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I imagine it will be pretty good in rogue, right? You can conceal + cold blood-> ping with dmg -> sap taunts -> 20 damage to face.

Green Background = Hunter Legendary.

e;fb

Cixah

United States11285 Posts

November 24 2014 18:35 GMT

#70257

On November 25 2014 03:33 Zess wrote:
Also that card looks imba imba imba for Arena. Basically strictly superior Raptor which is already a solid pick for the 2 slot. Probably comparable/better than Faerie.

I'd probably take it over Faerie in shamans because of it yea, but fae is still godlike.