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On November 25 2014 02:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
i don't know how to build a PC and i can tell you it'd likely take me a week to research parts, order them, get replacements when i screw it up ect.
On November 25 2014 02:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
any idiot knows how to take a part out of a box, but learning to cut veggies quickly and accurately takes a bit of time, likewise, its a hell of a lot easier to pick out produce than it is to find PC parts.
This is honestly a hilariously dumb debate to be having because we're comparing a meal, which is a short term consumable good to a computer, which is long term, versatile utility. They are vastly different knowledge sets with vastly different applications. But I still think you're vastly understating the time required for cooking as a whole.
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On November 25 2014 02:44 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 02:18 PrinceXizor wrote:On November 25 2014 01:44 red_ wrote:
But see now you're starting to make the point of why cooking high quality meals vs building a high quality PC is just not a good analogy. I can build a really good machine in very little time, or at least I don't save much time if I buy pre-built. High quality food just doesn't really work that way. I'm not saying go buy tons of 'pre-built' fast food or whatnot, I'm just saying the analogy falls apart for me. It's useless. Most of the time in cooking is waiting. much like building a PC. On November 25 2014 02:09 Seuss wrote:Cooking is pretty daunting for someone who hasn't yet invested time and energy into learning how to do it. Experienced cooks often sell the end results of said efforts without mentioning how long everything will take initially. For a complete dunce or recovering ramen-fueled college student it goes like this. - Receive recipe.
- Go to store to pick up incredients for recipe.
- Spend twice as long or more shopping than any cook would expect. Finding unfamiliar ingredients/cuts of meat is hard.
- Take five times longer to dice/skin/prepare ingredients than recipe expects.
- Trip up over assumptions in the recipe. "Oh, I was supposed to do X first/in parallel/later." happens, a lot.
- Find out your bowls/pans/whatever are too big/small/warped for what you're doing.
- An attempt at baking/frying/boiling/whatever happens.
- Results are not quite right, but edible.
- Total time spent is forever.
- Never again.
Once you've learned the basics and have a few familiar recipes things go far quicker, but that takes time. You're going to be several dozen extended grocery trips and multi-hour cooking misadventures in before the time investment per meal shrinks to a comfortable level. It's ultimately worth it, you can save yourself a ton of money and be healthier by cooking for yourself, but it's like climbing a mountain that starts with a cliff face before tapering off into more reasonable climb. aye, but we were comparing people who know how to build a PC and saying its easy and takes little time to me, who knows how to cook and bake and it doesn't take much time for me. i don't know how to build a PC and i can tell you it'd likely take me a week to research parts, order them, get replacements when i screw it up ect. It entirely depends on what you are preparing(unlike a PC, where it's pretty much always the same). I'm not a master chef or anything, but I'm not a novice to the kitchen either. I prepare a very large % of my meals, and I prepare them in bulk ahead of the time when I can. It's still time consuming. A PC will last you 2-years if you're quick on the upgrade, 4-5 or more if you don't mind falling behind in tech and playing games on low settings as it ages. There's just no comparison to cooking here. Even if you learn to cook, to maintain quality will still take considerable time and effort, whereas learning to build a PC once makes it an extremely streamlined process pretty much every time you do it in the future. I'm probably a kind of outlier here because of how/what I eat, but that's obviously built in to my personal disagreement with your post that started this discussion.
As you said, it depends on what you eat.
I tend to make things like chili, curry, stew, or beans and rice, that I can cook up in huge quantities for almost no effort. These dishes are pretty much just "put the ingredients in the pot, turn the heat on". Takes me 10 minutes of effort for a week worth of food. And apart from chopping vegetables there's nothing to really learn about them. Pretty sure any one of you could make chili in 15 minutes.
When I started making pancakes, on the other hand, it took me about an hour to make the batter. I made them every week, though, and gradually got the process down to 10 minutes. Practice!
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Idk how I'm feeling about this thread right now.
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On November 25 2014 02:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Idk how I'm feeling about this thread right now.
some day when you move out of your parent's basement you'll understand the annoyance that is cooking.
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On November 25 2014 02:24 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 02:20 Sufficiency wrote:
Sorry. I usually expect people to say "rite of passage" instead of "Hajj", lol. I've never heard anyone use 'hajj' outside of the actual term. zz
I haven't either, but making up expressions adds a lot of colour to one's language.
My favorite one is to say "ask the Queen" or "let the Queen decide" for flipping a coin. Only works for Commonwealth countries though.
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On November 25 2014 03:00 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 02:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Idk how I'm feeling about this thread right now.
some day when you move out of your parent's basement you'll understand the annoyance that is cooking.
There are two reasons I hate cooking:
Doing dishes is fucking terrible.
My kitchen is abysmally small and I have so little counter space that it makes anything a chore to deal with.
Other than that, it's chemistry that I can eat, which is amazing.
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It is pretty hard to become an expert at plugging in PCI-E cards while there is a large skill gap in how well you can julienne some root vegetables, but on the other hand using the wrong variety of tomato won't cause your water to fail to boil.
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I like doing dishes. I don't like: doing my roommates dishes when they leave it in the sink for a week.
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On November 25 2014 03:05 Zess wrote:
It is pretty hard to become an expert at plugging in PCI-E cards while there is a large skill gap in how well you can julienne some root vegetables, but on the other hand using the wrong variety of tomato won't cause your water to fail to boil.
well said
On November 25 2014 03:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
I like doing dishes.
oh, that explains everything, you're satan
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On November 25 2014 03:00 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 02:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Idk how I'm feeling about this thread right now.
some day when you move out of your parent's basement you'll understand the annoyance that is cooking.
I can't hear you over the sound of packaged ramen sitting in boiling water.
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On November 25 2014 03:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 03:00 wei2coolman wrote:On November 25 2014 02:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Idk how I'm feeling about this thread right now.
some day when you move out of your parent's basement you'll understand the annoyance that is cooking. There are two reasons I hate cooking: Doing dishes is fucking terrible. My kitchen is abysmally small and I have so little counter space that it makes anything a chore to deal with. Other than that, it's chemistry that I can eat, which is amazing.
I enjoy cooking and love the results. Dishes suck, but the amount of time is the real downside for me. I'm never thinking "yeah I'd like to stand in my kitchen for 15 minutes to an hour (depending on what's being made) rather than just doing something fast like a frozen meal or something in a box". Which is one of the leading causes of me being a fatty mcfat fat.
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On November 25 2014 03:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 03:05 Zess wrote:
It is pretty hard to become an expert at plugging in PCI-E cards while there is a large skill gap in how well you can julienne some root vegetables, but on the other hand using the wrong variety of tomato won't cause your water to fail to boil. well said
On November 25 2014 02:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 02:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
any idiot knows how to take a part out of a box, but learning to cut veggies quickly and accurately takes a bit of time, likewise, its a hell of a lot easier to pick out produce than it is to find PC parts. This is honestly a hilariously dumb debate to be having because we're comparing a meal, which is a short term consumable good to a computer, which is long term, versatile utility. They are vastly different knowledge sets with vastly different applications.
dat bias.
On November 25 2014 03:07 Requizen wrote:
I enjoy cooking and love the results. Dishes suck, but the amount of time is the real downside for me. I'm never thinking "yeah I'd like to stand in my kitchen for 15 minutes to an hour (depending on what's being made) rather than just doing something fast like a frozen meal or something in a box". Which is one of the leading causes of me being a fatty mcfat fat.
I don't know how your home is set up, but you could use the wait time in cooking to paint models yes? often if you cook on lower heat you can afford to stir every minute or so.
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[QUOTE]On November 25 2014 03:08 PrinceXizor wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 25 2014 03:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 25 2014 03:05 Zess wrote:
It is pretty hard to become an expert at plugging in PCI-E cards while there is a large skill gap in how well you can julienne some root vegetables, but on the other hand using the wrong variety of tomato won't cause your water to fail to boil.[/QUOTE]
well said
[QUOTE]On November 25 2014 02:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 25 2014 02:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
any idiot knows how to take a part out of a box, but learning to cut veggies quickly and accurately takes a bit of time, likewise, its a hell of a lot easier to pick out produce than it is to find PC parts.[/QUOTE]
This is honestly a hilariously dumb debate to be having because we're comparing a meal, which is a short term consumable good to a computer, which is long term, versatile utility. They are vastly different knowledge sets with vastly different applications. [/QUOTE]
dat bias.[/QUOTE]
Quoting this before PX fixes it in his edits. Everyone must know.
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I like how the fucked up formatting in his post infected your post.
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On November 25 2014 03:08 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Quoting this before PX fixes it in his edits. Everyone must know.
i copy pasted overtop of the bracketed /quote.
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On November 25 2014 03:08 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 03:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 25 2014 03:05 Zess wrote:
It is pretty hard to become an expert at plugging in PCI-E cards while there is a large skill gap in how well you can julienne some root vegetables, but on the other hand using the wrong variety of tomato won't cause your water to fail to boil. well said Show nested quote +On November 25 2014 02:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 25 2014 02:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
any idiot knows how to take a part out of a box, but learning to cut veggies quickly and accurately takes a bit of time, likewise, its a hell of a lot easier to pick out produce than it is to find PC parts. This is honestly a hilariously dumb debate to be having because we're comparing a meal, which is a short term consumable good to a computer, which is long term, versatile utility. They are vastly different knowledge sets with vastly different applications. dat bias.
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He made a succinct post that sums up basically what our entire debate boiled (heh) down to. That doesn't make the debate any less retarded.
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On November 25 2014 03:14 Alaric wrote:
Guys. How about CostCo?
Have you even been in one?
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I have very split opinions on building your own PC. On one hand I learned a lot about computers and it saved me a lot of money, but on the other hand I ended up having to deal with a lot of bullshit where it wouldn't work and in the end it just happened to be a faulty part that I had no way of knowing how to fix aside from replacing it part by part. If the potential stress of the computer not working after you put it together is what really turns you off to building your own PC I say just save yourself the trouble and buy a pre-built one. Otherwise, if you don't want to build it because you just think it's too hard, I say just do it. I mean I pretty much just watched a Youtube video to figure out most of it. Putting it together isn't the hard part.
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