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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 11 2014 02:21 GMT
#67961
On November 11 2014 11:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 10:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Wave: just give them some time to xpac before you compare it to MTG. How many xpacs has Magic gotten by now?

Yeah as I said that's true, but I just haven't liked how HS has been shoved down our throats as the next big ESPORT when it REALLY doesn't feel that way to me.

It feels like a bunch of people with big fake smiles on and big fake hype trying to feed something to the public. It just feels so completely forced.

The game is fun, it just doesn't scream ESPORTS to me.


Just get ready for the Heroes of the Storm tidal wave to hit. You'll be begging for your #HSESPORTS back.

Ugh.
That one too.
I honestly couldn't tell if that LR spam in OT on the weekend was real hype or sarcastic hype or some unholy mix of both.


+ Show Spoiler +
Part 5 whar
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 11 2014 02:21 GMT
#67962
On November 11 2014 11:08 sung_moon wrote:
LOL SPROLES

o/
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 11 2014 02:23 GMT
#67963
It involved making fun of Zuna's positioning and Idra maybe finally getting to win something. Totally serious in all obviousness.

As for the whole "forced" thing, isn't the whole "ESPORTS" shtick this to begin with?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
November 11 2014 02:33 GMT
#67964
TCGs always have heavy RNG. Once you get up to decent level of it very heavy on the RNG and metagaming. A lot of esports are metagaming but there is a bigger gap in say Doto and SC than there is in HS/MtG.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-11 02:34:30
November 11 2014 02:34 GMT
#67965
On November 11 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 11:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 10:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Wave: just give them some time to xpac before you compare it to MTG. How many xpacs has Magic gotten by now?

Yeah as I said that's true, but I just haven't liked how HS has been shoved down our throats as the next big ESPORT when it REALLY doesn't feel that way to me.

It feels like a bunch of people with big fake smiles on and big fake hype trying to feed something to the public. It just feels so completely forced.

The game is fun, it just doesn't scream ESPORTS to me.


Just get ready for the Heroes of the Storm tidal wave to hit. You'll be begging for your #HSESPORTS back.

Ugh.
That one too.
I honestly couldn't tell if that LR spam in OT on the weekend was real hype or sarcastic hype or some unholy mix of both.


+ Show Spoiler +
Part 5 whar


+ Show Spoiler [Part 5] +

will be ready when I say it's ready you jerks.

WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
November 11 2014 02:40 GMT
#67966
Hmm, I might stream tomorrow night for a few hours, it'll be Unity though

Viva la Revolution and all that
Steam: rook492
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 11 2014 02:47 GMT
#67967
Stream up for the night.
www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow

Maybe I'll do some HS arena alongside the usual. We see.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 11 2014 02:51 GMT
#67968
On November 11 2014 11:34 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 10:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Wave: just give them some time to xpac before you compare it to MTG. How many xpacs has Magic gotten by now?

Yeah as I said that's true, but I just haven't liked how HS has been shoved down our throats as the next big ESPORT when it REALLY doesn't feel that way to me.

It feels like a bunch of people with big fake smiles on and big fake hype trying to feed something to the public. It just feels so completely forced.

The game is fun, it just doesn't scream ESPORTS to me.


Just get ready for the Heroes of the Storm tidal wave to hit. You'll be begging for your #HSESPORTS back.

Ugh.
That one too.
I honestly couldn't tell if that LR spam in OT on the weekend was real hype or sarcastic hype or some unholy mix of both.


+ Show Spoiler +
Part 5 whar


+ Show Spoiler [Part 5] +

will be ready when I say it's ready you jerks.


temp
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 11 2014 02:56 GMT
#67969
On November 11 2014 11:51 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 11:34 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 10:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Wave: just give them some time to xpac before you compare it to MTG. How many xpacs has Magic gotten by now?

Yeah as I said that's true, but I just haven't liked how HS has been shoved down our throats as the next big ESPORT when it REALLY doesn't feel that way to me.

It feels like a bunch of people with big fake smiles on and big fake hype trying to feed something to the public. It just feels so completely forced.

The game is fun, it just doesn't scream ESPORTS to me.


Just get ready for the Heroes of the Storm tidal wave to hit. You'll be begging for your #HSESPORTS back.

Ugh.
That one too.
I honestly couldn't tell if that LR spam in OT on the weekend was real hype or sarcastic hype or some unholy mix of both.


+ Show Spoiler +
Part 5 whar


+ Show Spoiler [Part 5] +

will be ready when I say it's ready you jerks.


temp


Looks like someone was baited and outsmarted.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-11 03:03:43
November 11 2014 03:02 GMT
#67970
On November 11 2014 11:21 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 10:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Wave: just give them some time to xpac before you compare it to MTG. How many xpacs has Magic gotten by now?

Yeah as I said that's true, but I just haven't liked how HS has been shoved down our throats as the next big ESPORT when it REALLY doesn't feel that way to me.

It feels like a bunch of people with big fake smiles on and big fake hype trying to feed something to the public. It just feels so completely forced.

The game is fun, it just doesn't scream ESPORTS to me.


Does it have to happen organically? League ESPORTS got forced and it did well...


League didn't get forced. Its growth was helped with outside pressure, but the game had a competitive scene growing well before Riot took the reigns and dumped money into it and bought its way into LAN events. In fact, I'd argue Riot only did that because they saw the potential of the competitive scene that was growing, and probably wanted to have full control over it for the future(which they wouldn't have if it grew organically to start).

There was more stuff I wanted to reply to today but I forgot after making this post.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 11 2014 03:07 GMT
#67971
The reason why league grew, was because of the f2p-model. First of its kind for the genre and back when it was a new game, a lot of the popular games costed $$$$$

It's way easier to convince your mates to just create an account and download the game, than it is to tell them to go out and spend 40-80$ for a video game, before they can play with you.
hi
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 11 2014 03:12 GMT
#67972
On November 11 2014 11:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 11:51 Gahlo wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:34 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 10:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Wave: just give them some time to xpac before you compare it to MTG. How many xpacs has Magic gotten by now?

Yeah as I said that's true, but I just haven't liked how HS has been shoved down our throats as the next big ESPORT when it REALLY doesn't feel that way to me.

It feels like a bunch of people with big fake smiles on and big fake hype trying to feed something to the public. It just feels so completely forced.

The game is fun, it just doesn't scream ESPORTS to me.


Just get ready for the Heroes of the Storm tidal wave to hit. You'll be begging for your #HSESPORTS back.

Ugh.
That one too.
I honestly couldn't tell if that LR spam in OT on the weekend was real hype or sarcastic hype or some unholy mix of both.


+ Show Spoiler +
Part 5 whar


+ Show Spoiler [Part 5] +

will be ready when I say it's ready you jerks.


temp


Looks like someone was baited and outsmarted.

Miss 100% of the parts you don't try to read.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 11 2014 03:13 GMT
#67973
Short stream, passing out
Somebody take ovar
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
November 11 2014 03:21 GMT
#67974
On November 11 2014 12:02 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 11:21 Zdrastochye wrote:
On November 11 2014 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 11 2014 10:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Wave: just give them some time to xpac before you compare it to MTG. How many xpacs has Magic gotten by now?

Yeah as I said that's true, but I just haven't liked how HS has been shoved down our throats as the next big ESPORT when it REALLY doesn't feel that way to me.

It feels like a bunch of people with big fake smiles on and big fake hype trying to feed something to the public. It just feels so completely forced.

The game is fun, it just doesn't scream ESPORTS to me.


Does it have to happen organically? League ESPORTS got forced and it did well...


League didn't get forced. Its growth was helped with outside pressure, but the game had a competitive scene growing well before Riot took the reigns and dumped money into it and bought its way into LAN events. In fact, I'd argue Riot only did that because they saw the potential of the competitive scene that was growing, and probably wanted to have full control over it for the future(which they wouldn't have if it grew organically to start).

There was more stuff I wanted to reply to today but I forgot after making this post.


I agree with this a lot. I know Riot were smart and jumped on the Esports train as soon as they saw that their game could have made it, but I'm pretty sure the scene would still be around even without Riot's support. I mean I won't deny that Riot does help a lot in the way they have, but I do kinda get tired of people pretending Riot's funding is the only reason it's around.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 11 2014 03:30 GMT
#67975
In my mind, Blizzard's biggest failing with competitive Hearthstone is their continued refusal to develop a competitive Limited format.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
November 11 2014 03:35 GMT
#67976
On November 11 2014 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Short stream, passing out
Somebody take ovar

I can try but tired and no facecam

also probably HS.

Just got home nyeh traffic jam
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 11 2014 03:42 GMT
#67977
On November 11 2014 12:30 TheYango wrote:
In my mind, Blizzard's biggest failing with competitive Hearthstone is their continued refusal to develop a competitive Limited format.

Do they have a spectator client now for competitive? Because if they don't, I'd say it's that.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 11 2014 03:42 GMT
#67978
Fucking shit

sitting at my computer physically crying because of TWD Season 2 (game)
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 11 2014 03:48 GMT
#67979
On November 11 2014 12:30 TheYango wrote:
In my mind, Blizzard's biggest failing with competitive Hearthstone is their continued refusal to develop a competitive Limited format.

I feel like they need more card variety before competitive limited would work I feel.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 11 2014 03:51 GMT
#67980
I don't know much about Hearthstone, but I'm pretty sure Sylvanas is the greatest failing I saw at Blizzcon, followed by Brawl.
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