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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
At this rate hearthstone going to be official covered game by TL before LoL. On October 17 2013 05:25 AsmodeusXI wrote: They are bigots. Usually people who are are bigots by ignorance. Participating in a flawed society that perpetuates bigotry makes you a bigot. If you aren't part of the solution you're part of the problem. That's rather binary. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On October 16 2013 22:05 AsnSensation wrote: Day off from school and caught Pokemon anime for the first time in 5 or 6 years on TV and was wondering why after so many seasons Team Rocket's Boss ( Giovanni?) still hasn't fired Jesse & james since it seems like they never actually managed to catch a single pokemon in all those years. Random thoughts for the win. They did actually successfully carry out several missions though and they've also saved their boss before. Also, Jessie's mom was a super high ranking Rocket member who was one of Giovanni's favourites. Also updated the OP with a few Friend Codes. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:25 AsmodeusXI wrote: They are bigots. Usually people who are are bigots by ignorance. Participating in a flawed society that perpetuates bigotry makes you a bigot. If you aren't part of the solution you're part of the problem. thats absurd what are you doing to make the society better i dont see how advertising for extreme minorities makes society better "If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem" is also a dumb statement. Sure it would help if everyone were on board, but if people weren't racist/sexist/corrupt etc then we wouldn't need to do anything at all to be not bigots. So your definition of bigots is extended to how many bigots you know and aren't trying to do anything about. Also as if bigotry is even close to one of the biggest problems (hunger and disease rank far higher than slight discrimination, white man problems..) | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:39 Slayer91 wrote: thats absurd what are you doing to make the society better i dont see how advertising for extreme minorities makes society better I'm refusing to accept a flawed binary of men and women or language that supports it. It's not much, but it's a start. Inclusion makes society better. On October 17 2013 05:36 wei2coolman wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432463 At this rate hearthstone going to be official covered game by TL before LoL. That's rather binary. TOUCHE SIR. I guess I proved that Teut is right about binary classifications then. Just not about men/women as one. On October 17 2013 05:39 Slayer91 wrote: "If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem" is also a dumb statement. Sure it would help if everyone were on board, but if people weren't racist/sexist/corrupt etc then we wouldn't need to do anything at all to be not bigots. So your definition of bigots is extended to how many bigots you know and aren't trying to do anything about. Also as if bigotry is even close to one of the biggest problems (hunger and disease rank far higher than slight discrimination, white man problems..) Diminishing one problem because there are bigger problems is just avoiding a problem. There's no reason we can't fix bigotry and hunger and disease. Also, there are people trying on hunger and disease but far fewer people are trying (or donating money or anything else) to fix bigotry. I don't know what anything before the problems statement means. Literally I can't figure it out. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:42 Slayer91 wrote: Teamliquid is a very exclusive society of people. Do you think it would be better if we merged with reddit? Every website should merge with reddit, let reddit become not just the front page but the internet itself. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:42 Slayer91 wrote: Teamliquid is a very exclusive society of people. Do you think it would be better if we merged with reddit? I want TeamLiquid to get featured so that more people come here often for LoL news. I don't want TL to be Reddit, but having Redditors come here for quality LoL stuff is exactly what I want. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:45 AsmodeusXI wrote: I want TeamLiquid to get featured so that more people come here often for LoL news. I don't want TL to be Reddit, but having Redditors come here for quality LoL stuff is exactly what I want. That's like making a seperate toilet for black people in restaurants. "sure you can eat here, but you must not go on my white people toilet" | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:41 AsmodeusXI wrote: I'm refusing to accept a flawed binary of men and women or language that supports it. It's not much, but it's a start. Inclusion makes society better. TOUCHE SIR. I guess I proved that Teut is right about binary classifications then. Just not about men/women as one. Diminishing one problem because there are bigger problems is just avoiding a problem. There's no reason we can't fix bigotry and hunger and disease. Also, there are people trying on hunger and disease but far fewer people are trying (or donating money or anything else) to fix bigotry. I don't know what anything before the problems statement means. Literally I can't figure it out. no its not avoiding the problem, its prioritizing. There's no reason we can't fix everything. Except people are too selfish. Which means whateve charity we have should be focused on people starving to death and children dying of disease as opposed to someones feelings being hurt because they different. I suggest you re-read for the first part of the post. 1: A = Problem People. B=Bystanders. C=AsmodeusIX By your definition A, and B are both bigots. If A disappears because people become more educated etc etc, there is no problem, but B still hasn't done anything --> they are still bigots, but there is no problem. So your definition doesn't make sense. On October 17 2013 05:45 AsmodeusXI wrote: I want TeamLiquid to get featured so that more people come here often for LoL news. I don't want TL to be Reddit, but having Redditors come here for quality LoL stuff is exactly what I want. Teamliquid excludes lots of people who don't post the way other people post. People who like to post one liners and such will get banned. Is that bad? Reddit is the definition of all-inclusive. Perfect democracy. Not the most intelligent of places, though. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:47 Dandel Ion wrote: That's like making a seperate toilet for black people in restaurants. "sure you can eat here, but you must not go on my white people toilet" lol nope Slayer91 wrote: no its not avoiding the problem, its prioritizing. There's no reason we can't fix everything. Except people are too selfish. Which means whateve charity we have should be focused on people starving to death and children dying of disease as opposed to someones feelings being hurt because they different. I suggest you re-read for the first part of the post. 1: A = Problem People. B=Bystanders. C=AsmodeusIX By your definition A, and B are both bigots. If A disappears because people become more educated etc etc, there is no problem, but B still hasn't done anything --> they are still bigots, but there is no problem. So your definition doesn't make sense. There's no reason why you can't try to fix both hunger, disease, and bigotry. You can always do a little bit to make things better. Okay I see what you mean. The issue is you're leaving out the context. We live in a society with A, B, and C and that society supports the problematic and flawed rules made by A. Thus if B are bystanding, they are not fixing the problem. If A doesn't exist, then their rules don't exist, and it's not a problem. But that context does exist. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:36 wei2coolman wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432463 At this rate hearthstone going to be official covered game by TL before LoL. It is Blizzard IP after all. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:47 Dandel Ion wrote: That's like making a seperate toilet for black people in restaurants. "sure you can eat here, but you must not go on my white people toilet" That's not it at all. They're two different entities. Reddit is a good place for news, fanart, videos, AMAs, and things of that nature. It's fantastic if you're just looking to get caught up on what's going on in the community. It is, however, not the best place for constructive conversation. The lack of Moderation is also appallingly apparent. On the other hand, TL is great for conversation, theorycrafting, ideas, and things like the TL Writeups. While news can be posted here, because it's a general forum it often gets buried within a page or two unless you make a new thread, and some news doesn't exactly warrant that. More people should use both. And should use S@20 or RoG as well for datamining and the like. People should use every tool available while knowing the rules for all of them, that meme spamming doesn't belong on TL (outside of this thread, ofc), while intelligent discussion does not take place on Reddit. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
I'm refusing to accept a flawed binary of men and women or language that supports it. It's not much, but it's a start." lol, what does that mean. it's easy to say that. there are people in poverty and here you are trying to get people to stop saying men/women? The vast majority of people are proud of their gender and wouldn't want to be identified as a gender neutral person. People just need to be educated to understand about the few who don't. Trying to get everyone to conform to some bland standard is never going to happen and certainly not objectively righteous. That's not to say people are only proud of being men if they work a job and beat their wife. Traditional gender roles and gender not existing are also 2 different things. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:56 Slayer91 wrote: " I'm refusing to accept a flawed binary of men and women or language that supports it. It's not much, but it's a start." lol, what does that mean. it's easy to say that. there are people in poverty and here you are trying to get people to stop saying men/women? The vast majority of people are proud of their gender and wouldn't want to be identified as a gender neutral person. People just need to be educated to understand about the few who don't. Trying to get everyone to conform to some bland standard is never going to happen and certainly not objectively righteous. It means that when someone says there are only men and women, I start or join the conversation. It generates awareness, which is the first step to fixing the problem of people only perceiving that two exist. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:56 Slayer91 wrote: " I'm refusing to accept a flawed binary of men and women or language that supports it. It's not much, but it's a start." lol, what does that mean. it's easy to say that. there are people in poverty and here you are trying to get people to stop saying men/women? The vast majority of people are proud of their gender and wouldn't want to be identified as a gender neutral person. People just need to be educated to understand about the few who don't. Trying to get everyone to conform to some bland standard is never going to happen and certainly not objectively righteous. Its obvious you don't know what that means by the rest of your post... he didn't say anything about stopping using the words man and woman if i'm not mistaken. Nor did he ask people to conform to some standard... its like your shadow debating. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
my binary was only for a mathematical purpose by the way, but ill see what you guys have to say since you've been trying so hard to say it | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:59 Slayer91 wrote: define your third gender my binary was only for a mathematical purpose by the way, but ill see what you guys have to say since you've been trying so hard to say it http://www.who.int/gender/whatisgender/en/ so anyone who doesn't do what the tv tells them they should because of whats between their legs | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 17 2013 05:59 Slayer91 wrote: define your third gender my binary was only for a mathematical purpose by the way, but ill see what you guys have to say since you've been trying so hard to say it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality Coma's is better most likely. If you want to continue this conversation we can PM or TS or something. I'm sure most of OT would like us to shut up. | ||
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