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On September 19 2014 04:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 03:13 nafta wrote:On September 19 2014 02:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 19 2014 02:23 Scip wrote:
It's also really easy not to get angry at videogames if you really care about it. To me it just seems like people don't really try enough and go all "ohh but getting angry is natural hurr" so then their mentality sucks and then they end up thinking that "politely asking your teammates if they are retarded" is fine and just end up being social rejects instead of actually learning from the experience of playing with other people. This is still falling into "how you react when you feel anger" rather than just not feeling anger. On September 19 2014 02:40 Scip wrote:
Have you ever seen a person who plays better when he is frustrated/angry
I have yet to see one Personal experience from gymnastics: I specialized on Pommel Horse. Pommels is widely considered the most technically difficult even in men's gymnastics - it's basically the balance beam of guys' events. You have to have pinpoint precision every time you swing a particular skill, and having to weave that into an entire routine is difficult. It is incredibly easy to get mad on this event, which makes this pinpoint precision much harder to achieve. It took many, many years before I was able to control my frustration/anger/adrenaline enough to be consistent at the event. My other specialty was Floor. This event is a completely different dynamic - a floor routine takes the longest of any event, and requires stamina and power. Getting angry could be channeled into power, and the adrenaline helps push through the stamina, utilizing the anger much the same as a fighter would in the ring. Let's treat video games more as the pommel horse (a stretch, to be sure, but close enough in the "technical" aspect that we can draw some lines). Getting angry in loss at a video game is common and not surprising. However, it's how you manage that anger - you take a deep breath; you focus; you come out swinging hard and precise. Your example isn't someone playing better while angry but someone getting angry>motivated>trying to calm down. Hmmm...maybe. But it's not like the anger goes away - you learn how to manage it and use it to your advantage, which was really my whole point from the start. @scip - I find it hilarious that you tell people to be tryhard, but also chastise them for getting angry. Is it possible to care so little that you never get angry, yet still be tryhard? Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 19 2014 04:01 xes wrote:On September 19 2014 03:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
This award came after #1 chinese tryhard LoL fanboy award for Professor Auswahlaxiom I don't think I qualify for that one since I already got the ChingChong Award for Most Chinaman. God damn sitting waiting on a patient trying to stifle laughter. Also this may be the 3rd or 4th time I've managed to unwittingly start a toxic conversation in OT without participating. I should start keeping track. ##vote WaveofShadowclearly scum - start shit in the thread and disappears to let it fester
Getting angry is anti-tryhard, since you're putting your petty emotions over your desire to win. It's why I don't understand people who rage at teammates while claiming they want to win - don't they understand that every word they type makes victory less likely?
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Getting angry != shit talking teammates.
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On September 19 2014 04:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 03:13 nafta wrote:On September 19 2014 02:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 19 2014 02:23 Scip wrote:
It's also really easy not to get angry at videogames if you really care about it. To me it just seems like people don't really try enough and go all "ohh but getting angry is natural hurr" so then their mentality sucks and then they end up thinking that "politely asking your teammates if they are retarded" is fine and just end up being social rejects instead of actually learning from the experience of playing with other people. This is still falling into "how you react when you feel anger" rather than just not feeling anger. On September 19 2014 02:40 Scip wrote:
Have you ever seen a person who plays better when he is frustrated/angry
I have yet to see one Personal experience from gymnastics: I specialized on Pommel Horse. Pommels is widely considered the most technically difficult even in men's gymnastics - it's basically the balance beam of guys' events. You have to have pinpoint precision every time you swing a particular skill, and having to weave that into an entire routine is difficult. It is incredibly easy to get mad on this event, which makes this pinpoint precision much harder to achieve. It took many, many years before I was able to control my frustration/anger/adrenaline enough to be consistent at the event. My other specialty was Floor. This event is a completely different dynamic - a floor routine takes the longest of any event, and requires stamina and power. Getting angry could be channeled into power, and the adrenaline helps push through the stamina, utilizing the anger much the same as a fighter would in the ring. Let's treat video games more as the pommel horse (a stretch, to be sure, but close enough in the "technical" aspect that we can draw some lines). Getting angry in loss at a video game is common and not surprising. However, it's how you manage that anger - you take a deep breath; you focus; you come out swinging hard and precise. Your example isn't someone playing better while angry but someone getting angry>motivated>trying to calm down. Hmmm...maybe. But it's not like the anger goes away - you learn how to manage it and use it to your advantage, which was really my whole point from the start. @scip - I find it hilarious that you tell people to be tryhard, but also chastise them for getting angry. Is it possible to care so little that you never get angry, yet still be tryhard?
It is because I care so much that I never get angry. I swear to my nipples I explained that specifically to you several times.
LOL Alzadar "petty emotions" is the expression I used to use when explaining that too. hahahaha
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On September 19 2014 04:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Getting angry != shit talking teammates.
^
Why does being angry have to default to raging at teammates Alzadar? You can be angry at your opponents for outplaying you, maybe being a bit cheeky. You can be angry at yourself for not reading that juke and dying because of it.
If you care so little that you never get angry while playing a game, then it's not possible for you to care enough to be classified as tryhard.
edit: You're right scip, my apologies, you did explain it. I misread this post.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 19 2014 02:58 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 02:54 wei2coolman wrote:On September 19 2014 02:47 Scip wrote:
how about continuing to play despite the losing streak, without anger and without pain. Again, different threshold for different people. Some times people focus more when they're angry. You're pretty much arguing that 100% of people are exactly the same in that they will always play better without emotions, when in reality there's a huge spectrum of people who have a variety of performance differences based on their emotional state. Pretty much. Can anyone here say that they play LoL better when angry? Also arguing that it's not particularly hard to not get frustrated or angry and that it's mostly just for lack of trying.
Not saying I agree, but I concede that you did say it.
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Also in the FGA scene, "getting angry" is usually a call that a player is going to play 100% serious.
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On September 19 2014 04:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 03:13 nafta wrote:On September 19 2014 02:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 19 2014 02:23 Scip wrote:
It's also really easy not to get angry at videogames if you really care about it. To me it just seems like people don't really try enough and go all "ohh but getting angry is natural hurr" so then their mentality sucks and then they end up thinking that "politely asking your teammates if they are retarded" is fine and just end up being social rejects instead of actually learning from the experience of playing with other people. This is still falling into "how you react when you feel anger" rather than just not feeling anger. On September 19 2014 02:40 Scip wrote:
Have you ever seen a person who plays better when he is frustrated/angry
I have yet to see one Personal experience from gymnastics: I specialized on Pommel Horse. Pommels is widely considered the most technically difficult even in men's gymnastics - it's basically the balance beam of guys' events. You have to have pinpoint precision every time you swing a particular skill, and having to weave that into an entire routine is difficult. It is incredibly easy to get mad on this event, which makes this pinpoint precision much harder to achieve. It took many, many years before I was able to control my frustration/anger/adrenaline enough to be consistent at the event. My other specialty was Floor. This event is a completely different dynamic - a floor routine takes the longest of any event, and requires stamina and power. Getting angry could be channeled into power, and the adrenaline helps push through the stamina, utilizing the anger much the same as a fighter would in the ring. Let's treat video games more as the pommel horse (a stretch, to be sure, but close enough in the "technical" aspect that we can draw some lines). Getting angry in loss at a video game is common and not surprising. However, it's how you manage that anger - you take a deep breath; you focus; you come out swinging hard and precise. Your example isn't someone playing better while angry but someone getting angry>motivated>trying to calm down. Hmmm...maybe. But it's not like the anger goes away - you learn how to manage it and use it to your advantage, which was really my whole point from the start. @scip - I find it hilarious that you tell people to be tryhard, but also chastise them for getting angry. Is it possible to care so little that you never get angry, yet still be tryhard? Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 19 2014 04:01 xes wrote:On September 19 2014 03:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
This award came after #1 chinese tryhard LoL fanboy award for Professor Auswahlaxiom I don't think I qualify for that one since I already got the ChingChong Award for Most Chinaman. God damn sitting waiting on a patient trying to stifle laughter. Also this may be the 3rd or 4th time I've managed to unwittingly start a toxic conversation in OT without participating. I should start keeping track. ##vote WaveofShadowclearly scum - start shit in the thread and disappears to let it fester
Mafia reference +1 TL internet point.
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I was worried that might be misunderstood. I'm not saying raging <-> angry, but I think it's fair to say that raging -> angry.
Raging is one aspect of being angry (the most obvious one to 3rd parties).
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Do we really want to use a source called The Angry, The Rapist?
On September 19 2014 04:15 KissBlade wrote:
Also in the FGA scene, "getting angry" is usually a call that a player is going to play 100% serious.
Back in the day it was also a call that you better run to your car, otherwise you would end up on the ground in the parking lot.
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On September 19 2014 04:17 kainzero wrote:Do we really want to use a source called The Angry, The Rapist? Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 04:15 KissBlade wrote:
Also in the FGA scene, "getting angry" is usually a call that a player is going to play 100% serious. Back in the day it was also a call that you better run to your car, otherwise you would end up on the ground in the parking lot.
People should stop being scummy Guile players. Just sayin'
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On September 19 2014 04:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 04:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Getting angry != shit talking teammates. ^ Why does being angry have to default to raging at teammates Alzadar? You can be angry at your opponents for outplaying you, maybe being a bit cheeky. You can be angry at yourself for not reading that juke and dying because of it. If you care so little that you never get angry while playing a game, then it's not possible for you to care enough to be classified as tryhard. edit: You're right scip, my apologies, you did explain it. I misread this post. + Show Spoiler +On September 19 2014 02:58 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 02:54 wei2coolman wrote:On September 19 2014 02:47 Scip wrote:
how about continuing to play despite the losing streak, without anger and without pain. Again, different threshold for different people. Some times people focus more when they're angry. You're pretty much arguing that 100% of people are exactly the same in that they will always play better without emotions, when in reality there's a huge spectrum of people who have a variety of performance differences based on their emotional state. Pretty much. Can anyone here say that they play LoL better when angry? Also arguing that it's not particularly hard to not get frustrated or angry and that it's mostly just for lack of trying. Not saying I agree, but I concede that you did say it.
Not saying that you agree with what? That it is possible (or preferable?) not to get angry when your #1 priority is winning?
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On September 19 2014 04:16 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 04:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 19 2014 03:13 nafta wrote:On September 19 2014 02:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 19 2014 02:23 Scip wrote:
It's also really easy not to get angry at videogames if you really care about it. To me it just seems like people don't really try enough and go all "ohh but getting angry is natural hurr" so then their mentality sucks and then they end up thinking that "politely asking your teammates if they are retarded" is fine and just end up being social rejects instead of actually learning from the experience of playing with other people. This is still falling into "how you react when you feel anger" rather than just not feeling anger. On September 19 2014 02:40 Scip wrote:
Have you ever seen a person who plays better when he is frustrated/angry
I have yet to see one Personal experience from gymnastics: I specialized on Pommel Horse. Pommels is widely considered the most technically difficult even in men's gymnastics - it's basically the balance beam of guys' events. You have to have pinpoint precision every time you swing a particular skill, and having to weave that into an entire routine is difficult. It is incredibly easy to get mad on this event, which makes this pinpoint precision much harder to achieve. It took many, many years before I was able to control my frustration/anger/adrenaline enough to be consistent at the event. My other specialty was Floor. This event is a completely different dynamic - a floor routine takes the longest of any event, and requires stamina and power. Getting angry could be channeled into power, and the adrenaline helps push through the stamina, utilizing the anger much the same as a fighter would in the ring. Let's treat video games more as the pommel horse (a stretch, to be sure, but close enough in the "technical" aspect that we can draw some lines). Getting angry in loss at a video game is common and not surprising. However, it's how you manage that anger - you take a deep breath; you focus; you come out swinging hard and precise. Your example isn't someone playing better while angry but someone getting angry>motivated>trying to calm down. Hmmm...maybe. But it's not like the anger goes away - you learn how to manage it and use it to your advantage, which was really my whole point from the start. @scip - I find it hilarious that you tell people to be tryhard, but also chastise them for getting angry. Is it possible to care so little that you never get angry, yet still be tryhard? On September 19 2014 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 19 2014 04:01 xes wrote:On September 19 2014 03:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
This award came after #1 chinese tryhard LoL fanboy award for Professor Auswahlaxiom I don't think I qualify for that one since I already got the ChingChong Award for Most Chinaman. God damn sitting waiting on a patient trying to stifle laughter. Also this may be the 3rd or 4th time I've managed to unwittingly start a toxic conversation in OT without participating. I should start keeping track. ##vote WaveofShadowclearly scum - start shit in the thread and disappears to let it fester Mafia reference +1 TL internet point.
It's also a classic scumtell. zzzz now I really wanna play mafia
On September 19 2014 04:16 Alzadar wrote:
I was worried that might be misunderstood. I'm not saying raging <-> angry, but I think it's fair to say that raging -> angry.
Raging is one aspect of being angry (the most obvious one to 3rd parties).
agreed
On September 19 2014 04:18 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 04:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 19 2014 04:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Getting angry != shit talking teammates. ^ Why does being angry have to default to raging at teammates Alzadar? You can be angry at your opponents for outplaying you, maybe being a bit cheeky. You can be angry at yourself for not reading that juke and dying because of it. If you care so little that you never get angry while playing a game, then it's not possible for you to care enough to be classified as tryhard. edit: You're right scip, my apologies, you did explain it. I misread this post. + Show Spoiler +On September 19 2014 02:58 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 02:54 wei2coolman wrote:On September 19 2014 02:47 Scip wrote:
how about continuing to play despite the losing streak, without anger and without pain. Again, different threshold for different people. Some times people focus more when they're angry. You're pretty much arguing that 100% of people are exactly the same in that they will always play better without emotions, when in reality there's a huge spectrum of people who have a variety of performance differences based on their emotional state. Pretty much. Can anyone here say that they play LoL better when angry? Also arguing that it's not particularly hard to not get frustrated or angry and that it's mostly just for lack of trying. Not saying I agree, but I concede that you did say it. Not saying that you agree with what? That it is possible (or preferable?) not to get angry when your #1 priority is winning?
Not saying that I agree with your stance that getting angry is a stupid response
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Is there an online version of Bang?
That game is basically Mafia 2.0
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I also wanna play mafia but pretty time consuming and nobody in OT was interested in an us-only game.
Also only wei2classyman would be the one to compare having a kid to shit and festering.
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On September 19 2014 04:22 xes wrote:
Is there an online version of Bang?
That game is basically Mafia 2.0
There's San guo sha online Xes. Plz do you even Chinese?
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On September 19 2014 04:24 KissBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 04:22 xes wrote:
Is there an online version of Bang?
That game is basically Mafia 2.0 There's San guo sha online Xes. Plz do you even Chinese?
Yea but how do I play that with my american friends 
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Soniv, did you ever in your life have a goatee?
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Soniv is literally Sith, being all about using your anger to become more powerful
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On September 19 2014 04:27 Ketara wrote:
Soniv, did you ever in your life have a goatee?
wat
I am incapable of growing any facial hair that doesn't look scraggly as all hell
On September 19 2014 04:29 Scip wrote:
Soniv is literally Sith, being all about using your anger to become more powerful
Scip "HoliEuro Than Thou" Nekomimi
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On September 19 2014 04:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 04:27 Ketara wrote:
Soniv, did you ever in your life have a goatee? wat I am incapable of growing any facial hair that doesn't look scraggly as all hell
Just like Anakin
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