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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 16 2013 16:40 GMT
#5801
You really want to bring that in here wei?

My point was valid, csheep is being an asshole, and so are you.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 16 2013 16:40 GMT
#5802
I mean I am sure we can agree we can fit people onto a scale that will have a bimodal distribution
from 0 = male and 100 = female, grand majority will be 0 or 100 with some random 33s and troll 69s in there but it's a really bimodal distribution

MBTI has a normal one so it is quite different
I am trying to get this thread back on personality tests hate pls
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Vegetarian Wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
China434 Posts
October 16 2013 16:41 GMT
#5803
Have you guys read The Second Sex by Beauvoir?

Awooo...
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 16 2013 16:43 GMT
#5804
on personality tests as i said in the pm categorizing people according to personality says nothing about yourself, but might be useful to know what the broad category you are in, so you can compare with other people.

In future dating sites might tend to match people with "compatible" personalites. Work might group people together. (don't put the math analytic guys with the sensing guys who think in rainbows of specific emotions). I can't be bothered to think of more right now but it should be pretty obvious that knowing roughly how a person functions is very useful
wheres the sociologists getting angry at everyone saying their entire field is useless
TORTE DI LINI CAN YOU HEAR ME
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 16 2013 16:46 GMT
#5805
When it comes to something important like planning career path or creating workplace groups I'd rather rely on human judgment than some weird imprecise and inaccurate MBTI personality test
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:48:42
October 16 2013 16:47 GMT
#5806
human judgement on people who might barely know you and just know what you wrote on your CV (which is 50% bullshit)?

it doesn't have to be MBTI. The more advanced the test the better. The usefulness of MBTI is probably something sociologists have been arguing for years but there must be some useful ways to abuse knowing that these guys are really observant or these guys make quick decisions or w/e w/e
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:47:50
October 16 2013 16:47 GMT
#5807
Most people on the 100 to 0 scale would probably be <10 or >90, so it doesn't matter and you just round to 0 or 100 for the same of simplicity, which is essentially what we do now.

I have to do a bunch of stuff for consulting interviews, I don't suppose anyone has tips?

WHAT IF TRANSGENDER POKEMANS, LIKE DITTO HOW DOES IT WORK
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:49:55
October 16 2013 16:49 GMT
#5808
If you think that a lot of CV is made up how do you find the audacity to believe people won't tick boxes on the MBTI test that they think will lend them the best job

it's not even fucking verifiable, at least on CV you can't go COMPLETELY mental
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:52:29
October 16 2013 16:51 GMT
#5809
its not specifically about the best job, say you've already hired someone but you don't know what project they'd best be suited for, based on the contents of the projects and the people already working there for example

its a personality test, not a skills test. Therefore there is no "right" or "wrong" answers that would lead people to try to "cheat" unless someone specifically stated that they were going to hire only if you are X personality test (they do this in japan, blood type discriminiation LOL)
Vegetarian Wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
China434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:54:41
October 16 2013 16:52 GMT
#5810
guys pls i want to talk about feminist cultural theory

im sure at least -one- of you read something by greer, cixous, irigaray, gilbert/gubar, or beauvoir, right??

On October 17 2013 01:40 Ketara wrote:
You really want to bring that in here wei?

My point was valid, csheep is being an asshole, and so are you.


can you stop victimizing yourself and realize that you're wrong
Awooo...
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
October 16 2013 16:53 GMT
#5811
You guys realize that these personality tests sound an awful lot like horoscopes, right?

Right?
Stay positive!
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 16 2013 16:55 GMT
#5812
On October 17 2013 01:53 remedium wrote:
You guys realize that these personality tests sound an awful lot like horoscopes, right?

Right?

Yes.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 16 2013 16:55 GMT
#5813
On October 17 2013 01:53 remedium wrote:
You guys realize that these personality tests sound an awful lot like horoscopes, right?

Right?

astrology is the only true science
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:56:34
October 16 2013 16:56 GMT
#5814
Patriarchy doesn't exist, your grandma was happy when your grandad was providing for the entire household, sexy videogame characters are great rolemodels for young girls because most girls really need a can of sex the fk up and women are inferior

any questions
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 17:03:58
October 16 2013 16:56 GMT
#5815
On October 17 2013 01:53 remedium wrote:
You guys realize that these personality tests sound an awful lot like horoscopes, right?

Right?



except its not completely random its based on personal input so yes the Forer effect is going to be widespread if people read about "their type" but it doesnt mean its completely useless, just that you might get bias
anyway, as I said, this information isn't too useful for yourself (but it might be, some things might explain why they act a certain way, but forer effect is dangerous here), its useful statisically. If you group people by IQ it mightn't mean they all have good genetics or are all going to be really smart but you'll probably get better results teaching em physics over the people who scored 40 because their parents never taught them to read or count and their teachers sucked at it

On October 17 2013 01:56 Scip wrote:
Patriarchy doesn't exist, your grandma was happy when your grandad was providing for the entire household, sexy videogame characters are great rolemodels for young girls because most girls really need a can of sex the fk up and women are inferior

any questions


you would like my brother

On October 17 2013 01:52 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
guys pls i want to talk about feminist cultural theory

im sure at least -one- of you read something by greer, cixous, irigaray, gilbert/gubar, or beauvoir, right??

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 01:40 Ketara wrote:
You really want to bring that in here wei?

My point was valid, csheep is being an asshole, and so are you.


can you stop victimizing yourself and realize that you're wrong


so i read a summary of that book you mentioned and tl dr of the tl dr it sucks to be a woman if you're trying to keep up with men because you have to deal with childbirth and maternal instincts and shit which kept our race alive instead of getting really good at running fast or guessing where things in the sky are going to be in 4 years

also interesting thing on the nuturevsnature gender roles, everyone parent ive ever heard talking about it (even that lesbian one on qi lolol) always seem to see it all happening naturally. (+that kid was raised as no-gender and identified as a boy early)
although its pc to believe that genders are all assigned by the evil society id be very interested to read some examples of the converse.
i mean we see for examples tomboys naturally show up even when everyone tries to make them "girlier" they always rebel against it at least when they're younger
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 17:05:56
October 16 2013 17:01 GMT
#5816
On October 17 2013 01:53 remedium wrote:
You guys realize that these personality tests sound an awful lot like horoscopes, right?

Right?

Myers Brigg is not hard science but it's useful in that it provides an abstraction for you to self-reflect on how your like to behave and how that relates with other people.
Vegetarian Wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
China434 Posts
October 16 2013 17:02 GMT
#5817
On October 17 2013 01:56 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 01:53 remedium wrote:
You guys realize that these personality tests sound an awful lot like horoscopes, right?

Right?



except its not completely random its based on personal input so yes the Forer effect is going to be widespread if people read about "their type" but it doesnt mean its completely useless, just that you might get bias
anyway, as I said, this information isn't too useful for yourself (but it might be, some things might explain why they act a certain way, but forer effect is dangerous here), its useful statisically. If you group people by IQ it mightn't mean they all have good genetics or are all going to be really smart but you'll probably get better results teaching em physics over the people who scored 40 because their parents never taught them to read or count and their teachers sucked at it

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 01:56 Scip wrote:
Patriarchy doesn't exist, your grandma was happy when your grandad was providing for the entire household, sexy videogame characters are great rolemodels for young girls because most girls really need a can of sex the fk up and women are inferior

any questions


you would like my brother

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 01:52 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
guys pls i want to talk about feminist cultural theory

im sure at least -one- of you read something by greer, cixous, irigaray, gilbert/gubar, or beauvoir, right??

On October 17 2013 01:40 Ketara wrote:
You really want to bring that in here wei?

My point was valid, csheep is being an asshole, and so are you.


can you stop victimizing yourself and realize that you're wrong


so i read a summary of that book you mentioned and tl dr of the tl dr it sucks to be a woman if you're trying to keep up with men because you have to deal with childbirth and maternal instincts and shit which kept our race alive instead of getting really good at running fast or guessing where things in the sky are going to be in 4 years



i mainly brought up the second sex cause of its most famous line "one is not born, but rather becomes, a woman" which was pretty relevant to the discussion a couple pages back
Awooo...
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 16 2013 17:03 GMT
#5818
I like women.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2013 17:04 GMT
#5819
Ok yeah that one I deserved. Sorry red dudes.

Also wtf did I come back to.
It's your boy Guzma!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 16 2013 17:04 GMT
#5820
Myers Briggs discussions always devolve into pissing matches. Much like US Politics.
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