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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 16 2014 11:59 GMT
#55321
On August 16 2014 17:56 Parnage wrote:
So I've had some interesting interactions with roleplayers as a Pandaren already and they really seem a tad salty..
Now I don't want to get off on a rant here but..
+ Show Spoiler [Rantings] +

Ever sense they put in Pandaren as a race I knew their was going to be a group of people who never played the WC3 campaign, never got to hang out with Chen Stormstout and his awesome quest for perfect booze.
They never touched Frozen Thrones multiplayer, and they don't have an inkling to the pure badass that Brewmasters were for several matchups.
I can understand that, not everyone does research or played the older games and people just figure eh this is due to that Jack Black animated film.

Yet what really galls me is the lore nerds and role-players taking the same stance. They have no damn excuse and yet half the time I get to hear the same convoluted dismissal that it's a cash grab despite the race being asked for by players sense burning crusade. They are a race, as much as the Elves, the Orcs and Tauren. Deal with it.

I really don't give a damn what you think about the idea of anthropomorphized pandas doing martial arts. Maybe instead of ripping off Salvatore for the past twenty years in your character profiles, you could take the realization that this is Warcraft. Not your own little fan-fiction playground where you can ignore parts you don't like just because you think an idea is silly.

You know whatever happened to the enjoyment of new and unusual things and bending fantasy tropes in ways that are considered different from the norm? I have no problem with people who dislike Pandaren in character so long as it's believable. It's a race that generally stuck to itself and while not hostile to anyone it never sided in the major conflicts until now and they went to both factions due to differing ideology. I get that.

What I do have a problem with is people who just shout in caps NO PANDAS BECAUSE THEY ARE SILLY. Good job ignoring your own crazy ass character and race stories because hey it's super serious and Panda's are not cool enough to hang out with my half dragon/half elf step son of Illidan reject.

Step back, get some perspective and maybe get rid of your irrational dislike of whatever's new being bad. Warcraft itself is a subversion of numerous fantasy tropes to a point that now several of those ideas are considered tropes themselves. Maybe you'd understand that if you stopped playing House in Redridge and actually go out on an adventure with some friends you met at the Tavern.

At least we can all agree on the idea that elves have caused all of the worlds(of warcraft) problems.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.





I understand the need for the race in the game, but an entire expansion focused on them with only one raid with a well known character as boss?

When we look at the end-bosses of raids, in Vanilla we have Raggy, Nefarian, Onyxia, Hakkar, C'Thun and Kel'Thuzad. TBC has Kael'Thas, Lady Vashj, Illidan, Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden, Magtheridon/Gruul. Wrath has Kel'Thuzad (lazy rehash yeah), Malygos, Yogg-Saron/Algalon, Anub-Arak, Lich King. Cata has Cho'Gall, Al'Akir, Nefarian, Deathwing and rehash Raggy.

MoP has only Garrosh pretty much.

It could just be that previous expansions have been far too light on Pandaren lore (which I definitely think so, Goblins/Worgen, Draenei/Blood Elf already had some presence in the game).
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 16 2014 12:12 GMT
#55322
On August 16 2014 20:41 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 17:56 Parnage wrote:
So I've had some interesting interactions with roleplayers as a Pandaren already and they really seem a tad salty..
Now I don't want to get off on a rant here but..
+ Show Spoiler [Rantings] +

Ever sense they put in Pandaren as a race I knew their was going to be a group of people who never played the WC3 campaign, never got to hang out with Chen Stormstout and his awesome quest for perfect booze.
They never touched Frozen Thrones multiplayer, and they don't have an inkling to the pure badass that Brewmasters were for several matchups.
I can understand that, not everyone does research or played the older games and people just figure eh this is due to that Jack Black animated film.

Yet what really galls me is the lore nerds and role-players taking the same stance. They have no damn excuse and yet half the time I get to hear the same convoluted dismissal that it's a cash grab despite the race being asked for by players sense burning crusade. They are a race, as much as the Elves, the Orcs and Tauren. Deal with it.

I really don't give a damn what you think about the idea of anthropomorphized pandas doing martial arts. Maybe instead of ripping off Salvatore for the past twenty years in your character profiles, you could take the realization that this is Warcraft. Not your own little fan-fiction playground where you can ignore parts you don't like just because you think an idea is silly.

You know whatever happened to the enjoyment of new and unusual things and bending fantasy tropes in ways that are considered different from the norm? I have no problem with people who dislike Pandaren in character so long as it's believable. It's a race that generally stuck to itself and while not hostile to anyone it never sided in the major conflicts until now and they went to both factions due to differing ideology. I get that.

What I do have a problem with is people who just shout in caps NO PANDAS BECAUSE THEY ARE SILLY. Good job ignoring your own crazy ass character and race stories because hey it's super serious and Panda's are not cool enough to hang out with my half dragon/half elf step son of Illidan reject.

Step back, get some perspective and maybe get rid of your irrational dislike of whatever's new being bad. Warcraft itself is a subversion of numerous fantasy tropes to a point that now several of those ideas are considered tropes themselves. Maybe you'd understand that if you stopped playing House in Redridge and actually go out on an adventure with some friends you met at the Tavern.

At least we can all agree on the idea that elves have caused all of the worlds(of warcraft) problems.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.




That doesn't sound very american of you. Did you forget? Opinions can't be wrong, hurr

Opinions can't be wrong, by definition.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 16 2014 12:12 GMT
#55323
On August 16 2014 21:12 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 20:41 Scip wrote:
On August 16 2014 17:56 Parnage wrote:
So I've had some interesting interactions with roleplayers as a Pandaren already and they really seem a tad salty..
Now I don't want to get off on a rant here but..
+ Show Spoiler [Rantings] +

Ever sense they put in Pandaren as a race I knew their was going to be a group of people who never played the WC3 campaign, never got to hang out with Chen Stormstout and his awesome quest for perfect booze.
They never touched Frozen Thrones multiplayer, and they don't have an inkling to the pure badass that Brewmasters were for several matchups.
I can understand that, not everyone does research or played the older games and people just figure eh this is due to that Jack Black animated film.

Yet what really galls me is the lore nerds and role-players taking the same stance. They have no damn excuse and yet half the time I get to hear the same convoluted dismissal that it's a cash grab despite the race being asked for by players sense burning crusade. They are a race, as much as the Elves, the Orcs and Tauren. Deal with it.

I really don't give a damn what you think about the idea of anthropomorphized pandas doing martial arts. Maybe instead of ripping off Salvatore for the past twenty years in your character profiles, you could take the realization that this is Warcraft. Not your own little fan-fiction playground where you can ignore parts you don't like just because you think an idea is silly.

You know whatever happened to the enjoyment of new and unusual things and bending fantasy tropes in ways that are considered different from the norm? I have no problem with people who dislike Pandaren in character so long as it's believable. It's a race that generally stuck to itself and while not hostile to anyone it never sided in the major conflicts until now and they went to both factions due to differing ideology. I get that.

What I do have a problem with is people who just shout in caps NO PANDAS BECAUSE THEY ARE SILLY. Good job ignoring your own crazy ass character and race stories because hey it's super serious and Panda's are not cool enough to hang out with my half dragon/half elf step son of Illidan reject.

Step back, get some perspective and maybe get rid of your irrational dislike of whatever's new being bad. Warcraft itself is a subversion of numerous fantasy tropes to a point that now several of those ideas are considered tropes themselves. Maybe you'd understand that if you stopped playing House in Redridge and actually go out on an adventure with some friends you met at the Tavern.

At least we can all agree on the idea that elves have caused all of the worlds(of warcraft) problems.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.




That doesn't sound very american of you. Did you forget? Opinions can't be wrong, hurr

Opinions can't be wrong, by definition.


Yeah well, that's just your opinion man
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 16 2014 13:22 GMT
#55324
Actually 3/4 of the reboot movies are out.
And it's not just the end of evangelion that I'd have to watch supposedly, there's also Death/rebirth.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 13:39:24
August 16 2014 13:38 GMT
#55325
The Death is just a rerelease of the series in movie form. While the rebirth is part of End of Evangelion. So don't see why you need to watch those if you going to watch EoE. I completely forgot 3rd movie came out. Depending on what version you watched the "extra" footage will be already in the last few eps.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 16 2014 13:57 GMT
#55326
I'm not watching the one with extra content supposedly.
I'm actually finding I notice the angstiness of the series a little less because there's actually a lot of plot development now. Guess we'll see what the supposed horrible end of the series is.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
August 16 2014 14:04 GMT
#55327
On August 16 2014 18:36 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 18:08 ComaDose wrote:
dat Frudgey disclaimer tho jk

Man I swear one of these days I'm just going to snap and break the image that I'm just the most passive and timid Canadian ever haha!

I'd make Roffles look tame by comparison and everyone knows that Roffles was a beast that couldn't be tamed!


I'm gonna tame you by shutting down your account for 30 days..... Ya bitch
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 16 2014 14:08 GMT
#55328
On August 16 2014 22:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not watching the one with extra content supposedly.
I'm actually finding I notice the angstiness of the series a little less because there's actually a lot of plot development now. Guess we'll see what the supposed horrible end of the series is.


Ah K i'm not actually sure what's added in. Think I watched directors cut when I watched it again a few years back. The ending isn't horrible per say but it's incomplete without the EoE movie. Think the two together make a pretty decent ending.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2014 14:13 GMT
#55329
On August 16 2014 17:56 Parnage wrote:
So I've had some interesting interactions with roleplayers as a Pandaren already and they really seem a tad salty..
Now I don't want to get off on a rant here but..
+ Show Spoiler [Rantings] +

Ever sense they put in Pandaren as a race I knew their was going to be a group of people who never played the WC3 campaign, never got to hang out with Chen Stormstout and his awesome quest for perfect booze.
They never touched Frozen Thrones multiplayer, and they don't have an inkling to the pure badass that Brewmasters were for several matchups.
I can understand that, not everyone does research or played the older games and people just figure eh this is due to that Jack Black animated film.

Yet what really galls me is the lore nerds and role-players taking the same stance. They have no damn excuse and yet half the time I get to hear the same convoluted dismissal that it's a cash grab despite the race being asked for by players sense burning crusade. They are a race, as much as the Elves, the Orcs and Tauren. Deal with it.

I really don't give a damn what you think about the idea of anthropomorphized pandas doing martial arts. Maybe instead of ripping off Salvatore for the past twenty years in your character profiles, you could take the realization that this is Warcraft. Not your own little fan-fiction playground where you can ignore parts you don't like just because you think an idea is silly.

You know whatever happened to the enjoyment of new and unusual things and bending fantasy tropes in ways that are considered different from the norm? I have no problem with people who dislike Pandaren in character so long as it's believable. It's a race that generally stuck to itself and while not hostile to anyone it never sided in the major conflicts until now and they went to both factions due to differing ideology. I get that.

What I do have a problem with is people who just shout in caps NO PANDAS BECAUSE THEY ARE SILLY. Good job ignoring your own crazy ass character and race stories because hey it's super serious and Panda's are not cool enough to hang out with my half dragon/half elf step son of Illidan reject.

Step back, get some perspective and maybe get rid of your irrational dislike of whatever's new being bad. Warcraft itself is a subversion of numerous fantasy tropes to a point that now several of those ideas are considered tropes themselves. Maybe you'd understand that if you stopped playing House in Redridge and actually go out on an adventure with some friends you met at the Tavern.

At least we can all agree on the idea that elves have caused all of the worlds(of warcraft) problems.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.




I've never done RP in WoW, but it's always seemed like an interesting idea. I mean, I like D&D, I like writing, I guess it wouldn't be too big of a leap to RP in a game, you know?
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 16 2014 14:19 GMT
#55330
On August 16 2014 23:13 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 17:56 Parnage wrote:
So I've had some interesting interactions with roleplayers as a Pandaren already and they really seem a tad salty..
Now I don't want to get off on a rant here but..
+ Show Spoiler [Rantings] +

Ever sense they put in Pandaren as a race I knew their was going to be a group of people who never played the WC3 campaign, never got to hang out with Chen Stormstout and his awesome quest for perfect booze.
They never touched Frozen Thrones multiplayer, and they don't have an inkling to the pure badass that Brewmasters were for several matchups.
I can understand that, not everyone does research or played the older games and people just figure eh this is due to that Jack Black animated film.

Yet what really galls me is the lore nerds and role-players taking the same stance. They have no damn excuse and yet half the time I get to hear the same convoluted dismissal that it's a cash grab despite the race being asked for by players sense burning crusade. They are a race, as much as the Elves, the Orcs and Tauren. Deal with it.

I really don't give a damn what you think about the idea of anthropomorphized pandas doing martial arts. Maybe instead of ripping off Salvatore for the past twenty years in your character profiles, you could take the realization that this is Warcraft. Not your own little fan-fiction playground where you can ignore parts you don't like just because you think an idea is silly.

You know whatever happened to the enjoyment of new and unusual things and bending fantasy tropes in ways that are considered different from the norm? I have no problem with people who dislike Pandaren in character so long as it's believable. It's a race that generally stuck to itself and while not hostile to anyone it never sided in the major conflicts until now and they went to both factions due to differing ideology. I get that.

What I do have a problem with is people who just shout in caps NO PANDAS BECAUSE THEY ARE SILLY. Good job ignoring your own crazy ass character and race stories because hey it's super serious and Panda's are not cool enough to hang out with my half dragon/half elf step son of Illidan reject.

Step back, get some perspective and maybe get rid of your irrational dislike of whatever's new being bad. Warcraft itself is a subversion of numerous fantasy tropes to a point that now several of those ideas are considered tropes themselves. Maybe you'd understand that if you stopped playing House in Redridge and actually go out on an adventure with some friends you met at the Tavern.

At least we can all agree on the idea that elves have caused all of the worlds(of warcraft) problems.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.




I've never done RP in WoW, but it's always seemed like an interesting idea. I mean, I like D&D, I like writing, I guess it wouldn't be too big of a leap to RP in a game, you know?

I did a ton of RP on a NWN PW back in the day. Really fun if you have people that respect the setting. Really annoying when people want to go full anime.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 16 2014 14:26 GMT
#55331
On August 16 2014 23:19 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 23:13 Requizen wrote:
On August 16 2014 17:56 Parnage wrote:
So I've had some interesting interactions with roleplayers as a Pandaren already and they really seem a tad salty..
Now I don't want to get off on a rant here but..
+ Show Spoiler [Rantings] +

Ever sense they put in Pandaren as a race I knew their was going to be a group of people who never played the WC3 campaign, never got to hang out with Chen Stormstout and his awesome quest for perfect booze.
They never touched Frozen Thrones multiplayer, and they don't have an inkling to the pure badass that Brewmasters were for several matchups.
I can understand that, not everyone does research or played the older games and people just figure eh this is due to that Jack Black animated film.

Yet what really galls me is the lore nerds and role-players taking the same stance. They have no damn excuse and yet half the time I get to hear the same convoluted dismissal that it's a cash grab despite the race being asked for by players sense burning crusade. They are a race, as much as the Elves, the Orcs and Tauren. Deal with it.

I really don't give a damn what you think about the idea of anthropomorphized pandas doing martial arts. Maybe instead of ripping off Salvatore for the past twenty years in your character profiles, you could take the realization that this is Warcraft. Not your own little fan-fiction playground where you can ignore parts you don't like just because you think an idea is silly.

You know whatever happened to the enjoyment of new and unusual things and bending fantasy tropes in ways that are considered different from the norm? I have no problem with people who dislike Pandaren in character so long as it's believable. It's a race that generally stuck to itself and while not hostile to anyone it never sided in the major conflicts until now and they went to both factions due to differing ideology. I get that.

What I do have a problem with is people who just shout in caps NO PANDAS BECAUSE THEY ARE SILLY. Good job ignoring your own crazy ass character and race stories because hey it's super serious and Panda's are not cool enough to hang out with my half dragon/half elf step son of Illidan reject.

Step back, get some perspective and maybe get rid of your irrational dislike of whatever's new being bad. Warcraft itself is a subversion of numerous fantasy tropes to a point that now several of those ideas are considered tropes themselves. Maybe you'd understand that if you stopped playing House in Redridge and actually go out on an adventure with some friends you met at the Tavern.

At least we can all agree on the idea that elves have caused all of the worlds(of warcraft) problems.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.




I've never done RP in WoW, but it's always seemed like an interesting idea. I mean, I like D&D, I like writing, I guess it wouldn't be too big of a leap to RP in a game, you know?

I did a ton of RP on a NWN PW back in the day. Really fun if you have people that respect the setting. Really annoying when people want to go full anime.


sugoiiii~ v(~.^)/
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 16 2014 14:46 GMT
#55332
Are you still drunk Soniv?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
August 16 2014 14:56 GMT
#55333
On August 16 2014 23:46 Alaric wrote:
Are you still drunk Soniv?

He's rather animeted.


+ Show Spoiler +
badumtish
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 15:07:52
August 16 2014 15:03 GMT
#55334
On August 16 2014 20:59 Doctorbeat wrote:
I understand the need for the race in the game, but an entire expansion focused on them with only one raid with a well known character as boss?


On August 16 2014 20:59 Doctorbeat wrote:
When we look at the end-bosses of raids, in Vanilla we have Raggy, Nefarian, Onyxia, Hakkar, C'Thun and Kel'Thuzad.

All of these except Nefarian and Kel'Thuzad BECAME well known by virtue of WoW. They weren't "well known characters" by virtue of existing lore--most of their lore was written in FOR WoW.

TBC was by far the biggest loregasm for people versed in pre-WoW Warcraft.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
August 16 2014 15:06 GMT
#55335
Except for suddenly evil Kaelthas. I found that stretching it justtttt abit.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 16 2014 15:08 GMT
#55336
On August 16 2014 23:46 Alaric wrote:
Are you still drunk Soniv?


lol no

my head is unhappy
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 16 2014 15:09 GMT
#55337
On August 17 2014 00:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Except for suddenly evil Kaelthas. I found that stretching it justtttt abit.


Amen. Made me want to punch a wall. Taking such a cool character in War3 and making him randomly an evil raid boss for no real reason.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 16 2014 15:12 GMT
#55338
Is that really surprising? I thought it was clear that Kael'thas was willing to do anything to sate his and his people's "thirst for magic"?

Never played WoW, just coming off my knowledge of TFT.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
August 16 2014 15:26 GMT
#55339
Not at alll my impression. He joined up with Illidan because the other choice was to be executed by fuking FOR 'UMANITY.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 15:27:42
August 16 2014 15:27 GMT
#55340
On August 16 2014 23:26 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 23:19 Gahlo wrote:
On August 16 2014 23:13 Requizen wrote:
On August 16 2014 17:56 Parnage wrote:
So I've had some interesting interactions with roleplayers as a Pandaren already and they really seem a tad salty..
Now I don't want to get off on a rant here but..
+ Show Spoiler [Rantings] +

Ever sense they put in Pandaren as a race I knew their was going to be a group of people who never played the WC3 campaign, never got to hang out with Chen Stormstout and his awesome quest for perfect booze.
They never touched Frozen Thrones multiplayer, and they don't have an inkling to the pure badass that Brewmasters were for several matchups.
I can understand that, not everyone does research or played the older games and people just figure eh this is due to that Jack Black animated film.

Yet what really galls me is the lore nerds and role-players taking the same stance. They have no damn excuse and yet half the time I get to hear the same convoluted dismissal that it's a cash grab despite the race being asked for by players sense burning crusade. They are a race, as much as the Elves, the Orcs and Tauren. Deal with it.

I really don't give a damn what you think about the idea of anthropomorphized pandas doing martial arts. Maybe instead of ripping off Salvatore for the past twenty years in your character profiles, you could take the realization that this is Warcraft. Not your own little fan-fiction playground where you can ignore parts you don't like just because you think an idea is silly.

You know whatever happened to the enjoyment of new and unusual things and bending fantasy tropes in ways that are considered different from the norm? I have no problem with people who dislike Pandaren in character so long as it's believable. It's a race that generally stuck to itself and while not hostile to anyone it never sided in the major conflicts until now and they went to both factions due to differing ideology. I get that.

What I do have a problem with is people who just shout in caps NO PANDAS BECAUSE THEY ARE SILLY. Good job ignoring your own crazy ass character and race stories because hey it's super serious and Panda's are not cool enough to hang out with my half dragon/half elf step son of Illidan reject.

Step back, get some perspective and maybe get rid of your irrational dislike of whatever's new being bad. Warcraft itself is a subversion of numerous fantasy tropes to a point that now several of those ideas are considered tropes themselves. Maybe you'd understand that if you stopped playing House in Redridge and actually go out on an adventure with some friends you met at the Tavern.

At least we can all agree on the idea that elves have caused all of the worlds(of warcraft) problems.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.




I've never done RP in WoW, but it's always seemed like an interesting idea. I mean, I like D&D, I like writing, I guess it wouldn't be too big of a leap to RP in a game, you know?

I did a ton of RP on a NWN PW back in the day. Really fun if you have people that respect the setting. Really annoying when people want to go full anime.


sugoiiii~ v(~.^)/

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