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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
August 18 2024 13:31 GMT
#1001
That one Clem vs Hero game is already better than the entire Serral vs Dark series
Perceivere
Profile Joined February 2024
131 Posts
August 18 2024 13:34 GMT
#1002
On August 18 2024 22:30 argonautdice wrote:
Calling it now: 4-2 for Clem.

If it's 4-3, I'd be worried for him. He'll be tired by the time he meets Serral, whereas Serral spent little effort against Dark. Since the final is a Bo9, Clem might start dipping in performance if it goes deep into the series, as Serral is virtually guaranteed to make it so. It could be a 3-hour bloodbath, with Clem losing from exhaustion.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
August 18 2024 13:36 GMT
#1003
On August 18 2024 22:30 Perceivere wrote:
Clem's mouse hand movement is so wide. He seems to be playing with 400 dpi. That's nuts. Flicked his hand after that game. Probably hurts to play like that hours each day.

ByuN once said that having low dpi is characteristic for the players famous for good micro and Gumiho after his GSL victory said that lowering his dpi was key for improving his play
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 18 2024 13:36 GMT
#1004
herO getting demolished so far.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26631 Posts
August 18 2024 13:37 GMT
#1005
On August 18 2024 22:30 Perceivere wrote:
Clem's mouse hand movement is so wide. He seems to be playing with 400 dpi. That's nuts. Flicked his hand after that game. Probably hurts to play like that hours each day.

It tends to be less painful I find having dropped mine a lot

At higher sensitivity you tend to mostly move your wrist as you don’t have to move your mouse much. But over a long session you’re repeatedly moving your wrist over a small range of motion.

If you play lower you’re pushing movements out to your elbow or shoulder too, so your wrist does find adjustments and for bigger movements they kick in.

It looks more strenuous but it’s probably less stress and strain because it’s spread over multiple joints more
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Nasigil1
Profile Joined March 2024
114 Posts
August 18 2024 13:37 GMT
#1006
On August 18 2024 21:59 Perceivere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2024 21:46 Brutaxilos wrote:
On August 18 2024 21:45 darklycid wrote:
On Point serral is honestly Just boring If you arent a fanboy.

Yeaa... his dominance makes the pro scene less exciting.

Funny. When was the last time anyone said this about Flash? And yet, many have voiced their opinion that Flash was even more dominant. I love the bias and salt around here. The tears get more delicious by the day.


You sound like someone that just don't know Flash at all.

"Flash destroyed Starcraft" was absolutely a saying back in the day. People was complaining his inpenetrable defensive style make the game boring. And that was during the time where there are hundreds of pro players and dozens of teams, the peak of esports competitive scene.

Serral is the GOAT of SC2, but let's no push past the boundary.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
August 18 2024 13:40 GMT
#1007
Why is herO not dead?
Perceivere
Profile Joined February 2024
131 Posts
August 18 2024 13:40 GMT
#1008
On August 18 2024 22:37 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2024 22:30 Perceivere wrote:
Clem's mouse hand movement is so wide. He seems to be playing with 400 dpi. That's nuts. Flicked his hand after that game. Probably hurts to play like that hours each day.

It tends to be less painful I find having dropped mine a lot

At higher sensitivity you tend to mostly move your wrist as you don’t have to move your mouse much. But over a long session you’re repeatedly moving your wrist over a small range of motion.

If you play lower you’re pushing movements out to your elbow or shoulder too, so your wrist does find adjustments and for bigger movements they kick in.

It looks more strenuous but it’s probably less stress and strain because it’s spread over multiple joints more

That's a good point. I play at 800 dpi, and my movement is more of a hybrid of wrist and arm movement, with my elbow being the pivot. I find it very comfortable, but then again, I'm not playing at anywhere near the vigor of these guys.
Nasigil1
Profile Joined March 2024
114 Posts
August 18 2024 13:40 GMT
#1009
Nice, herO is back into the game.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
August 18 2024 13:41 GMT
#1010
On August 18 2024 22:20 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2024 21:59 Perceivere wrote:
On August 18 2024 21:46 Brutaxilos wrote:
On August 18 2024 21:45 darklycid wrote:
On Point serral is honestly Just boring If you arent a fanboy.

Yeaa... his dominance makes the pro scene less exciting.

Funny. When was the last time anyone said this about Flash? And yet, many have voiced their opinion that Flash was even more dominant. I love the bias and salt around here. The tears get more delicious by the day.

Some people find it boring, some find excellence inspiring. There’s plenty of BW fans on these forums who’ve said they’d probably enjoy ASL without an in-shape Flash because he’s so strong. Plenty who also want to see the BW GOAT do his thing.

Not everyone is salty and crying lmao.

I think a wider issue in SC2 at present is there’s just so few people who can actually beat Serral.

Flash was a monster, but he could lose. He had rivalries. What set him apart from his peers was that extra level of consistency versus the field.

Obviously versus Jaedong being one of the most famous, effort famously beating him in a Starleague final. Towards BW dying down, guys like Fantasy and Jangbi took him out. Bisu beat him in an epic final set of the last Proleague going. BW experts can correct or expand if they want!

Maru’s record sticks him as a pretty solid #2, clear of the field for some time and Serral just smashes him. You’re left with like Dark, Clem or Reynor on a good day, maybe? But those guys aren’t always locks to make it deep either, so if they lose early you’re like ‘hm there goes the chance of Serral actually losing’

Rag and Solar beating him in big tournies was so notable because it’s so increasingly rare.

Whether it’s Serral’s sheer excellence or the field lacking a bit of depth, or a combo, it can be a bit monotonous. Also SC2 does tend to do more consistent, reliable formats to protect the big guys than BW did, so Serral may have to be beaten twice, or thrice as in this tournament!

Play out of your mind and take out Flash, he’s out. Do the same with Serral and he frequently returns. Like one of those boss battles you get the health bar finally depleted, let out a sigh of relief only for that bar to start filling up and you be left preparing to face phase 2.

I’m a big admirer of the guy, but I do get where people are coming from too.

I see what you're saying but I just feel him winning everything just destroys all the good storylines. Like Dark winning as a father, herO finally getting a big win for Protoss, or Clem finally winning that big tournament would all be way better storylines then Serral winning again and being like "I guess I won another trophy".
Also reduces my interest in watching considerably but can't blame the guy for being that good
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 18 2024 13:41 GMT
#1011
lmao herO is an actual wizard - how did he not got get killed and instead come out ahead
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-18 13:41:59
August 18 2024 13:41 GMT
#1012
herO looking great there. you can see the difference with other Protoss vs Terran so clearly in this game. not only the harassing and counterattacks, but also doing such a better job delaying the push, attacking with smaller groups in the middle of the map, taking initial fights farther forward then withdrawing, flanking, etc. not just betting it all on a single battery overcharge.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
August 18 2024 13:43 GMT
#1013
Clem had a winning advantage - but that dropship snipe now he's on the back foot
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
August 18 2024 13:43 GMT
#1014
Dark played well but Serral is the goat for a reason

Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
August 18 2024 13:46 GMT
#1015
whoever wins this series I'm just in awe at both of these players. I've missed seeing this high-level TvP
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
August 18 2024 13:46 GMT
#1016
On August 18 2024 22:43 Blitzball04 wrote:
Dark played well but Serral is the goat for a reason


What did dark do well?
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
August 18 2024 13:47 GMT
#1017
how the f did Clem claw his way back into this with micro alone
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Perceivere
Profile Joined February 2024
131 Posts
August 18 2024 13:49 GMT
#1018
On August 18 2024 22:37 Nasigil1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2024 21:59 Perceivere wrote:
On August 18 2024 21:46 Brutaxilos wrote:
On August 18 2024 21:45 darklycid wrote:
On Point serral is honestly Just boring If you arent a fanboy.

Yeaa... his dominance makes the pro scene less exciting.

Funny. When was the last time anyone said this about Flash? And yet, many have voiced their opinion that Flash was even more dominant. I love the bias and salt around here. The tears get more delicious by the day.


You sound like someone that just don't know Flash at all.

"Flash destroyed Starcraft" was absolutely a saying back in the day. People was complaining his inpenetrable defensive style make the game boring. And that was during the time where there are hundreds of pro players and dozens of teams, the peak of esports competitive scene.

Serral is the GOAT of SC2, but let's no push past the boundary.



I'll push past your arbitrary boundary if I want to. Had he never reached anywhere near the 91% match winrate Serral has been at for the last 18 months? "Peak of esports" at a time when SC was the only esport...lol. I think you mean peak of SC. That's also arguable. To me, the peak occurs at where the top talents peak, and there still exists plenty of money to be made in the scene. More mediocre players in an inflated player pool means nothing to me. You double the little league and minor league of baseball, that doesn't mean there's any more Ohtanis, Harpers, and Judge.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4075 Posts
August 18 2024 13:50 GMT
#1019
what a tactical masterpiece from herO
Drone is a way of living
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
August 18 2024 13:51 GMT
#1020
Cant believe clem won this
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