What a terrrible decision by herO. I undertsand that you need to switch it up, but protoss was nerfed into the ground, it has 2 viable strategies and phoenix isn't one of them. Stop making phoenix, I haven't seen a single game where it has worked in the last year.

i'm seriously angry.

DONT EVER MAKE PHOENIX. It sucks you get left with no army. Dont ever do it

On February 13 2023 03:12 Xamo wrote:

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Which change has had any influence in this semifinal?

Judging by winrates, it has been terran favored since before the patch.

In any case herO lost because he's a fool who made phoenixses in match point

dysenterymd

1237 Posts

February 12 2023 18:12 GMT

#1064

On February 13 2023 03:10 Pandain wrote:
When was the last major TvT final?

DHM Last Chance 2022 was the last "premier" tournament with a TvT finals, the last truly premier event with a TvT finals was Maru vs TY in GSL Season 3 2020

Nebuchad

Switzerland12204 Posts

February 12 2023 18:12 GMT

#1065

On February 13 2023 03:12 Xamo wrote:

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Which change has had any influence in this semifinal?

Battery change won the first game

Captain Peabody

United States3110 Posts

February 12 2023 18:12 GMT

#1066

oh damn TvT Grand Finals, so...

we have the meme "Zerg cabal"?

"Terran Illuminati" "the Great Terran Conspiracy?" "Loose Terran Change"?

(don't ban me this is a joke)

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

February 12 2023 18:13 GMT

#1067

I feel emotional, what a sweet story

Fanatic-Templar

Canada5819 Posts

February 12 2023 18:13 GMT

#1068

On February 13 2023 03:10 Zaros wrote:
Absolutely amazing, I'm a protoss but Oliveira's story is just amazing.

Same. Literally the only thing that could've happened this tournament that would make me not root for Protoss.

Fran_

United States1024 Posts

February 12 2023 18:13 GMT

#1069

Ruff is very sad today.

darklycid

3511 Posts

February 12 2023 18:13 GMT

#1070

Tbh pvt has been terran favored at the top for a while imo.

Argonauta

Spain4948 Posts

February 12 2023 18:13 GMT

#1071

honestly those plays vs herO were waay sicker than Maru's, like when Maru plays, he is afraid, playing to not lose, but Olivera plays to win

Fran_

United States1024 Posts

February 12 2023 18:13 GMT

#1072

On February 13 2023 03:13 Pandain wrote:
I feel emotional, what a sweet story

Having some tears too <3

"Never give up your dream"

Andi_Goldberger

Germany1608 Posts

February 12 2023 18:14 GMT

#1073

hes just like me fr fr

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9658 Posts

February 12 2023 18:14 GMT

#1074

He's got that killer instinct

SHODAN

United Kingdom1119 Posts

February 12 2023 18:14 GMT

#1075

TERRAN CONGLOMERATE >>> ZERG CABAL

Heartland

Sweden24580 Posts

February 12 2023 18:14 GMT

#1076

He's also got a heart of gold! This is amazing

Fanatic-Templar

Canada5819 Posts

February 12 2023 18:14 GMT

#1077

On February 13 2023 03:11 Acrofales wrote:

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On February 13 2023 02:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:

On February 13 2023 02:52 Acrofales wrote:

On February 13 2023 02:41 Fanatic-Templar wrote:

On February 13 2023 02:36 Acrofales wrote:

On February 13 2023 02:29 Elentos wrote:

On February 13 2023 02:28 Acrofales wrote:

On February 13 2023 02:23 youaremysin wrote:
There's no way Maru wins this, that would be a too perfect story. herO will destroy both terrans, well it'll be a cool story too.

Well with Dark going to the military, we do need a new archvillain. herO is perfect for the role.

herO? Archvillain? Please, the man lives up to his name, he dragged his race from the depths of despair single-handed.

He's the only halfway decent Protoss right now, but his playstyle is about as vile and dirty as you can get. There is no trick he won't abuse. It was disgusting back in his proleague days and it still is. The difference is that right now he's the only one who seems remotely capable of doing it, which makes it endearing rather than disgusting. But he's definitely no hero.

Yeah, who's ever heard of hero that's clever, creative and takes advantages of his opponents' weakness? True heroes just amass an impossibly large army and march straight forward, crushing all opposition beneath the iron heel of justice.

Well, yeah, pretty much. What you're describing sounds more like an anti-hero than a hero. But you seem to think that I am saying herO should play more like Stats, or that you should stop cheering for herO. I am not saying either of those things. I'm just saying it'll be great if he goes full villain and crushes fan favourites to win the tournament.

No, I'm saying that I'm imagining you watching Star Wars and thinking Luke Skywalker is the villain. "Ugh, abusing the Death Star's lack of close-ranged defenses with a bunch of tiny starfighters? Bypassing all its armour by exploiting the fact that a moon-sized battlestation needs thermal exhausts? And he had to reorient the torpedoes with ACTUAL MAGIC? I can't believe the heroic Galactic Empire got so tragically done in like that."

Lets just agree that herO is neither the archvillain successor to Dark nor the hero protoss need

I mean, I'd like to not have a hero, but a Protoss ensemble

tigera6

3398 Posts

February 12 2023 18:14 GMT

#1078

On February 13 2023 03:13 Argonauta wrote:
honestly those plays vs herO were waay sicker than Maru's, like when Maru plays, he is afraid, playing to not lose, but Olivera plays to win

and there is a reason for that, the last time Maru tried to "plays to win" with lots of aggressive build against herO, he get smashed in the GSL Final.

TaKeTV

Germany1199 Posts

February 12 2023 18:14 GMT

#1079

Not taking away from OLIVEIRA / TIME's performance but his series vs Reynor was more impressive mechanically and mentally. herO totally fell apart in semis. That was terrible by all his standards. Obviously not TIME's fault.

It seems like today anything can happen. I'll start and say: Half Life 3 gets released today