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[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO8, RO4, Grand Finals - Page 50

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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

-Wax
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 12 2023 17:58 GMT
#981
I AM GETTING NERD CHILLS TASTELESS!
~~~~~
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 12 2023 17:59 GMT
#982
On February 13 2023 02:58 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oliveira playing like mad. What a legend it would be if he could actually win the entire tournament.


It would be something if he could take more than 1 game against Maru


Heromarine took 2 games off Maru and Oliveira smashed him.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
February 12 2023 17:59 GMT
#983
Spsechlees again
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 12 2023 17:59 GMT
#984
SC2 refuses to create good finals
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 17:59:43
February 12 2023 17:59 GMT
#985
On February 13 2023 02:52 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:41 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:36 Acrofales wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:29 Elentos wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:28 Acrofales wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:23 youaremysin wrote:
There's no way Maru wins this, that would be a too perfect story. herO will destroy both terrans, well it'll be a cool story too.

Well with Dark going to the military, we do need a new archvillain. herO is perfect for the role.

herO? Archvillain? Please, the man lives up to his name, he dragged his race from the depths of despair single-handed.

He's the only halfway decent Protoss right now, but his playstyle is about as vile and dirty as you can get. There is no trick he won't abuse. It was disgusting back in his proleague days and it still is. The difference is that right now he's the only one who seems remotely capable of doing it, which makes it endearing rather than disgusting. But he's definitely no hero.


Yeah, who's ever heard of hero that's clever, creative and takes advantages of his opponents' weakness? True heroes just amass an impossibly large army and march straight forward, crushing all opposition beneath the iron heel of justice.

Well, yeah, pretty much. What you're describing sounds more like an anti-hero than a hero. But you seem to think that I am saying herO should play more like Stats, or that you should stop cheering for herO. I am not saying either of those things. I'm just saying it'll be great if he goes full villain and crushes fan favourites to win the tournament.


No, I'm saying that I'm imagining you watching Star Wars and thinking Luke Skywalker is the villain. "Ugh, abusing the Death Star's lack of close-ranged defenses with a bunch of tiny starfighters? Bypassing all its armour by exploiting the fact that a moon-sized battlestation needs thermal exhausts? And he had to reorient the torpedoes with ACTUAL MAGIC? I can't believe the heroic Galactic Empire got so tragically done in like that."
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
February 12 2023 17:59 GMT
#986
Actually terran best race?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 17:59:35
February 12 2023 17:59 GMT
#987
On February 13 2023 02:58 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oliveira playing like mad. What a legend it would be if he could actually win the entire tournament.


It would be something if he could take more than 1 game against Maru


It will be the greatest underdog story in sc2 history if he wins
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
February 12 2023 17:59 GMT
#988
On February 13 2023 02:58 VladSlymor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:57 sudete wrote:
You guys are gonna get what you want - a Maru tvt stomp in the finals... rip


So by this logic we can never cheer for an outsider? C'mon!


No, you can do whatever you want. But this has shades of Special getting to the grand finals, where he was dumpstered by Serral and we were left with the shreds of what could have been tremendous fun
Year of MaxPax
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
February 12 2023 18:00 GMT
#989
On February 13 2023 02:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:52 Acrofales wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:41 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:36 Acrofales wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:29 Elentos wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:28 Acrofales wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:23 youaremysin wrote:
There's no way Maru wins this, that would be a too perfect story. herO will destroy both terrans, well it'll be a cool story too.

Well with Dark going to the military, we do need a new archvillain. herO is perfect for the role.

herO? Archvillain? Please, the man lives up to his name, he dragged his race from the depths of despair single-handed.

He's the only halfway decent Protoss right now, but his playstyle is about as vile and dirty as you can get. There is no trick he won't abuse. It was disgusting back in his proleague days and it still is. The difference is that right now he's the only one who seems remotely capable of doing it, which makes it endearing rather than disgusting. But he's definitely no hero.


Yeah, who's ever heard of hero that's clever, creative and takes advantages of his opponents' weakness? True heroes just amass an impossibly large army and march straight forward, crushing all opposition beneath the iron heel of justice.

Well, yeah, pretty much. What you're describing sounds more like an anti-hero than a hero. But you seem to think that I am saying herO should play more like Stats, or that you should stop cheering for herO. I am not saying either of those things. I'm just saying it'll be great if he goes full villain and crushes fan favourites to win the tournament.


No, I'm saying that I'm imagining you watching Star Wars and thinking Luke Skywalker is the villain. "Ugh, abusing the Death Star's lack of close-ranged defenses with a bunch of tiny starfighters? Bypassing all its armour by exploiting the fact that a moon-sized battlestation needs thermal exhausts? And he had to reorient the torpedoes with ACTUAL MAGIC? I can't believe the heroic Galactic Empire got so tragically done in like that."

perfect analogy haha
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
531 Posts
February 12 2023 18:00 GMT
#990
On February 13 2023 02:59 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:58 sudete wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oliveira playing like mad. What a legend it would be if he could actually win the entire tournament.


It would be something if he could take more than 1 game against Maru


It will be the greatest underdog story in sc2 history if he wins

Better story than Maru winning. Cinderella story in TIMe, or the easiest ever run to the IEM championship.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 12 2023 18:00 GMT
#991
On February 13 2023 02:59 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:58 VladSlymor wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:57 sudete wrote:
You guys are gonna get what you want - a Maru tvt stomp in the finals... rip


So by this logic we can never cheer for an outsider? C'mon!


No, you can do whatever you want. But this has shades of Special getting to the grand finals, where he was dumpstered by Serral and we were left with the shreds of what could have been tremendous fun


I dont think hero vs Maru is going to be that exciting anyway, hero will do some timings maru either dies or wins. Maybe one macro game in the 7 games.

TvT has been pretty exciting this tournament.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
February 12 2023 18:01 GMT
#992
On February 13 2023 02:58 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oliveira playing like mad. What a legend it would be if he could actually win the entire tournament.


It would be something if he could take more than 1 game against Maru

LMAO people were saying the exact same word before he played Reynor and herO.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
February 12 2023 18:01 GMT
#993
On February 13 2023 02:59 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:58 sudete wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oliveira playing like mad. What a legend it would be if he could actually win the entire tournament.


It would be something if he could take more than 1 game against Maru


Heromarine took 2 games off Maru and Oliveira smashed him.


Believing in the transitive properties of games between different players is how you make terrible predictions. Maru in the grand finals and playing TvT is as bulletproof as it gets
Year of MaxPax
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
February 12 2023 18:02 GMT
#994
On February 13 2023 03:01 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:58 sudete wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oliveira playing like mad. What a legend it would be if he could actually win the entire tournament.


It would be something if he could take more than 1 game against Maru

LMAO people were saying the exact same word before he played Reynor and herO.


Don't mind if I get back to you after the finals, then
Year of MaxPax
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
February 12 2023 18:02 GMT
#995
On February 13 2023 02:59 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:58 VladSlymor wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:57 sudete wrote:
You guys are gonna get what you want - a Maru tvt stomp in the finals... rip


So by this logic we can never cheer for an outsider? C'mon!


No, you can do whatever you want. But this has shades of Special getting to the grand finals, where he was dumpstered by Serral and we were left with the shreds of what could have been tremendous fun

Imagine comparing a WCS circuit event to IEM Katowice
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
February 12 2023 18:02 GMT
#996
Well let's not write off herO yet, he's come back from worse.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 12 2023 18:02 GMT
#997
On February 13 2023 02:59 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:58 VladSlymor wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:57 sudete wrote:
You guys are gonna get what you want - a Maru tvt stomp in the finals... rip


So by this logic we can never cheer for an outsider? C'mon!


No, you can do whatever you want. But this has shades of Special getting to the grand finals, where he was dumpstered by Serral and we were left with the shreds of what could have been tremendous fun


Special got into a world finals? wtf how did I miss that
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 18:03:38
February 12 2023 18:03 GMT
#998
On February 13 2023 03:01 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:58 sudete wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oliveira playing like mad. What a legend it would be if he could actually win the entire tournament.


It would be something if he could take more than 1 game against Maru

LMAO people were saying the exact same word before he played Reynor and herO.

Maru's TvT is the most invincible matchup in the world rn, maybe in the history of SC2. Dropping a bo3 to HM doesn't change that.

TIME is having the run of his life so I wouldn't count him out entirely, but most likely outcome of a Maru vs TIME finals is Maru 4-1. I'll still cheer for TIME though, just being realistic.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
February 12 2023 18:03 GMT
#999
Will he follow up by Blink? It seems like that is herO's go-to tech
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 12 2023 18:03 GMT
#1000
On February 13 2023 03:01 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:59 Zaros wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:58 sudete wrote:
On February 13 2023 02:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Oliveira playing like mad. What a legend it would be if he could actually win the entire tournament.


It would be something if he could take more than 1 game against Maru


Heromarine took 2 games off Maru and Oliveira smashed him.


Believing in the transitive properties of games between different players is how you make terrible predictions. Maru in the grand finals and playing TvT is as bulletproof as it gets



At this point, I don't want to jinx anyone else by just assuming that they're going to beat TIME. He has the kind of carefree pressure free energy that only someone riding in an absolute zone can possibly be feeling.
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