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I hope to see Maru, ByuN and Creator qualify but this should be next to impossible given the current scores
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Creator DRG and cure to advance
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if Maru tops the group as expected, then herO v Maru finals is impossible right? Because you aren't allowed to face someone from the same group in the semis?
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On September 29 2022 13:28 angry_maia wrote: if Maru tops the group as expected, then herO v Maru finals is impossible right? Because you aren't allowed to face someone from the same group in the semis? yea herO won't get put vs Ragnarok in the semifinal, so herO would face the Group B 1st place for the semifinal
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In one hand I want Maru to top the group, in the other, I the more Maru games, the better, and 2 or 3 spot gives us that.
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Haven't seen phoenix/colossus outside of chinese protosses in a while
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Man, Creator's move command really threw this game.
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Creator's performance just kept dwindling since WTL? He kept losing probes to reapers many times if I can recall, maybe didn't practice much for the micro?
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late drone pull from DRG no? usually they pull drones before the bunker is even started when they scout it
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Maru's comeback for the 2nd day of the group seems like normal thing now.
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Maru can either go full ghost split map let's consume all the minerals or kill you with a bunker rush. Scary.
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On September 29 2022 19:18 Charoisaur wrote: late drone pull from DRG no? usually they pull drones before the bunker is even started when they scout it That + he pulled fewer than usual, initially
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On September 29 2022 19:18 Charoisaur wrote: late drone pull from DRG no? usually they pull drones before the bunker is even started when they scout it
He thought two racks, maybe? Didn't prepare much like building spine.
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I really dislike the small drone pulls. If you're gonna drone pull, commit.You're not gonna stop Maru's bunker with 5/6 drones dammit.
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Artosis spitting the truth. Gumiho carrying terran builds ever since Mvp left
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its not mathematically possible for all to go 2:2, but it would have been funny if they could
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Gumiho is just like Zest, not much appreciation even though they devise different meta builds in respective of their own race. If they just had great micro, maybe they were appreciated more.
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I was making myself a quick lunch to enjoy the match but it was already over by the time I prepared it. Maru you too strong, one more match!
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I will, once again, trashtalk those zergs that blindly go into 70 drones and won't even consider researching overlord speed for free scouting
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Maru beat DRG already? What the fuck? I turned away from the stream for it felt like 15 minutes.
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On September 29 2022 19:32 Durnuu wrote:I will, once again, trashtalk those zergs that blindly go into 70 drones and won't even consider researching overlord speed for free scouting  Thats what happen when Zerg got the free scouting pillar on every map. Without that shit most Zerg would have to go for Overlord speed first.
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Way to throw the only lead you had, Cure
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On September 29 2022 19:51 Durnuu wrote: Way to throw the only lead you had, Cure Cure threw away his contain so that we could get this crazy game
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Am often meh on TvTs, but that was absolutely SICK. If you're reading the thread looking for matches to watch - Cure vs Byun game 1. Damn.
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There is a reason you need more Viking, to safeguard the Tanks from those crazy drop on top of the tanks.
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best game of the day so far. TvT can be so entertaining to watch
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On September 29 2022 20:02 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Am often meh on TvTs, but that was absolutely SICK. If you're reading the thread looking for matches to watch - Cure vs Byun game 1. Damn. and game 2 lol
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So is ByuN eliminated now?
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That DPG hoodie, I gotta get some of that drip.
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On September 29 2022 20:12 Schelim wrote: So is ByuN eliminated now? Yes.
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Cure is in no matter what right, his map score is so good that he cant fall behind both DRG and Creator.
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On September 29 2022 20:20 tigera6 wrote: Cure is in no matter what right, his map score is so good that he cant fall behind both DRG and Creator. Maru is guaranteed as well, even if he goes 0-2 against Cure and Creator wins. He'll either have better map score than DRG or the head-to-head.
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As a lesson, don't make too much corruptors.
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if DRG takes even one game from Creator he goes through I think
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On September 29 2022 20:35 M2 wrote: if DRG takes even one game from Creator he goes through I think
Meaning Creator can't get through even though he 2-0 Maru before?
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On September 29 2022 20:35 M2 wrote: if DRG takes even one game from Creator he goes through I think If Creator takes this 2-1 then they're both at -1 map score, so Creator goes through with the head to head tiebreaker.
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The DTs did a lot by killing many drones initially, but then nothing to defend the probes in bases. Creator just underestimated the power of mutas when he knew DRG made spire already.
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was Creator running up a ramp into creep?
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Just wrong choice in the strategy in the last two games. Make sure comeback stronger, Creator.
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Ragnarok and DRG cannot be stopped before ro6
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So DRG is fixed at No.2 seed because of the lower map score and will play herO in Ro6.
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No tie-breaker right? Maru should advances no matter what even though he may loss 2-0 to Cure later?
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On September 29 2022 21:04 swarminfestor wrote: No tie-breaker right? Maru should advances even though he may loss 2-0 to Cure later? Creator is 1-3 in matches, Maru 2-2 at worst, so yes.
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On September 29 2022 21:02 umelbumel wrote: was Creator running up a ramp into creep? and into a concave
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When there is no splash damage, LingHydra is the most OP composition.
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maru and cure basically play for who goes 1st and who 3rd if I understand it correctly
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DRG Ragnarok literally the best korean zergs in the post apocalyptic era
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Poor SCV is stuck between the starport and the minerals
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Cure playing this game like I played my TvTs when I didn't want to play the matchup
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Maru is unkillable in TvT what the actual fuck!
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On September 29 2022 21:22 Durnuu wrote: Cure playing this game like I played my TvTs when I didn't want to play the matchup yeah, he doesnt want to play the TvT lategame against Maru neither.
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Maru's ravens >>> Cure's Banshees, confirmed!
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sick hold, I though sending ravens + banshee to counter was a bit too much but somehow Maru managed.
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On September 29 2022 21:22 Durnuu wrote: Cure playing this game like I played my TvTs when I didn't want to play the matchup
The same thing with Byun in Day 1 before.
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Day 2 Maru >>> Day 1 Maru
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"This is how you do aggressive builds, Cure..." - Maru
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On September 29 2022 21:33 Die4Ever wrote: Day 2 Maru >>> Day 1 Maru
Always like that. The same thing happened in season before.
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herO faces Maru if he makes it through the ro6 right? No Maru herO finals after all
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On September 29 2022 21:35 dysenterymd wrote: herO faces Maru if he makes it through the ro6 right? No Maru herO finals after all yea
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On September 29 2022 21:35 dysenterymd wrote: herO faces Maru if he makes it through the ro6 right? No Maru herO finals after all Yeah that is correct. No matter if directly from the winners or through the deciders, he goes vs Maru if he wins in either series.
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By the way, the trickle down gamernomics joke is why we are going to miss Tastosis.
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Congrat to Poopi with the correct prediction on 4/5 matches including the map score, what a legend.
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Up to herO again to carry his race
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Ok I think Ragnagod goes to the finals
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On September 29 2022 21:42 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2022 21:35 dysenterymd wrote: herO faces Maru if he makes it through the ro6 right? No Maru herO finals after all Yeah that is correct. No matter if directly from the winners or through the deciders, he goes vs Maru if he wins in either series.
Why? What is the rule?
how is it that hero is placed against maru regardless of whether he progresses through the winner bracket or loser bracket?
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On September 29 2022 22:48 DarkGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2022 21:42 Argonauta wrote:On September 29 2022 21:35 dysenterymd wrote: herO faces Maru if he makes it through the ro6 right? No Maru herO finals after all Yeah that is correct. No matter if directly from the winners or through the deciders, he goes vs Maru if he wins in either series. Why? What is the rule? how is it that hero is placed against maru regardless of whether he progresses through the winner bracket or loser bracket? The winner of herO vs DRG is placed against the guy he hasn't played against in group stages. Whoever comes out of the lower bracket gets the other one. So if herO wins, he gets Maru, if DRG wins, he gets RagnaroK.
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Ok there is no alternative narrative stopping Maru this time. His main rivals are gone from the tournament, Protoss finally got a Code S win. The foreigners are dead.
The only narrative left is G5L. Go fucking win it already Maru!
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On September 30 2022 00:22 Vindicare605 wrote: Ok there is no alternative narrative stopping Maru this time. His main rivals are gone from the tournament, Protoss finally got a Code S win. The foreigners are dead.
The only narrative left is G5L. Go fucking win it already Maru! You forgot the one, Zerg still OP without Dark and Rogue.
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On September 30 2022 00:22 Vindicare605 wrote: Ok there is no alternative narrative stopping Maru this time. His main rivals are gone from the tournament, Protoss finally got a Code S win. The foreigners are dead.
The only narrative left is G5L. Go fucking win it already Maru! what about Ragnarok turning into Ragnagod?
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On September 30 2022 02:23 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2022 00:22 Vindicare605 wrote: Ok there is no alternative narrative stopping Maru this time. His main rivals are gone from the tournament, Protoss finally got a Code S win. The foreigners are dead.
The only narrative left is G5L. Go fucking win it already Maru! what about Ragnarok turning into Ragnagod?
That's not a thing, people keep trying to make it a thing but it's not a thing.
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5/5 liquibets, for some reason I bet on Cure for my liquibets despite predicting him to lose in the preview. I was rank 39 after the very difficult first part, so with two good rounds in a row I might crack the top 10?
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hmm, despite last season I honestly think that Hero might prefer a bo5 against maru to a bo7.
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how the heck is the playoff bracket determined? is there a formula?
I mean if herO beats DRG, who will be his next opponent in the RO4?
in GSL '22 season 2, the 2nd vs 2nd winner (Bunny) became the opponent in the 1st semi match
but in GSL '22 season 1, the 2nd vs 2nd winner (Rogue) became the opponent in the 2nd semi match.
the only formula that seems to makes sense is a preference for matching players who were not fighting in the same RO10 group
what happens then if the RO4 consists of 3 players from RO10 group A (e.g. herO, Rag and GuMi) and only 1 player from RO10 group B (Maru)? will it just be a coin toss or something?
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I could be wrong because the situation never happened before, but I believe if both of the survivors came from the same group (herO/gumiho or drg/cure), the one advancing from the winner's match will face the winner of group A (in this case, Ragnarok) & vice versa.
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On September 30 2022 17:52 Competitive-Yam137 wrote: I could be wrong because the situation never happened before, but I believe if both of the survivors came from the same group (herO/gumiho or drg/cure), the one advancing from the winner's match will face the winner of group A (in this case, Ragnarok) & vice versa. yea if herO and Gumiho advance then herO faces Maru, and Gumiho faces Ragnagod
if DRG and Cure both advance then DRG faces Ragnagod and Cure faces Maru
so the 2nd place players are the ones that get to avoid their groupmate, but the 3rd places from the groups just get whichever slot is remaining
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Basically the winner of the 2nd place match shall play the 1st place from the other group. Then whoever coming out next will play the other 1st place.
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On September 30 2022 20:13 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2022 17:52 Competitive-Yam137 wrote: I could be wrong because the situation never happened before, but I believe if both of the survivors came from the same group (herO/gumiho or drg/cure), the one advancing from the winner's match will face the winner of group A (in this case, Ragnarok) & vice versa. yea if herO and Gumiho advance then herO faces Maru, and Gumiho faces Ragnagod if DRG and Cure both advance then DRG faces Ragnagod and Cure faces Maru so the 2nd place players are the ones that get to avoid their groupmate, but the 3rd places from the groups just get whichever slot is remaining
that explained it perfectly, thank you
Cure and GuMi got their work cut out for them, having to prepare for 3 matchups in the RO6. DRG and herO only have to prepare for 2
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On September 30 2022 21:06 SHODAN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2022 20:13 Die4Ever wrote:On September 30 2022 17:52 Competitive-Yam137 wrote: I could be wrong because the situation never happened before, but I believe if both of the survivors came from the same group (herO/gumiho or drg/cure), the one advancing from the winner's match will face the winner of group A (in this case, Ragnarok) & vice versa. yea if herO and Gumiho advance then herO faces Maru, and Gumiho faces Ragnagod if DRG and Cure both advance then DRG faces Ragnagod and Cure faces Maru so the 2nd place players are the ones that get to avoid their groupmate, but the 3rd places from the groups just get whichever slot is remaining that explained it perfectly, thank you Cure and GuMi got their work cut out for them, having to prepare for 3 matchups in the RO6. DRG and herO only have to prepare for 2
This is precisely why I dislike the new format. Starleague leans more towards prep, at least for the knockout phase (but I recall in some of the OSL/MSL in BW, group matches were spaced out over days so that players don't play multiple matches against different opponents in a day). Now the RO6 has adopted a weekender format.
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On October 01 2022 16:55 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2022 21:06 SHODAN wrote:On September 30 2022 20:13 Die4Ever wrote:On September 30 2022 17:52 Competitive-Yam137 wrote: I could be wrong because the situation never happened before, but I believe if both of the survivors came from the same group (herO/gumiho or drg/cure), the one advancing from the winner's match will face the winner of group A (in this case, Ragnarok) & vice versa. yea if herO and Gumiho advance then herO faces Maru, and Gumiho faces Ragnagod if DRG and Cure both advance then DRG faces Ragnagod and Cure faces Maru so the 2nd place players are the ones that get to avoid their groupmate, but the 3rd places from the groups just get whichever slot is remaining that explained it perfectly, thank you Cure and GuMi got their work cut out for them, having to prepare for 3 matchups in the RO6. DRG and herO only have to prepare for 2 This is precisely why I dislike the new format. Starleague leans more towards prep, at least for the knockout phase (but I recall in some of the OSL/MSL in BW, group matches were spaced out over days so that players don't play multiple matches against different opponents in a day). Now the RO6 has adopted a weekender format.
I appreciate the extra difficulty for those fighting their way up from 3rd place. the disavantage feels justified because it's based on RO10 results. if 3rd vs 3rd winner beats 2nd vs 2nd loser, then it is a decisively the best player who got through
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On October 01 2022 16:55 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2022 21:06 SHODAN wrote:On September 30 2022 20:13 Die4Ever wrote:On September 30 2022 17:52 Competitive-Yam137 wrote: I could be wrong because the situation never happened before, but I believe if both of the survivors came from the same group (herO/gumiho or drg/cure), the one advancing from the winner's match will face the winner of group A (in this case, Ragnarok) & vice versa. yea if herO and Gumiho advance then herO faces Maru, and Gumiho faces Ragnagod if DRG and Cure both advance then DRG faces Ragnagod and Cure faces Maru so the 2nd place players are the ones that get to avoid their groupmate, but the 3rd places from the groups just get whichever slot is remaining that explained it perfectly, thank you Cure and GuMi got their work cut out for them, having to prepare for 3 matchups in the RO6. DRG and herO only have to prepare for 2 This is precisely why I dislike the new format. Starleague leans more towards prep, at least for the knockout phase (but I recall in some of the OSL/MSL in BW, group matches were spaced out over days so that players don't play multiple matches against different opponents in a day). Now the RO6 has adopted a weekender format. It's four players, the same amount as in a ro20 group. Not really that close to a Weekender imo
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On October 01 2022 20:54 SHODAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2022 16:55 RKC wrote:On September 30 2022 21:06 SHODAN wrote:On September 30 2022 20:13 Die4Ever wrote:On September 30 2022 17:52 Competitive-Yam137 wrote: I could be wrong because the situation never happened before, but I believe if both of the survivors came from the same group (herO/gumiho or drg/cure), the one advancing from the winner's match will face the winner of group A (in this case, Ragnarok) & vice versa. yea if herO and Gumiho advance then herO faces Maru, and Gumiho faces Ragnagod if DRG and Cure both advance then DRG faces Ragnagod and Cure faces Maru so the 2nd place players are the ones that get to avoid their groupmate, but the 3rd places from the groups just get whichever slot is remaining that explained it perfectly, thank you Cure and GuMi got their work cut out for them, having to prepare for 3 matchups in the RO6. DRG and herO only have to prepare for 2 This is precisely why I dislike the new format. Starleague leans more towards prep, at least for the knockout phase (but I recall in some of the OSL/MSL in BW, group matches were spaced out over days so that players don't play multiple matches against different opponents in a day). Now the RO6 has adopted a weekender format. I appreciate the extra difficulty for those fighting their way up from 3rd place. the disavantage feels justified because it's based on RO10 results. if 3rd vs 3rd winner beats 2nd vs 2nd loser, then it is a decisively the best player who got through
It's not about the difficulty for 3rd place finishers. It's just about Starleague format for knockout rounds being about players prepping for a week towards a single match. That's all.
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hyped for the ro6 tonight!
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can only mods create the gsl thread? I tried to copy an old one and only change the picture links, but the formatting was completely messed up
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On October 03 2022 18:04 SHODAN wrote: can only mods create the gsl thread? I tried to copy an old one and only change the picture links, but the formatting was completely messed up just create one without the fancy formatting I was about to do it, but if you want to then you should!
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This playoffs you can really feel how thin the toss roster in Korea is, basically hero and creator currently and creator ain't the most consistent so basically herO or bust, one bad day is rip :/
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