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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 18 2021 16:12 GMT
#321
Gg astrea, a bit disappointed by rogue, I don't like this bane/ravagers style if you don't attack the toss as soon as you got 200 pop...
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 18 2021 16:27 GMT
#322
C'mon Rogue T.T
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 18 2021 16:33 GMT
#323
A worthy effort, but futile.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-18 16:36:00
September 18 2021 16:34 GMT
#324
Astrea crushed the lurkers in a pretty impressive way, against no upgraded corru his skytoss should have been able to win but he was so passive with it, and staying on the fifth below a cliff doesn't do the trick :S
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-18 16:39:02
September 18 2021 16:37 GMT
#325
People always bitch about Protoss late-game vZ but I've yet to see any Toss win vs a Zerg in late-game convincingly other than Neeb big-braining a new strategy vs Scarlett in the NA finals.
Anything else just gets rolled over by Zerg
So why are we complaining about Protoss late game? Unless everyone is memeing and I'm just getting r/woosh'd
Faker is the GOAT!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
September 18 2021 16:40 GMT
#326
On September 19 2021 01:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
People always bitch about Protoss late-game vZ but I've yet to see any Toss win vs a Zerg in late-game convincingly other than Neeb big-braining a new strategy vs Scarlett in the NA finals.
Anything else just gets rolled over by Zerg
So why are we complaining about Protoss late game? Unless everyone is memeing and I'm just getting r/woosh'd


Because Toss has the most players in GM which obviously means they are broken. Oh and Serral lost a few ZvPs this year. (Sarcasm but it is the real logic used by people who think Toss is op)
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-18 16:42:31
September 18 2021 16:41 GMT
#327
On September 19 2021 01:40 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2021 01:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
People always bitch about Protoss late-game vZ but I've yet to see any Toss win vs a Zerg in late-game convincingly other than Neeb big-braining a new strategy vs Scarlett in the NA finals.
Anything else just gets rolled over by Zerg
So why are we complaining about Protoss late game? Unless everyone is memeing and I'm just getting r/woosh'd


Because Toss has the most players in GM which obviously means they are broken. Oh and Serral lost a few ZvPs this year. (Sarcasm but it is the real logic used by people who think Toss is op)

LMAO I get that, I'm not trying to balance whine here but like, objectively watching pros play late game Z > P by a long shot for the last god knows how many years.
Faker is the GOAT!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
September 18 2021 16:46 GMT
#328
On September 19 2021 01:41 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2021 01:40 JJH777 wrote:
On September 19 2021 01:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
People always bitch about Protoss late-game vZ but I've yet to see any Toss win vs a Zerg in late-game convincingly other than Neeb big-braining a new strategy vs Scarlett in the NA finals.
Anything else just gets rolled over by Zerg
So why are we complaining about Protoss late game? Unless everyone is memeing and I'm just getting r/woosh'd


Because Toss has the most players in GM which obviously means they are broken. Oh and Serral lost a few ZvPs this year. (Sarcasm but it is the real logic used by people who think Toss is op)

LMAO I get that, I'm not trying to balance whine here but like, objectively watching pros play late game Z > P by a long shot for the last god knows how many years.


Well you know it's obvious that Serral/Reynor/Rogue/Dark and even players like Solar/soo are all just so much better than any Toss player that they should all have 90% winrates in ZvP. It's just player skill.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-18 16:47:54
September 18 2021 16:47 GMT
#329
On September 19 2021 01:46 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2021 01:41 AzAlexZ wrote:
On September 19 2021 01:40 JJH777 wrote:
On September 19 2021 01:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
People always bitch about Protoss late-game vZ but I've yet to see any Toss win vs a Zerg in late-game convincingly other than Neeb big-braining a new strategy vs Scarlett in the NA finals.
Anything else just gets rolled over by Zerg
So why are we complaining about Protoss late game? Unless everyone is memeing and I'm just getting r/woosh'd


Because Toss has the most players in GM which obviously means they are broken. Oh and Serral lost a few ZvPs this year. (Sarcasm but it is the real logic used by people who think Toss is op)

LMAO I get that, I'm not trying to balance whine here but like, objectively watching pros play late game Z > P by a long shot for the last god knows how many years.


Well you know it's obvious that Serral/Reynor/Rogue/Dark and even players like Solar/soo are all just so much better than any Toss player that they should all have 90% winrates in ZvP. It's just player skill.

Yeah no, you're right. I honestly should just shut up and stop cheering on P and T pretenders. Time to bow down to your infinite wisdom.
Faker is the GOAT!
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 18 2021 16:53 GMT
#330
Zest is Best
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
September 18 2021 16:55 GMT
#331
On September 19 2021 01:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
People always bitch about Protoss late-game vZ but I've yet to see any Toss win vs a Zerg in late-game convincingly other than Neeb big-braining a new strategy vs Scarlett in the NA finals.
Anything else just gets rolled over by Zerg
So why are we complaining about Protoss late game? Unless everyone is memeing and I'm just getting r/woosh'd

it's not op but I think it's lame that the Protoss can just sit there with Voidrays and the Zerg has to either Queen walk or accept a 30-40 minute snooze-fest
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
September 18 2021 17:05 GMT
#332
Serral's cam freezing is more entertaining then this game LMAO
Faker is the GOAT!
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-18 17:11:38
September 18 2021 17:09 GMT
#333
Parting approaching Interceptor Bankruptcy.

EDIT: Nevermind, Serral just kills all the Carriers.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 18 2021 17:10 GMT
#334
BL infestor is just so lame to watch
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
September 18 2021 17:11 GMT
#335
Meh, even though I like Serral this wasn't exactly the most entertaining game. Kinda reminds me of the BL/Infestor era. *shivers*
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 18 2021 17:12 GMT
#336
On September 19 2021 01:47 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2021 01:46 JJH777 wrote:
On September 19 2021 01:41 AzAlexZ wrote:
On September 19 2021 01:40 JJH777 wrote:
On September 19 2021 01:37 AzAlexZ wrote:
People always bitch about Protoss late-game vZ but I've yet to see any Toss win vs a Zerg in late-game convincingly other than Neeb big-braining a new strategy vs Scarlett in the NA finals.
Anything else just gets rolled over by Zerg
So why are we complaining about Protoss late game? Unless everyone is memeing and I'm just getting r/woosh'd


Because Toss has the most players in GM which obviously means they are broken. Oh and Serral lost a few ZvPs this year. (Sarcasm but it is the real logic used by people who think Toss is op)

LMAO I get that, I'm not trying to balance whine here but like, objectively watching pros play late game Z > P by a long shot for the last god knows how many years.


Well you know it's obvious that Serral/Reynor/Rogue/Dark and even players like Solar/soo are all just so much better than any Toss player that they should all have 90% winrates in ZvP. It's just player skill.

Yeah no, you're right. I honestly should just shut up and stop cheering on P and T pretenders. Time to bow down to your infinite wisdom.


Lately zerg seems to be winning most of it yes
Which wasn't the case a few months ago
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 18 2021 17:16 GMT
#337
that was sad to watch
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-18 17:17:38
September 18 2021 17:16 GMT
#338
Lol

I like how Lambo mentioned Serral's amazing cannon rush defense a few minutes before that.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1006 Posts
September 18 2021 17:18 GMT
#339
Easy hold there in game2.

Will be interessting to see how Serrals ZvZ is
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 18 2021 17:18 GMT
#340
Gg
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