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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-20 18:49:14
June 20 2021 18:47 GMT
#81
On June 21 2021 03:45 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2021 03:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 21 2021 03:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 21 2021 03:37 stilt wrote:
Lately, I feel like kor zerg have a superior approach to their eu counterpart in this meta.
Anyway, this game was a superb zerg gameplay by Dark, gg


Clem is very stuck to his timings. He has VERY VERY good timings when it comes to traditional ZvT.

Dark doesn't play that way though, and as you point out the meta is shifting in Korea.

So this is him facing his weakness. Can he prevail against it? Let's find out.


I don't really agree. It's not just timings, he keeps on winning all these multi-task focused late games against the EU zergs too (on Romanticide especially). But Dark managed to get the counterattacks in that the EU zergs don't seem able to make work.


Yes I think it's because Dark pumps a lot of ling/bane on 75 and then 80 drones to counterattack while at the same timing Reynor is around 85-90, it seems it allows him to gain the tempo on the game.


That is another thing--sometimes Reynor goes for that style where he has an enormous drone count (over 90 quite often), and it has frankly not been a successful style at all against Clem or the top Korean terrans. With that style his cost-efficiency is much worse than even typical late game ZvT, so I'm not sure why he still goes for it.

edit: Clem's sim-city at the triangle third with all the barracks looks messy but seems effective.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-20 18:51:58
June 20 2021 18:48 GMT
#82
Game 7 here we go!

Edit: maybe I spoke to soon
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 20 2021 18:51 GMT
#83
On June 21 2021 03:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

edit: Clem's sim-city at the triangle third with all the barracks looks messy but seems effective.


Maybe not.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 20 2021 18:52 GMT
#84
On June 21 2021 03:51 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2021 03:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:

edit: Clem's sim-city at the triangle third with all the barracks looks messy but seems effective.


Maybe not.


Effective against runbys. Maybe a bit of a liability in large engagements against ravagers. But Clem could have handled that better--the buildings can lift off when need be.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
June 20 2021 18:53 GMT
#85
Dark casually juggling viper, infestor, ravager mid game againts BIO...
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
June 20 2021 18:54 GMT
#86
Ultra will be hard to stop in this position, can't believe Dark was not dead 10 minutes ago
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
June 20 2021 18:56 GMT
#87
wow Clem almost looks outclassed
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
June 20 2021 18:56 GMT
#88
On June 21 2021 03:53 Shathe wrote:
Dark casually juggling viper, infestor, ravager mid game againts BIO...



It's almost as though people forgot he was THIS FUCKING GOOD. Yes he is nerds. Yes he is!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
June 20 2021 18:56 GMT
#89
Hell yeah, that was awesome!
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 20 2021 18:57 GMT
#90
+3 attack was finally started at the 16th minute for Clem, but it felt too little too late against a Dark who'd had 3/3 for ages.

GG Dark.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-20 18:57:34
June 20 2021 18:57 GMT
#91
Wow!

Just like that Clem lose his first TvZ in 109 days

Great series
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 20 2021 18:57 GMT
#92
Really fun series, a much more exciting day than yesterday, in my opinion.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
June 20 2021 18:57 GMT
#93
koreans gotta korea. Really surprised by the level up showed by Dark
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Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
June 20 2021 18:58 GMT
#94
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 20 2021 18:58 GMT
#95
All hail the Dark lord, that was mindblowing really
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
June 20 2021 18:58 GMT
#96
It's official. Clem isn't good enough to beat Code A players in GSL. ;P
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
June 20 2021 18:58 GMT
#97
Clem outplayed in TvZ , great thing to witness
allmotor1
Profile Joined December 2017
153 Posts
June 20 2021 18:58 GMT
#98
On June 21 2021 03:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2021 03:53 Shathe wrote:
Dark casually juggling viper, infestor, ravager mid game againts BIO...



It's almost as though people forgot he was THIS FUCKING GOOD. Yes he is nerds. Yes he is!



dark always and will be a beast.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
June 20 2021 18:58 GMT
#99
Dark played out of his mind! That was freaking amazing series by Dark, absolutely mind-blowing performance by Dark.

I also do agree that Clem has also got into the heads of Serral/Reynor. They keep playing the same way against him, which is clearly not working. Dark brought the chaos against Clem, and he couldn't deal with it.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33599 Posts
June 20 2021 18:59 GMT
#100
Dark just wanted the toughest possible lower bracket run again
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