EPTTSL 7 - Upper Bracket Round 1&2 & Losers Round 1 - Page 2
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Vindicare605
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 14 2021 01:35 Vindicare605 wrote: One thing I like about Juan is that he carries a grudge. He hates losing to the same player twice. Historically he's also been really good at playing against Has too--preparing well, and making sure to be proactive and prevent Has from doing his own thing (which is much better than the defensive approach that some players take against notoriously tricky players like Has, which only gives them more leeway to do their own thing). edit: Oh and that's three falses for TLO's predictions. | ||
Nakajin
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Vindicare605
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EDIT: Nice of Zoun to donate him a game though. Not surprising considering that map isn't in the GSL pool. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 14 2021 02:19 Vindicare605 wrote: Maxpax giving it his all but he's just in a different weight class by the look of it. EDIT: Nice of Zoun to donate him a game though. Not surprising considering that map isn't in the GSL pool. Liquipedia says that Zoun has a 0% winrate on Beckett--he's 0-7 on it now in tournaments, so maybe he's just not good with it. | ||
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Vindicare605
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 14 2021 02:46 Vindicare605 wrote: On the plus side. Winner's bracket looks super fun now. Every match seems like it could be interesting. Going to be curious to see which version of Zest shows up. Zest has recently been playing some pretty nonsensical stuff recently (even more than usual), so hopefully he puts up a good fight. | ||
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Vindicare605
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On June 14 2021 02:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Liquipedia says that Zoun has a 0% winrate on Beckett--he's 0-7 on it now in tournaments, so maybe he's just not good with it. Well he hasn't had to practice on it for the GSL qualifiers, and I'll make the bet that it won't be in the GSL map pool and even if it is it will be heavily vetoed. So only in tournaments like these where Zoun doesn't play a lot anyway does he need to worry about it. Wouldn't surprise me if he had it vetoed on ladder too. It really is a horrible map for Protoss. If it was a more standard map it would surprise me a lot more, but considering what it is, it wouldn't surprise me at all if I learned that he just doesn't practice it. | ||
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Vindicare605
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On June 14 2021 02:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Zest has recently been playing some pretty nonsensical stuff recently (even more than usual), so hopefully he puts up a good fight. Well Zest is an innovator one of the few that Protoss really has. He'll stumble around in the dark and then occasionally find something he just blows everyone away with, until it becomes standard practice. Blink DT late game (vs Terran especially) and the standard Adept timing builds were two recent things he was responsible for. | ||
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Nakajin
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Ciaus_Dronu
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ZigguratOfUr
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Vindicare605
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Vindicare605
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Morbidius
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darklycid
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Vindicare605
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On June 14 2021 03:14 Morbidius wrote: How does Terran even defend against a player with good blink micro on romanticide? That's what I'm saying! You can't. Not if they are able to transition like that either. Terrans need to start vetoing that map. So far it's only Trap that's abusing it but it won't be long before every Protoss notices and starts copying it. | ||
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buzz_bender
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On June 14 2021 03:23 Vindicare605 wrote: Terrans need to start vetoing that map. So far it's only Trap that's abusing it but it won't be long before every Protoss notices and starts copying it. I'm surprised that it took so long for Protosses to notice that. I distinctly remember PartinG did his blink stalkers strat on this map some time ago. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 14 2021 03:23 Vindicare605 wrote: That's what I'm saying! You can't. Not if they are able to transition like that either. Terrans need to start vetoing that map. So far it's only Trap that's abusing it but it won't be long before every Protoss notices and starts copying it. The most common veto for Terran currently in TvP bo5s is Jagannatha I think? I'm not sure why that is. Apart from Beckett which is noticeably better for terran the other maps seem pretty similar. Jagannatha and Romanticide are a bit better for Protoss, but not by a lot, so I'd have expected a bit more variety in vetoes based on personal taste. | ||
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Vindicare605
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On June 14 2021 03:28 buzz_bender wrote: I'm surprised that it took so long for Protosses to notice that. I distinctly remember PartinG did his blink stalkers strat on this map some time ago. Parting didn't have the follow up that Trap does. He tries to go for the kill more often and doesn't have Trap's discipline in his build order and follow up. The way Trap is using that map is practically bullet proof. You have to pray Trap screws up and over commits because as long as he doesn't he is SURE to get ahead and if you try and counter pressure he can commit and kill you. It's a brutal build on that map. I just can't see a way out of it, Maru put up as valiant an effort as you can, both maps he played against that in GSL Season 1 and Super Tournament but Trap still won convincingly. | ||
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