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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 14 2020 16:22 GMT
#701
finally a room to observe
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
November 14 2020 16:22 GMT
#702
On November 15 2020 01:22 Penev wrote:
finally a room to observe


Are Finnish doors all so narrow?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 14 2020 16:24 GMT
#703
On November 15 2020 01:22 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 01:22 Penev wrote:
finally a room to observe


Are Finnish doors all so narrow?

I feel this was answered last time it was brought up but I forgot
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-14 16:26:15
November 14 2020 16:26 GMT
#704
Serral has won so much money and was gifted a plot of land by his home town and he still plays SC2 from a closet under the stairs
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
November 14 2020 16:26 GMT
#705
How did Neeb 3-0 TY? At least it'll stop the weak protoss narrative but still disappointed for TY. No eu kr cross server TvZ is gucci though
WriterMaru
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4135 Posts
November 14 2020 16:26 GMT
#706
On November 15 2020 01:26 Elentos wrote:
Serral has won so much money and was gifted a plot of land by his home town and he still plays SC2 from a closet


Well reynor plays sc2 from the barn, so its not that bad
Drone is a way of living
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
November 14 2020 16:26 GMT
#707
wtf Serral is a TL.net Korean fanboy
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3562 Posts
November 14 2020 16:26 GMT
#708
On November 15 2020 01:26 Poopi wrote:
How did Neeb 3-0 TY? At least it'll stop the weak protoss narrative but still disappointed for TY. No eu kr cross server TvZ is gucci though

TY played like trash.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16102 Posts
November 14 2020 16:27 GMT
#709
On November 15 2020 01:24 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 01:22 Waxangel wrote:
On November 15 2020 01:22 Penev wrote:
finally a room to observe


Are Finnish doors all so narrow?

I feel this was answered last time it was brought up but I forgot

he has a small door so he can easily block hellion runbys
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
November 14 2020 16:27 GMT
#710
On November 15 2020 01:20 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 01:18 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On November 15 2020 01:08 Xain0n wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:45 ilax30 wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:43 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:42 ilax30 wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:39 travis wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:36 Jacenoob wrote:
On November 15 2020 00:34 Penev wrote:
let's start another Serral tilt discussion


Sure! He tilted and gg'ed out of a winnable game. He was behind, but it was not over.


he really did
casters are justifying it but it really wasn't justified. he pretty much just gave up because he thought he was way more behind than he was. they talk about him not having drones but didnt he have more workers?


So Serral had 7 more drones but you have to look at the infrastructure. Serral only had a roach warren, no bane nest, still on hatch tec. He saw Time had combat shields, stim, medivacs and a 3rd CC. So its not like he can drone up massively as he was about about to be dropped by 16 stim+combat marines so he needed to make roaches to defend.

And then Time was even busy getting his 1-1 up, dunno if Serral knew about that. So all in all, the game really was over.

I stand by it, I have seen players come back from worse positions


Yes I have seen players throw insane games as well in all my years of watching. But as a Serral you are not going to stay in every game untill you have 5 supply left. The game was 95% over, so Serral just wanted to go to the next game. Barely any pro leaves when the game is 99.9% over.


I remember a WCS game in which Serral came back from a 80 supply deficit against HM, it was nearly unwinnable.
Serral is less clutch this year and evidently more prone to tilting and early gging; while it's bad for him, it may be good for Sc2.
I hope he finds his best shape in time for Katowice, by the way.


Nah, I feel like Reynor really created a dent in Serral's mental strength this year and that shows across the board with a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes, weird build orders, tilts and miscalculations. I do believe, that getting back to offline environment will make things look different, one way or another.



it might be this, but it might also just be stagnation. when someone hits the top, it can be tough to stay motivated to continue to find edges.. particularly in a mental game. it's easier to climb than to stay on top I guess, because those above you push you forward. just my take on it.


That's what separates the boys from bonjwas like Flash and Magnus Carlsen...
gg no re thx
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 14 2020 16:27 GMT
#711
On November 15 2020 01:26 Poopi wrote:
How did Neeb 3-0 TY? At least it'll stop the weak protoss narrative but still disappointed for TY. No eu kr cross server TvZ is gucci though

TY tried to lose, he succeeded
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 14 2020 16:28 GMT
#712
On November 15 2020 01:26 Waxangel wrote:
wtf Serral is a TL.net Korean fanboy

What did he say
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
November 14 2020 16:28 GMT
#713
On November 15 2020 01:27 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 01:26 Poopi wrote:
How did Neeb 3-0 TY? At least it'll stop the weak protoss narrative but still disappointed for TY. No eu kr cross server TvZ is gucci though

TY tried to lose, he succeeded


I think even if he played cleaner, he lost the build order fights so hard he would have lost anyway
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-14 16:29:44
November 14 2020 16:29 GMT
#714
On November 15 2020 01:28 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 01:26 Waxangel wrote:
wtf Serral is a TL.net Korean fanboy

What did he say


blah blah not actually HUGE upsets blah blah everyone can lose now and then blah blah who knows how much the Koreans are practicing

one of us! one of us!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 14 2020 16:30 GMT
#715
at least statsuu is going to give us his all right?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 14 2020 16:33 GMT
#716
On November 15 2020 01:29 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 01:28 Elentos wrote:
On November 15 2020 01:26 Waxangel wrote:
wtf Serral is a TL.net Korean fanboy

What did he say


blah blah not actually HUGE upsets blah blah everyone can lose now and then blah blah who knows how much the Koreans are practicing

one of us! one of us!


Well not exactly, if he were a TL.net korean fanboy he'd have proclaimed himself a fraud and that koreans have been playing blindsided at 5 AM with 900 ping after not having touched the game for weeks.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
November 14 2020 16:34 GMT
#717
On November 15 2020 01:33 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 01:29 Waxangel wrote:
On November 15 2020 01:28 Elentos wrote:
On November 15 2020 01:26 Waxangel wrote:
wtf Serral is a TL.net Korean fanboy

What did he say


blah blah not actually HUGE upsets blah blah everyone can lose now and then blah blah who knows how much the Koreans are practicing

one of us! one of us!


Well not exactly, if he were a TL.net korean fanboy he'd have proclaimed himself a fraud and that koreans have been playing blindsided at 5 AM with 900 ping after not having touched the game for weeks.


there's plenty of opportunity to elaborate in future interviews
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 14 2020 16:38 GMT
#718
Watching Neeb go skytoss against Serral every game might be fun--depends on if Serral is willing to deal with the headache of the lategame that all the Zergs are complaining about, or if he just kills Neeb with timings.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
November 14 2020 16:38 GMT
#719
Gogo Statsu
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
November 14 2020 16:38 GMT
#720
On November 15 2020 01:24 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 01:22 Waxangel wrote:
On November 15 2020 01:22 Penev wrote:
finally a room to observe


Are Finnish doors all so narrow?

I feel this was answered last time it was brought up but I forgot


A salute to their knives perhaps?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
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