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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-27 23:57:25
November 27 2020 23:56 GMT
#261
Well, this was bad, really bad play form Stats. I hope Wardi comes here and gonna say to us that this was peak Stats and Koreans are used to play as late as this. I chose the one great match to validate my decision to not watch this Sad for Stats, but as long as he's using this VR build he should be eliminated.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
November 27 2020 23:57 GMT
#262
This was at a bad time for reynor as well, yet he still managed to win. Kudo’s to the Italian!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 27 2020 23:57 GMT
#263
On November 28 2020 08:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Well, this was bad, really bad play form Stats. I hope Wardi comes here and gonna say to us that this was peak Stats and Koreans are used to play as late as this. I chose the one great match to validate my decision to not watch this Sad for Stats, but as long as he's using this VR build he should be eliminated.

9 in the morning, no prob
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-28 00:00:09
November 27 2020 23:58 GMT
#264
On November 28 2020 08:57 ilax30 wrote:
This was at a bad time for reynor as well, yet he still managed to win. Kudo’s to the Italian!

Yeah, compare midnight to staying awake the whole night. WTF?

On November 28 2020 08:57 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 08:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Well, this was bad, really bad play form Stats. I hope Wardi comes here and gonna say to us that this was peak Stats and Koreans are used to play as late as this. I chose the one great match to validate my decision to not watch this Sad for Stats, but as long as he's using this VR build he should be eliminated.

9 in the morning, no prob

Well of course, if you say it like that without the details it sounds like the time selection was actually worse for Reynor. How stupid of me!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 27 2020 23:59 GMT
#265
Stats please, you're already dead D:
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 28 2020 00:01 GMT
#266
I feel sorry for all koreans in the later groups. Hopefully tomorrow will go faster .
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
596 Posts
November 28 2020 00:02 GMT
#267
On November 28 2020 08:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Well, this was bad, really bad play form Stats. I hope Wardi comes here and gonna say to us that this was peak Stats and Koreans are used to play as late as this. I chose the one great match to validate my decision to not watch this Sad for Stats, but as long as he's using this VR build he should be eliminated.


Idk what your problem is, I've never defended Koreans having to play at 9am, I talk about them having to play at 1-2am, but yeah lets pretend I'm an idiot and take my arguments out of context lol.
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NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-28 00:04:13
November 28 2020 00:02 GMT
#268
this was underwhelming


On November 28 2020 09:02 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 08:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Well, this was bad, really bad play form Stats. I hope Wardi comes here and gonna say to us that this was peak Stats and Koreans are used to play as late as this. I chose the one great match to validate my decision to not watch this Sad for Stats, but as long as he's using this VR build he should be eliminated.


Idk what your problem is, I've never defended Koreans having to play at 9am, I talk about them having to play at 1-2am, but yeah lets pretend I'm an idiot and take my arguments out of context lol.


hey wardi, great casting, cheers!
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4041 Posts
November 28 2020 00:06 GMT
#269
On November 28 2020 09:02 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 08:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Well, this was bad, really bad play form Stats. I hope Wardi comes here and gonna say to us that this was peak Stats and Koreans are used to play as late as this. I chose the one great match to validate my decision to not watch this Sad for Stats, but as long as he's using this VR build he should be eliminated.


Idk what your problem is, I've never defended Koreans having to play at 9am, I talk about them having to play at 1-2am, but yeah lets pretend I'm an idiot and take my arguments out of context lol.


yeah that person has gone too far with his timezone agenda
Drone is a way of living
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-28 00:17:57
November 28 2020 00:11 GMT
#270
On November 28 2020 09:02 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 08:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Well, this was bad, really bad play form Stats. I hope Wardi comes here and gonna say to us that this was peak Stats and Koreans are used to play as late as this. I chose the one great match to validate my decision to not watch this Sad for Stats, but as long as he's using this VR build he should be eliminated.


Idk what your problem is, I've never defended Koreans having to play at 9am, I talk about them having to play at 1-2am, but yeah lets pretend I'm an idiot and take my arguments out of context lol.

You want to know what's my problem? Besides this was a semi-obvious joke you missed? Every time anybody said that Koreans playing late at night is disadvantageous, people came here and said that Wardi said they're fine with it.

Editus> ALso can you exdplain the breaks after the game 1 and 2? (IIRC) They didn't have any sense, why did they happen? Any idea? (before anybody gets touchy about this, just asking him)

(it was really meant as a joke this time, as I wrote, STats chose a build that's IMO tragic and as such he should be eliminated by any serious zerg, especially in BO5)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
November 28 2020 00:20 GMT
#271
This is in no way an insult to Wardiii, who did a solid job, but why would you hire three casters and then make one of them solo cast 90% of the games?
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
November 28 2020 01:03 GMT
#272
On November 28 2020 09:20 QOGQOG wrote:
This is in no way an insult to Wardiii, who did a solid job, but why would you hire three casters and then make one of them solo cast 90% of the games?


They flew Rotti and Demu out to sweden as well. They must make some good burgers
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
November 28 2020 02:21 GMT
#273
Am I the only one that can see the next match times on liquipedia, but not under "Upcoming Events"?
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
November 28 2020 05:13 GMT
#274
Is there any premium international game start at 1:00 a.m. Europe time and end at 6:00 a.m.?
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
November 28 2020 06:04 GMT
#275
On November 28 2020 14:13 pzlama333 wrote:
Is there any premium international game start at 1:00 a.m. Europe time and end at 6:00 a.m.?


No. As mentioned numerous times elsewhere by numerous posters, these online events are never scheduled to the advantage of the Koreans, with the exception of King of Battles, which started at about 7pm Korean time in their group stages.
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
November 28 2020 07:07 GMT
#276
On November 28 2020 09:02 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 08:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Well, this was bad, really bad play form Stats. I hope Wardi comes here and gonna say to us that this was peak Stats and Koreans are used to play as late as this. I chose the one great match to validate my decision to not watch this Sad for Stats, but as long as he's using this VR build he should be eliminated.


Idk what your problem is, I've never defended Koreans having to play at 9am, I talk about them having to play at 1-2am, but yeah lets pretend I'm an idiot and take my arguments out of context lol.


Never argue with Deacon xD He is not all there, and also is an extreme korean elitist. So you’ll always find him downplay any advantage a korean will have and be dramatic about any advantage a foreigner would have so he can keep reinforcing his beliefs!
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 28 2020 08:17 GMT
#277
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
November 28 2020 09:12 GMT
#278
Nothing to be surprised by. Tournaments are primarily scheduled around their audience, fairness for the players isn't the primary concern and things get scheduled as they would be if an event was offline, even if the players are from all over the world. While it would be nice for the most affected players (not just Koreans have bad time zones for most events) to get to play an international event that starts before 9 pm their time, that'd be too big viewership losses considering where the core audiences are.

And cases like this where a tournament schedule is so tight that things go from 9 pm to 9 am are thankfully not common.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 28 2020 10:11 GMT
#279
On November 28 2020 18:12 Elentos wrote:
Nothing to be surprised by. Tournaments are primarily scheduled around their audience, fairness for the players isn't the primary concern and things get scheduled as they would be if an event was offline, even if the players are from all over the world. While it would be nice for the most affected players (not just Koreans have bad time zones for most events) to get to play an international event that starts before 9 pm their time, that'd be too big viewership losses considering where the core audiences are.

And cases like this where a tournament schedule is so tight that things go from 9 pm to 9 am are thankfully not common.

The start time would have been fine, if they did only one Group per day or only Bo3s.
Two Bo5 Groups are just taking way to long.
MaxPax
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
November 28 2020 11:42 GMT
#280
On November 28 2020 19:11 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2020 18:12 Elentos wrote:
Nothing to be surprised by. Tournaments are primarily scheduled around their audience, fairness for the players isn't the primary concern and things get scheduled as they would be if an event was offline, even if the players are from all over the world. While it would be nice for the most affected players (not just Koreans have bad time zones for most events) to get to play an international event that starts before 9 pm their time, that'd be too big viewership losses considering where the core audiences are.

And cases like this where a tournament schedule is so tight that things go from 9 pm to 9 am are thankfully not common.

The start time would have been fine, if they did only one Group per day or only Bo3s.
Two Bo5 Groups are just taking way to long.

Yeah, it's really not ideal. The problem is that most viewers are from NA/EU, if they would go for more Korean friendly hours (morning in EU), viewership would drop significantly. Stats did play quite well, but not to his usual level.

Yesterday I thought a bit about Wardi's casting and I came to the following conclusion:
It's okay. And that's meant as a huge compliment. There are casters with a "larger" personality, but Wardi is just pleasant to listen to. He narrates the game well, doesn't go for early calls too often and sticks to his strengths. He also can team up with basically anybody. And he's putting in mad hours.
Still, I think it's a bit harsh to let him cast for 10 hours straight, even though he has done it before. Was there given a reason why Rotti/Demu only were hosting at the studio?
first we make expand, then we defense it.
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