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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
October 10 2020 18:46 GMT
#401
Innovation's Raven control was pretty lacking
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 10 2020 18:46 GMT
#402
On October 11 2020 03:45 Poopi wrote:
Greatest of all time against French prodigy tomorrow, great!
I don't know how Maru always manages to come back, super impressive
Total domination


I wonder if it was somewhat intentional given his composition (heavy air / massing Ravens) - he would play defensive for a while until he reached a critical mass of Ravens and could start banking energy
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 10 2020 18:47 GMT
#403
Oh shit, just realized the top 4 are all Terrans. Throwback to 2011 lol
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 10 2020 18:47 GMT
#404
On October 11 2020 02:35 parksonsc wrote:
I dont know how ppl praise TY's TvT so much, as far as i remember Inno has been the best TvT for the last 2 years.


In HOTS it was always Maru>TY>Inno >Maru.
Then TY became an unstoppable TvT monster....
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
October 10 2020 18:48 GMT
#405
1st maru vs clem tomorrow ?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
October 10 2020 18:48 GMT
#406
On October 11 2020 03:46 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 03:45 Poopi wrote:
Greatest of all time against French prodigy tomorrow, great!
I don't know how Maru always manages to come back, super impressive
Total domination


I wonder if it was somewhat intentional given his composition (heavy air / massing Ravens) - he would play defensive for a while until he reached a critical mass of Ravens and could start banking energy

I think INno really wanted to sleep as has been pointed out, the guy had a GSL group against GSL champions / Trap ffs .
But yeah Maru has shown such defensive TvT recently, against ByuN on this exact same map
WriterMaru
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
October 10 2020 18:49 GMT
#407
On October 11 2020 03:48 JohnMatrix wrote:
1st maru vs clem tomorrow ?

nope, Cure - TY first
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
October 10 2020 18:49 GMT
#408
On October 11 2020 03:44 Supah wrote:
I don't quite understand how Innovation seems to consistently let his tanks get Raven'd. Is that just lack of vision because he lost air, so then his marines can't be in the proper place quickly enough?


It is because Maru's raven play is absolutely amazing. His style is to mostly skip medivacs early to get the air control and then keep it until his army is too strong to handle, even though it might take a while to get there. I don't think anyone has solved his tvt style yet, and he should be the favorite to win this.
Buff the siegetank
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 10 2020 18:50 GMT
#409
I think this may be the 4th time in a row Maru beating Inno and kinda easily as well. Who would have thought? Inno always had Marus number, his style looked like a hardcounter to Maru for years and now the tides have turned massively.

Happy to see Maru in the finals I hope it's against TY. Against Cure it would be too one sided
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
October 10 2020 18:51 GMT
#410
On October 11 2020 03:49 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 03:48 JohnMatrix wrote:
1st maru vs clem tomorrow ?

nope, Cure - TY first


i would say 1st time ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 18:52:31
October 10 2020 18:51 GMT
#411
On October 11 2020 03:47 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 02:35 parksonsc wrote:
I dont know how ppl praise TY's TvT so much, as far as i remember Inno has been the best TvT for the last 2 years.


In HOTS it was always Maru>TY>Inno >Maru.
Then TY became an unstoppable TvT monster....

In HotS it was Inno > TY >= Maru > Inno. In LotV it's been TY > Inno > Maru >= TY.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
October 10 2020 18:53 GMT
#412
On October 11 2020 03:51 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 03:49 Penev wrote:
On October 11 2020 03:48 JohnMatrix wrote:
1st maru vs clem tomorrow ?

nope, Cure - TY first


i would say 1st time ?

yes
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 10 2020 18:53 GMT
#413
In all three matchups is Maru just playing defensive until every base is taken and he's somehow 20K resources ahead?

It's not as flashy as the aggressive micro plays he used to be known for, but I doubt he's capable of doing those right now/anymore.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
October 10 2020 18:53 GMT
#414
TY Maru finals incoming for sure
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 10 2020 18:54 GMT
#415
TY wasn't even a top contender in HotS
very illegal and very uncool
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
October 10 2020 18:55 GMT
#416
On October 11 2020 03:53 Fango wrote:
In all three matchups is Maru just playing defensive until every base is taken and he's somehow 20K resources ahead?

It's not really somehow what with people throwing themselves into his defensive positions. Especially Inno did it with reckless abandon. But yeah after the early game his play doesn't really look Maru-esque. Cure played TvZ like one would expect from Maru.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1226 Posts
October 10 2020 18:57 GMT
#417
TvT zzzzzzz..........
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
October 10 2020 18:58 GMT
#418
On October 11 2020 03:57 Kashim wrote:
TvT zzzzzzz..........

No, no Z, that's the novelty in this top 4. I thought Liquipedia staff would know better
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 10 2020 19:15 GMT
#419
On October 11 2020 03:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 03:53 Fango wrote:
In all three matchups is Maru just playing defensive until every base is taken and he's somehow 20K resources ahead?

It's not really somehow what with people throwing themselves into his defensive positions. Especially Inno did it with reckless abandon. But yeah after the early game his play doesn't really look Maru-esque. Cure played TvZ like one would expect from Maru.

To be fair, in a lot of these games had it been any other terran they would have lost. Like vs Serral on Pillars of Gold or vs PartinG on Ice and Chrome. No one else is holding on in those games.

But here INno just started throwing armies away without thinking. His TvT does live and die by hitting his macro and pushing with marine-tank, but it's not like Maru has a win condition of hitting the 15 minute mark.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 19:22:22
October 10 2020 19:21 GMT
#420
On October 11 2020 03:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 03:57 Kashim wrote:
TvT zzzzzzz..........

No, no Z, that's the novelty in this top 4. I thought Liquipedia staff would know better


I mean, it‘s fine and well deserved, but I think full mirror Ro4 are generally speaking not the most entertaining stuff for many players. For obvious reasons. How often did that even happen in premier tournaments? I can‘t remember any ZvZvZvZ or PvPvPvP Ro4 and for TvTvTvT it‘s been 9 years.
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