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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-16 18:22:57
September 16 2020 18:21 GMT
#281
On September 17 2020 03:21 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 03:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 03:17 ZombieGrub wrote:
On September 17 2020 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Meanwhile Russian caster correctly points out that microbial shroud would make Hydras immune to carrier damage.


Immune?

He pointed out that microbial shroud applies before armor.

Interceptors at the time had +1, so they did 6x2. Microbial shroud makes that 3x2, and Hydras had +3 armor in a certain timing before base trade. So, not immune but 1 damage every few seconds per interceptor is close enough.

Anyways, we just watched how 3-3 hydra was completely impotent against 0-1 carriers. Maybe Reynor did have a point about lategame ZvP.


That's not immune, it's always .5 damage minimum.

The carriers had +2.

Carriers had +2 during the base trade, but before that there was a big spore+hydra fight where hydra had 3-3 against +1.

Anyways point is, this was a very rare game where microbial shroud might have been outright game winning.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 16 2020 18:22 GMT
#282
On September 17 2020 03:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 03:17 ZombieGrub wrote:
On September 17 2020 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Meanwhile Russian caster correctly points out that microbial shroud would make Hydras immune to carrier damage.


Immune?

He pointed out that microbial shroud applies before armor.

Interceptors at the time had +1, so they did 6x2. Microbial shroud makes that 3x2, and Hydras had +3 armor in a certain timing before base trade. So, not immune but 1 damage every few seconds per interceptor is close enough.

Anyways, we just watched how 3-3 hydra was completely impotent against 0-1 carriers. Maybe Reynor did have a point about lategame ZvP.


Yeah you never get to zero damage. Even with all the armor in the world you still take 0.5 a shot.

And get stormed to death in the case of microbial shroud.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2663 Posts
September 16 2020 18:25 GMT
#283
On September 17 2020 03:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 03:17 ZombieGrub wrote:
On September 17 2020 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Meanwhile Russian caster correctly points out that microbial shroud would make Hydras immune to carrier damage.


Immune?

He pointed out that microbial shroud applies before armor.

Interceptors at the time had +1, so they did 6x2. Microbial shroud makes that 3x2, and Hydras had +3 armor in a certain timing before base trade. So, not immune but 1 damage every few seconds per interceptor is close enough.

Anyways, we just watched how 3-3 hydra was completely impotent against 0-1 carriers. Maybe Reynor did have a point about lategame ZvP.


DRG kept throwing armies to storm, that fight on the ramp was disastrous but zerg can remax on the spot and still made it closer than it should.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2020 18:26 GMT
#284
On September 17 2020 03:25 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 03:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 03:17 ZombieGrub wrote:
On September 17 2020 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Meanwhile Russian caster correctly points out that microbial shroud would make Hydras immune to carrier damage.


Immune?

He pointed out that microbial shroud applies before armor.

Interceptors at the time had +1, so they did 6x2. Microbial shroud makes that 3x2, and Hydras had +3 armor in a certain timing before base trade. So, not immune but 1 damage every few seconds per interceptor is close enough.

Anyways, we just watched how 3-3 hydra was completely impotent against 0-1 carriers. Maybe Reynor did have a point about lategame ZvP.


DRG kept throwing armies to storm, that fight on the ramp was disastrous but zerg can remax on the spot and still made it closer than it should.

Oh, please, **** off with pointless whine, keep it for games where zerg actually wins.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
September 16 2020 18:31 GMT
#285
Statsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 16 2020 18:31 GMT
#286
Final game of the day and Stats finally does something entirely different
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2020 18:31 GMT
#287
On September 17 2020 03:31 Elentos wrote:
Final game of the day and Stats finally does something entirely different

Well, final game is important after all :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
September 16 2020 18:31 GMT
#288
Big RIP
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
September 16 2020 18:31 GMT
#289
On September 17 2020 03:31 sneakyfox wrote:
Statsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

uuuuuuUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
September 16 2020 18:32 GMT
#290
After eight games of turtle he finally went for it, nice timing
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 16 2020 18:32 GMT
#291
DRG didn't respect that attack at all.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
September 16 2020 18:33 GMT
#292
On September 17 2020 02:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 02:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:33 slant wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hate everything about this group...


You really think Nice having a .01% chance to take a game off of DRG was because of balance?

huh? I don't give a fuck about Nice. I just hate that Stats and DRG can't both advance


Well the Problem is, that they gave Special a Tier 2 seed ans DRG a Tier 3 Seed, so you can have Reynor together with 2 Koreans.
If you Swap Special and DRG the Groups would have looked a hell lot more even.
Now Group B is by far the hardest and Group C by far the easiest

Well that's just silly
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-16 18:34:48
September 16 2020 18:34 GMT
#293
Stats better win this whole thing now... problem is he feels so uninspired in PvZ outside of defending vs roaches tho...
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
September 16 2020 18:43 GMT
#294
Stats is awesome. Going to miss him a lot when he goes army.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia490 Posts
September 16 2020 18:45 GMT
#295
am I crazy or is this background track being used everywhere? Off the top of my head, Wasteland 3, Disco Elysium, and now DH broadcast.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-16 19:12:50
September 16 2020 19:11 GMT
#296
On September 17 2020 03:34 Cricketer12 wrote:
Stats better win this whole thing now... problem is he feels so uninspired in PvZ outside of defending vs roaches tho...


Kind of. He is pretty close to be a one trick pony ar this point. Which is fine for the time being because he‘s good enough to beat most players with it (kind of reminds me of the time PartinG went for thr Soultrain in almost every game and still kept winning. Everyone knew what he was doing, yet almost no one was able to stop it). I just don‘t see him winning any tournaments right now, tbh. It has to be predictable at this point even for the least prepared players around. He should pull a Zoun once in while. Even if it‘s not succesful it helps to avoid being read like a book.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-16 19:54:54
September 16 2020 19:45 GMT
#297
On September 17 2020 03:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 02:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:33 slant wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hate everything about this group...


You really think Nice having a .01% chance to take a game off of DRG was because of balance?

huh? I don't give a fuck about Nice. I just hate that Stats and DRG can't both advance


Well the Problem is, that they gave Special a Tier 2 seed ans DRG a Tier 3 Seed, so you can have Reynor together with 2 Koreans.
If you Swap Special and DRG the Groups would have looked a hell lot more even.
Now Group B is by far the hardest and Group C by far the easiest

Well that's just silly

Looking at Code S Results 2020 it s not.

Also when you compare him with the other Tier 2 Players (Stats, Trap and Inno) he seems quite misplaced there as well. I d rate both Clem and DRG higher than him.
And he isn t that much better than the remaining Tier 3 Players Scarlett and Astrea, so he d fit there quite well.
They both would be as succesfull dominating the LatAm Region as he is, if they swaped places.
MaxPax
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2020 19:49 GMT
#298
On September 17 2020 04:45 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 03:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:33 slant wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hate everything about this group...


You really think Nice having a .01% chance to take a game off of DRG was because of balance?

huh? I don't give a fuck about Nice. I just hate that Stats and DRG can't both advance


Well the Problem is, that they gave Special a Tier 2 seed ans DRG a Tier 3 Seed, so you can have Reynor together with 2 Koreans.
If you Swap Special and DRG the Groups would have looked a hell lot more even.
Now Group B is by far the hardest and Group C by far the easiest

Well that's just silly

Looking at Code S Results 2020 it s not.

What do you mean, exactly?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-16 19:56:55
September 16 2020 19:55 GMT
#299
On September 17 2020 04:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 04:45 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 17 2020 03:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:33 slant wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hate everything about this group...


You really think Nice having a .01% chance to take a game off of DRG was because of balance?

huh? I don't give a fuck about Nice. I just hate that Stats and DRG can't both advance


Well the Problem is, that they gave Special a Tier 2 seed ans DRG a Tier 3 Seed, so you can have Reynor together with 2 Koreans.
If you Swap Special and DRG the Groups would have looked a hell lot more even.
Now Group B is by far the hardest and Group C by far the easiest

Well that's just silly

Looking at Code S Results 2020 it s not.

What do you mean, exactly?

Special was worse in Season 2 and 3 than DRG and had the same result in Season 1.
So it s not silly to claim, DRG would be more deserving to get a Tier 2 seed over Special
MaxPax
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-16 21:20:00
September 16 2020 21:19 GMT
#300
On September 17 2020 04:55 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 04:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2020 04:45 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 17 2020 03:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:51 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:35 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:33 slant wrote:
On September 17 2020 02:31 Cricketer12 wrote:
I hate everything about this group...


You really think Nice having a .01% chance to take a game off of DRG was because of balance?

huh? I don't give a fuck about Nice. I just hate that Stats and DRG can't both advance


Well the Problem is, that they gave Special a Tier 2 seed ans DRG a Tier 3 Seed, so you can have Reynor together with 2 Koreans.
If you Swap Special and DRG the Groups would have looked a hell lot more even.
Now Group B is by far the hardest and Group C by far the easiest

Well that's just silly

Looking at Code S Results 2020 it s not.

What do you mean, exactly?

Special was worse in Season 2 and 3 than DRG and had the same result in Season 1.
So it s not silly to claim, DRG would be more deserving to get a Tier 2 seed over Special

Weird i thought that you agreed with the guy you quoted then, because he clearly meant giving Special higher seed was silly.
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