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Last Edited: 2020-07-17 10:56:29
July 17 2020 10:56 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


Saturday, Jul 18 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2020/Season 2

Streams & Casters


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Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Group Stage #2 (Round of 16): Dual Tournament Format.

  • 12 players from Group Stage 1 and 4 seeded players.
  • Group Nominations.
  • All matches are Bo3.

      Map Pool



Group B


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(T)INnoVation vs (Z)Dark
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(T)Bunny vs (P)PartinG

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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 17 2020 10:57 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Advances?

INnoVation & Dark (23)
 
68%

INnoVation & PartinG (6)
 
18%

Dark & PartinG (3)
 
9%

Bunny & INnoVation (2)
 
6%

PartinG & Bunny (0)
 
0%

Dark & Bunny (0)
 
0%

34 total votes

Your vote: Who Advances?

(Vote): INnoVation & Dark
(Vote): PartinG & Bunny
(Vote): Dark & PartinG
(Vote): Bunny & INnoVation
(Vote): Dark & Bunny
(Vote): INnoVation & PartinG

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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
July 17 2020 13:51 GMT
#3
Innovation 2-0 Dark
Parting 2-1 Bunny
Innovation 2-1 Parting
Dark 2-0 Bunny
Dark 2-0 Parting
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
July 17 2020 16:17 GMT
#4
curious to see how dark is looking
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13989 Posts
July 17 2020 18:47 GMT
#5
Inno 2-0 Dark
Parting 2-1 Bunny
Inno 2-0 Parting
Bunny 2-0 Dark
Parting 2-1 Bunny
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
serralfan18
Profile Joined March 2020
99 Posts
July 18 2020 03:51 GMT
#6
Innovation 2-0 dark
Parting 2-0 bunny
Innovation 2-1 parting
Dark 2-0 bunny
Dark 2-1 parting
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10086 Posts
July 18 2020 04:10 GMT
#7
lets gooooooooooooooo!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 04:15 GMT
#8
Hmm? Did Tasteless just say that Zest only became very good in LotV and that INno was strong in the beta?

That's an incorrect take.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 18 2020 04:16 GMT
#9
dark vs innovation might be the most chad matchup in SC2
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:18:07
July 18 2020 04:16 GMT
#10
Dark is dead. 22 drones for free? He has less army supply with roaches.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 18 2020 04:16 GMT
#11
i haven't been tip top for a while but is a 90 food lair typical in zvt??
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serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
July 18 2020 04:18 GMT
#12
On July 18 2020 13:16 Alejandrisha wrote:
i haven't been tip top for a while but is a 90 food lair typical in zvt??

90 supply lair is late
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 18 2020 04:19 GMT
#13
On July 18 2020 13:18 serendipitous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 13:16 Alejandrisha wrote:
i haven't been tip top for a while but is a 90 food lair typical in zvt??

90 supply lair is late

so i doubt the 160 ling speed is timely
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 18 2020 04:20 GMT
#14
dark is so ridiculously good
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 18 2020 04:22 GMT
#15
if dark didn't get his lair at 90 food i think he could have had overseers in time for those banshees... what a strange way to play
get rich or die mining
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
July 18 2020 04:23 GMT
#16
Isn't this the same build Dark used vs Taeja last season? Not a very good build...
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 04:23 GMT
#17
Inno played pretty sloppy after the 22 drone kills, but his lead was way too big.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10086 Posts
July 18 2020 04:23 GMT
#18
how did dark survived so long??!! just die xD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
July 18 2020 04:25 GMT
#19
Dark made it so close after 22 drones lost.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 04:25 GMT
#20
On July 18 2020 13:23 Topin wrote:
how did dark survived so long??!! just die xD


If you play really greedy and make a ton of drones you can afford to lose quite a few. Not 20+ though.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:28:23
July 18 2020 04:27 GMT
#21
This is a strange build from Inno. 2/1/1 with a viking? No hellions at all.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 04:33 GMT
#22
So Dark got the quick hive for adrenal and nothing else? Weird. Especially with no 2/2. I wonder what the plan was.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
July 18 2020 04:34 GMT
#23
Wow, Dark showing us the next evolution of the Ultras-into-lose strat: Nothing-into-lose
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 04:35 GMT
#24
On July 18 2020 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
So Dark got the quick hive for adrenal and nothing else? Weird. Especially with no 2/2. I wonder what the plan was.


I think the idea was ling/bane into hive but Inno was basically allin.
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serralfan18
Profile Joined March 2020
99 Posts
July 18 2020 04:35 GMT
#25
Innovation > Serral
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
July 18 2020 04:35 GMT
#26
Not bad, not bad at all
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:35:56
July 18 2020 04:35 GMT
#27
That was a really confusing game from Dark.

On July 18 2020 13:35 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
So Dark got the quick hive for adrenal and nothing else? Weird. Especially with no 2/2. I wonder what the plan was.


I think the idea was ling/bane into hive but Inno was basically allin.


Surely you still get 2/2 though.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 18 2020 04:35 GMT
#28
i am staring at my fingers trying to figure out that last game.
get rich or die mining
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10086 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:36:06
July 18 2020 04:35 GMT
#29
so many queens by Dark... i dont get it
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 04:36 GMT
#30
On July 18 2020 13:35 serralfan18 wrote:
Innovation > Serral


Eh, Inno's mech is at Serral's level but his bio (at least with ping) definitely isn't.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 18 2020 04:36 GMT
#31
Inno machine-learning Maru's bio go-hard-or-go-home style?

Maybe Dark should have focused his lings on killing reinforcements rather than economy.
gg no re thx
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 18 2020 04:36 GMT
#32
On July 18 2020 13:35 Topin wrote:
so many queens by Dark... i dont get it

8 queens rather than 6 to deflect weird things. i don't thinkk that was his mistake.
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Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
July 18 2020 04:36 GMT
#33
I dont know. Ive seen alot of zergs do macro hatch ling/bane upgrades into hive pretty well. Inno just hit at the perfect time and dark decided to counter attack instead of cleaning up.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 04:37 GMT
#34
On July 18 2020 13:36 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 13:35 Topin wrote:
so many queens by Dark... i dont get it

8 queens rather than 6 to deflect weird things. i don't thinkk that was his mistake.


More queens is never a mistake.
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greenturtle23
Profile Joined August 2019
86 Posts
July 18 2020 04:37 GMT
#35
Inno's control is incredible.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
July 18 2020 04:37 GMT
#36
I wonder how the game would have went if he didn't attack the Natural and went for the surround instead.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 04:38 GMT
#37
On July 18 2020 13:36 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 13:35 Topin wrote:
so many queens by Dark... i dont get it

8 queens rather than 6 to deflect weird things. i don't thinkk that was his mistake.


Eight's pretty normal. But he went up to 10 while cutting drones at 52 which is less usual I think?
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 18 2020 04:38 GMT
#38
On July 18 2020 13:36 Baffels wrote:
I dont know. Ive seen alot of zergs do macro hatch ling/bane upgrades into hive pretty well. Inno just hit at the perfect time and dark decided to counter attack instead of cleaning up.

yeah i agree. dark's cleans were good but the lings and banes to the econ never could outdo the early damage. that's why dark is dark. most zergs would crumble after the first push but he was able to stretch it out, making the would-be kill push look like a joke
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 18 2020 04:39 GMT
#39
On July 18 2020 13:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 13:36 Alejandrisha wrote:
On July 18 2020 13:35 Topin wrote:
so many queens by Dark... i dont get it

8 queens rather than 6 to deflect weird things. i don't thinkk that was his mistake.


Eight's pretty normal. But he went up to 10 while cutting drones at 52 which is less usual I think?

hell i would make 12. i don't think the queen production was his downfall.
get rich or die mining
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 18 2020 04:39 GMT
#40
Is it just me, or is Inno smirking more than usual?

Pretty confident use of excess disk space on emotional algorithms...
gg no re thx
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 04:40 GMT
#41
On July 18 2020 13:39 RKC wrote:
Is it just me, or is Inno smirking more than usual?

Pretty confident use of excess disk space on emotional algorithms...


He's loosened up a lot after Kesa.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 18 2020 04:41 GMT
#42
he sniffed those flowers and figured it out
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 18 2020 04:41 GMT
#43
don't know how people dont consider innovation the GOAT yet.

His peak was the greatest proleague player of all time, and he's won and contended in different eras too

this dude is nuts
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 18 2020 04:42 GMT
#44
On July 18 2020 13:40 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 13:39 RKC wrote:
Is it just me, or is Inno smirking more than usual?

Pretty confident use of excess disk space on emotional algorithms...


He's loosened up a lot after Kesa.


Uncle Innovation just out here having fun
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:43:53
July 18 2020 04:43 GMT
#45
Not sure why some of the players keep wearing masks while playing. There's some space and a divider between them. I guess they don't find it distracting.
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 18 2020 04:43 GMT
#46
On July 18 2020 13:41 BerserkSword wrote:
don't know how people dont consider innovation the GOAT yet.

His peak was the greatest proleague player of all time, and he's won and contended in different eras too

this dude is nuts


INno has the most impressive Aliguilac profile too
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:45:12
July 18 2020 04:44 GMT
#47
Bunny pulling out the weird builds right away.

I'm a huge fan of the early supply depot though, you can go 1 base or 3CC behind it and Protoss has no way to scout it.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:45:43
July 18 2020 04:45 GMT
#48
Strangest proxy execution I've seen in a while.

edit: Oh boy it's one of those series.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 04:45 GMT
#49
On July 18 2020 13:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Strangest proxy execution I've seen in a while.


Fastest scv pull too.
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Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
July 18 2020 04:46 GMT
#50
BITBYBITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 18 2020 04:47 GMT
#51
bunny doing the 12 pool drone pull in tvp
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 04:47 GMT
#52
Blizzard: We'd like to see more lategame TvP.

Terrans: Imma pull scvs off 1base.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10086 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:48:07
July 18 2020 04:47 GMT
#53
didnt TY did something like this sometime ago?

edit: nice by Bunny to bring something like this
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
July 18 2020 04:47 GMT
#54
Why the Sentry?
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 18 2020 04:47 GMT
#55
If he kept the sentry alive at the ramp I think he would have defended it
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 04:47 GMT
#56
On July 18 2020 13:47 geokilla wrote:
Why the Sentry?


FF the ramp, but he was too late.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:49:21
July 18 2020 04:47 GMT
#57
Gisado calling this the 4k MMR build of Korean ladder

On July 18 2020 13:47 geokilla wrote:
Why the Sentry?


I think it was was a blind sentry (pre-scouting) for whatever strat he had originally prepared.
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 18 2020 04:47 GMT
#58
On July 18 2020 13:43 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 13:41 BerserkSword wrote:
don't know how people dont consider innovation the GOAT yet.

His peak was the greatest proleague player of all time, and he's won and contended in different eras too

this dude is nuts


INno has the most impressive Aliguilac profile too


that i did not know
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 18 2020 04:48 GMT
#59
On July 18 2020 13:47 geokilla wrote:
Why the Sentry?

would have been a great play to forcefield the nat ramp but he never did it. so the sentry was a total botch job
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fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
July 18 2020 04:48 GMT
#60
On July 18 2020 13:47 Waxangel wrote:
Gisado calling this the 4k MMR build of Korean ladder

I feel personally attacked
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 04:49 GMT
#61
On July 18 2020 13:48 fastr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 13:47 Waxangel wrote:
Gisado calling this the 4k MMR build of Korean ladder

I feel personally attacked


If you do something dumb but it works it wasn't dumb.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:50:20
July 18 2020 04:49 GMT
#62
On July 18 2020 13:47 Waxangel wrote:
Gisado calling this the 4k MMR build of Korean ladder


Really shows the superiority of the Korean ladder. Plebeians like us only do sensible stuff like proxy marauders.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
July 18 2020 04:50 GMT
#63
In the qualifier of ESL Summer, (Wiki)Coffee used this method to win (Wiki)Cloudy.
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 18 2020 04:51 GMT
#64
I guess the gas steal is to delay the siege tank timing
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:53:07
July 18 2020 04:52 GMT
#65
That didn't really work out for Parting, he's behind on eco now.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
July 18 2020 04:53 GMT
#66
On July 18 2020 13:50 thickertom wrote:
In the qualifier of ESL Summer, (Wiki)Coffee used this method to win (Wiki)Cloudy.


Has did it to not-beat Cure
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:55:37
July 18 2020 04:55 GMT
#67
If Bunny didn't send out that double drop I think he would've deflected that pretty easily. Even now, he's got a pretty big opportunity.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
July 18 2020 04:55 GMT
#68
What a disappointing group already :/
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 04:55 GMT
#69
Bunny controlled that well.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
July 18 2020 04:56 GMT
#70
"Close all your orifices cuz Bunny's coming for you!"

Lol.
For Aiur???
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 04:57:31
July 18 2020 04:57 GMT
#71
Bunny should just soft contain, he has a huge tech lead and they're roughly even on eco. All Parting has is charge.
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fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
July 18 2020 04:57 GMT
#72
Bunny dropping a 2 base protoss trying to achieve what exactly? He should have just kept chasing units and rally push, what a missed opportunity
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 18 2020 04:58 GMT
#73
If it was Maru he would just have attacked the natural and won the game
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 04:59 GMT
#74
On July 18 2020 13:57 fastr wrote:
Bunny dropping a 2 base protoss trying to achieve what exactly? He should have just kept chasing units and rally push, what a missed opportunity


He could've won the game if not for the overcharge.
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
July 18 2020 05:00 GMT
#75
On July 18 2020 13:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 13:57 fastr wrote:
Bunny dropping a 2 base protoss trying to achieve what exactly? He should have just kept chasing units and rally push, what a missed opportunity


He could've won the game if not for the overcharge.


Army supply was like 30 to 4 at some point, I think you just focus the battery at that point
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
July 18 2020 05:01 GMT
#76
Bunny decides he's not all-in after all? armory and upgrades again
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 05:05:36
July 18 2020 05:01 GMT
#77
On July 18 2020 14:01 Waxangel wrote:
Bunny decides he's not all-in after all? armory and upgrades again


Somehow this managed to become a macro game I guess. Felt like Bunny missed a big opportunity to win though.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 18 2020 05:02 GMT
#78
As bio Terran, is storm or disruptor more annoying to deal with?
gg no re thx
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 05:03 GMT
#79
On July 18 2020 14:02 RKC wrote:
As bio Terran, is storm or disruptor more annoying to deal with?


Disruptors are way more tilting, no question.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 05:03 GMT
#80
On July 18 2020 14:02 RKC wrote:
As bio Terran, is storm or disruptor more annoying to deal with?


Disruptors by far.
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RKC
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2848 Posts
July 18 2020 05:06 GMT
#81
I think I watched Maru having good marine splits against Astrea during ESL. How did Inno do against Neeb?
gg no re thx
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 05:11:43
July 18 2020 05:10 GMT
#82
On July 18 2020 14:06 RKC wrote:
I think I watched Maru having good marine splits against Astrea during ESL. How did Inno do against Neeb?


Neeb played some offbeat phoenix into quick carrier stuff, so it's a bit hard to judge INno's TvP from those games.

It probably doesn't tell us anything about how PartinG vs INno would go.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
July 18 2020 05:20 GMT
#83
​kaizi-dpg 1-1
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 05:20:40
July 18 2020 05:20 GMT
#84
Ah Bunny shouldn't have gone in with those medivacs in the main. The threat of those medivacs keeping a bunch of stalkers is so much more valuable than actually sending those medivacs in.

He would have lost even with that though.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 05:21 GMT
#85
Bunny's mechanics seem stronger but he's still making questionable decisions.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
July 18 2020 05:23 GMT
#86
Innovation should win against PartinG. All Innovation has to do is defend since PartinG is almost always cheesing or playing aggressive. Will be interesting to see what strategy Bunny pulls out to try and upset Dark.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 18 2020 05:34 GMT
#87
I would much rather play DRG than TY in the quarters
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 05:35:53
July 18 2020 05:35 GMT
#88
On July 18 2020 14:34 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I would much rather play DRG than TY in the quarters


With how TY's been playing recently I wouldn't agree.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 05:36 GMT
#89
Does Parting think that Inno was sleeping through the last series or something?
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
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Last Edited: 2020-07-18 05:39:39
July 18 2020 05:38 GMT
#90
So PartinG's doing the exact same thing except with fewer immortals and more gas?

edit: Oh storm is nice.
IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
392 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 05:43:09
July 18 2020 05:41 GMT
#91
PartinG going full PartinG this game


.. then watching the drop leave and be totally out of position....
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 05:42 GMT
#92
This is the right type of weird game just like the series against Bunny, but unlike the weird games that Dark showed us.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
July 18 2020 05:46 GMT
#93
Such a hot mess of a game
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 05:46 GMT
#94
PartinG should've taken the other rich gas base. What would INno have done about it? Pushed out?
BabyMozart
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
July 18 2020 05:48 GMT
#95
As a terran... this is the most tilting game Ive ever seen :D :D: D
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
July 18 2020 05:48 GMT
#96
jesus christ those storms

it's almost enough to convince me to make an afreecaTV account so I can clip it (yes, they have that function now)

almost
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
July 18 2020 05:48 GMT
#97
STORMS!!!!
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 05:48 GMT
#98
That was the literal best engagement PartinG could possibly have taken. And now INno doesn't even have 2/2 started.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2654 Posts
July 18 2020 05:49 GMT
#99
On July 18 2020 14:48 BabyMozart wrote:
As a terran... this is the most tilting game Ive ever seen :D :D: D


I can totally see Terran not reach the Ro4 after all the terran domination lmao.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
July 18 2020 05:49 GMT
#100
20 years of starcraft still unsieging and sieging all tanks at same time.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2654 Posts
July 18 2020 05:49 GMT
#101
TBH tanks have proven to be a shit option against zealot/archon
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 05:51 GMT
#102
On July 18 2020 14:49 Lexender wrote:
TBH tanks have proven to be a shit option against zealot/archon


It's not great, but you really don't need to give them help by collecting all the tanks in the smallest area possible for storms.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 05:53 GMT
#103
PartinG's back to being up three upgrades, but who the hell knows if that even matters in this game.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 18 2020 05:55 GMT
#104
wtf why did inno gg out????
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
July 18 2020 05:56 GMT
#105
clumped tanks devoured by the storms was the best meal so far.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2654 Posts
July 18 2020 05:56 GMT
#106
Observers, Mass zealot, Blink DTs, Parting abuses the more bullshit of the protoss race and it really makes you think if other protoss do bad because they keep getting stuck trying to play in old ways.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States876 Posts
July 18 2020 05:56 GMT
#107
On July 18 2020 14:55 BerserkSword wrote:
wtf why did inno gg out????


40 supply and a base or 2 down, one of his bases vulnerable with no defenses and a smaller army, down 3 upgrades, and the bases that he did have were mined out due to heavy muling
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 18 2020 05:58 GMT
#108
On July 18 2020 14:56 Kitai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 14:55 BerserkSword wrote:
wtf why did inno gg out????


40 supply and a base or 2 down, one of his bases vulnerable with no defenses and a smaller army, down 3 upgrades, and the bases that he did have were mined out due to heavy muling


why early gg out against a cowboy protoss like parting though.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
July 18 2020 06:00 GMT
#109
LOL going pure marauder-tank against the blink stalker player.

is it big brain from innovation, or is this small brain from parting?
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Lothcomic
Profile Joined May 2020
21 Posts
July 18 2020 06:00 GMT
#110
Ah, the ol' Proxy Rax into Proxy Factory into another Proxy Rax opening.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
July 18 2020 06:01 GMT
#111
LOL Probes were the counter to Marauder-Tank
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Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 18 2020 06:01 GMT
#112
BIGBOYYYYYYYYYY
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Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
July 18 2020 06:01 GMT
#113
battery over charge pretty good against the a-move :D
Lothcomic
Profile Joined May 2020
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 06:02:10
July 18 2020 06:01 GMT
#114
F.A.Q.

What counters stalkers?
Marauders and Tanks!

What counters marauders and tanks?
Probes, apparently!
Domine3
Profile Joined July 2020
13 Posts
July 18 2020 06:01 GMT
#115
Inno why
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 06:02 GMT
#116
Shield battery overcharge is always there for you no matter what bs the opponent comes up with.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 18 2020 06:02 GMT
#117
battery overcharge is really really good
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
July 18 2020 06:02 GMT
#118
Should've pulled the bois
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9030 Posts
July 18 2020 06:02 GMT
#119
Innovation is playing pretty poorly.
BabyMozart
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
July 18 2020 06:02 GMT
#120
Paraphrasing Heromarine "of course Imba battery" xD
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4559 Posts
July 18 2020 06:03 GMT
#121
omg parting gets out again
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v1p3r52
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand182 Posts
July 18 2020 06:03 GMT
#122
that was an interesting game o.o
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
July 18 2020 06:04 GMT
#123
Observers won both games for parting
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 06:04:38
July 18 2020 06:04 GMT
#124
On July 18 2020 15:02 Garnet wrote:
Innovation is playing pretty poorly.


The TvP meta doesn't favors him TBH, its either the terran does some fast aggresion or the protoss does, nobody wants to play the midgame.
Domine3
Profile Joined July 2020
13 Posts
July 18 2020 06:04 GMT
#125
Parting get the revenge against TY please
IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
392 Posts
July 18 2020 06:05 GMT
#126
Weird series but glad PartinG advanced. Don't think he will choke as hard against TY this time
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States876 Posts
July 18 2020 06:05 GMT
#127
That was one of the funniest, strangest, and most interesting Bo3s I've seen in a very long time. Glad I stayed up for it!
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
July 18 2020 06:05 GMT
#128
Inno must survive, so that he has willpower to fight against Reynor after this.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
July 18 2020 06:05 GMT
#129
Inno built tanks in both games and completely botched them...just ugly play from one of the best.
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
July 18 2020 06:05 GMT
#130
So did PartinG roll out of bed yesterday and mess around in Dreamhack?
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 18 2020 06:05 GMT
#131
innovation played arrogantly tbh
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 06:08 GMT
#132
On July 18 2020 15:05 BerserkSword wrote:
innovation played arrogantly tbh


I disagree. He's been going for a lot of strange builds over the past few months. Sometimes they work out, and sometimes they fail and look really bad.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
July 18 2020 06:09 GMT
#133
Leaving this note for those of you who will end up finding it (you know who you are )

In his interview, regarding the DH Season Finals, PartinG said he doesn't care about online tournaments and goes all-in on GSL
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17684 Posts
July 18 2020 06:12 GMT
#134
incoming Parting vs DRG finals lol
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17684 Posts
July 18 2020 06:13 GMT
#135
On July 18 2020 15:09 Waxangel wrote:
Leaving this note for those of you who will end up finding it (you know who you are )

In his interview, regarding the DH Season Finals, PartinG said he doesn't care about online tournaments and goes all-in on GSL

not surprising for anyone who's watched koreans in online tournaments any time in the past 10 years
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 06:14:31
July 18 2020 06:13 GMT
#136
On July 18 2020 15:09 Waxangel wrote:
Leaving this note for those of you who will end up finding it (you know who you are )

In his interview, regarding the DH Season Finals, PartinG said he doesn't care about online tournaments and goes all-in on GSL


Nice.

We can add that to the list right after the ping, and the unfavorable time zones.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13989 Posts
July 18 2020 06:15 GMT
#137
B I G B O I
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17684 Posts
July 18 2020 06:16 GMT
#138
On July 18 2020 15:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 15:09 Waxangel wrote:
Leaving this note for those of you who will end up finding it (you know who you are )

In his interview, regarding the DH Season Finals, PartinG said he doesn't care about online tournaments and goes all-in on GSL


Nice.

We can add that to the list right after the ping, and the unfavorable time zones.

<astronauts always has been meme>
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13989 Posts
July 18 2020 06:17 GMT
#139
On July 18 2020 15:12 Die4Ever wrote:
incoming Parting vs DRG finals lol

Considering that would involve PartinG getting revenge on TY and DRG winning a bo5 v Inno that would be damn ideal.
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2654 Posts
July 18 2020 06:17 GMT
#140
On July 18 2020 15:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 15:05 BerserkSword wrote:
innovation played arrogantly tbh


I disagree. He's been going for a lot of strange builds over the past few months. Sometimes they work out, and sometimes they fail and look really bad.


Isn't that every existing pro terran player currently?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 06:19 GMT
#141
On July 18 2020 15:17 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 15:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 18 2020 15:05 BerserkSword wrote:
innovation played arrogantly tbh


I disagree. He's been going for a lot of strange builds over the past few months. Sometimes they work out, and sometimes they fail and look really bad.


Isn't that every existing pro terran player currently?


Not really. When Cure for example cheeses it's mostly been really normal cheeses.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 06:30 GMT
#142
That was a very normal game. By far the most normal of the day so far. Bunny just didn't manage to pressure Dark in any meaningful way.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 18 2020 06:32 GMT
#143
Hard to believe that Bunny's GSL gameplan involves playing standard games against dark
Year of MaxPax
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
July 18 2020 06:37 GMT
#144
Welp
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 18 2020 06:37 GMT
#145
Well
Year of MaxPax
Lothcomic
Profile Joined May 2020
21 Posts
July 18 2020 06:37 GMT
#146
Oh man, what a feeling it must be that your last act in a GSL is losing a banshee to Ravagers.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 18 2020 06:38 GMT
#147
a sad day for honorable macro terrans
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 06:38 GMT
#148
Yeah w/e, let's get back to seeing if Dark does anything sensible against INnoVation.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
July 18 2020 06:38 GMT
#149
GSL without either Inno or Dark for RO8....
serralfan18
Profile Joined March 2020
99 Posts
July 18 2020 06:47 GMT
#150
Anyone know why Life isn't in the hype video for being the first royal reader in the gsl?

User was temp banned for this post.
v1p3r52
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand182 Posts
July 18 2020 06:49 GMT
#151
On July 18 2020 15:47 serralfan18 wrote:
Anyone know why Life isn't in the hype video for being the first royal reader in the gsl?

Cos he got banned
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 06:56:55
July 18 2020 06:56 GMT
#152
watching a clump of 8 queens die to stim marines is so satisfying
insane how inno makes this kind of push work vs dark, so strong
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 18 2020 06:56 GMT
#153
Innovated
Year of MaxPax
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 06:58:03
July 18 2020 06:57 GMT
#154
Tough game for Dark. He played much more normally and solidly this time, but INno was just too strong.
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
July 18 2020 06:57 GMT
#155
2 best players in the world are EU. In 1 year 3 best players are EU.

In 2 years EU > Korea region.

pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 06:58:43
July 18 2020 06:58 GMT
#156
On July 18 2020 15:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Tough game for Dark. He played much more normally this time, but INno was just too strong.


Did Inno ever get a third or was that a 2base allin? Because it felt like a 2base allin.
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 18 2020 06:59 GMT
#157
On July 18 2020 15:58 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 15:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Tough game for Dark. He played much more normally this time, but INno was just too strong.


Did Inno ever get a third or was that a 2base allin? Because it felt like a 2base allin.


2 base and dark didn't adjust for it
Year of MaxPax
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 07:00 GMT
#158
On July 18 2020 15:58 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 15:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Tough game for Dark. He played much more normally this time, but INno was just too strong.


Did Inno ever get a third or was that a 2base allin? Because it felt like a 2base allin.


I think it was off 2 bases. Dark overdroned I guess.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 18 2020 07:09 GMT
#159
Dropping on top of the banes with marines is like super worth though
Year of MaxPax
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 18 2020 07:09 GMT
#160
is "good biles" the new "amazing fungals"? :D
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 18 2020 07:10 GMT
#161
On July 18 2020 16:09 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
is "good biles" the new "amazing fungals"? :D


Money biles?
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 07:11 GMT
#162
On July 18 2020 16:09 sudete wrote:
Dropping on top of the banes with marines is like super worth though


Ideally you'd be dropping from a single medivac at a time rather than both in the exact same area though.

Dark's macro's pretty sick. He seems to be consistently producing 70 lings at a time.
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
July 18 2020 07:13 GMT
#163
Good to see dark getting annihilated by widowmines just like i do
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 18 2020 07:15 GMT
#164
#terranpatch
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 07:25:00
July 18 2020 07:15 GMT
#165
Yknow I was gonna say that Inno keeps going for allins because he must think he can't win a macro game. Then he goes and dominates a macro game.

Also, I kinda suspect that Inno is very happy to be facing DRG instead of TY in the Ro8.
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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
July 18 2020 07:15 GMT
#166
It killed me to see Dark not get any overseers at all... widow mines just wrecked his ass in game 2
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 07:16:18
July 18 2020 07:15 GMT
#167
Submarine's a very hard map for ZvT. I wonder what Dark's veto strategy was. Maybe he doesn't mind it as much as most zerg since he's a fan of the ravager push.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 18 2020 07:16 GMT
#168
Inno's last 4 series against dark: 5-2, 4-1, 2-0, 2-0
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 07:16 GMT
#169
On July 18 2020 16:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Submarine's a very hard map for ZvT. I wonder what Dark's veto strategy was. Maybe he doesn't mind it as much as most zerg since he's a fan of the ravager push.


He vetoed in the first time around though. And he did go for the roach attack.
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Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
July 18 2020 07:17 GMT
#170
Remember when Dark had the best ZvT in the world and didnt lose to anyone for more than a year? Well thats gone. Obviously Terran is stronger now, but still pretty surprising.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
July 18 2020 07:17 GMT
#171
DRG vs Inno TY vs Parting its 2014 right????
StarcraftPeffo
Profile Joined May 2019
Italy66 Posts
July 18 2020 07:17 GMT
#172
Dark I'm a relatively new fan and fell in love with Dark style last year, seeing him getting crushed again and again lately really hurts.

Good thing we got that Super Tournament finals, even if he lost that was a great game
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
July 18 2020 07:18 GMT
#173
Dark honestly looked lost in those games vs innovation today. In the first match he lost 20 drones to banshees he saw on innovation's side of the map because he didn't make spores. In the second game, he kept doing economic damage until he literally didn't have a big enough army to fight Innovation's push. In this second series in game one, he built a spire, banked like 1200/1200 and didn't build a single muta until he had already lost among other awful mistakes. In this last game, he tech'd up to hive almost immediately and then sat on ling bane ravager for almost the entire game while also constantly losing his only overseer and taking massive damage to mines. He just looked bad.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
serralfan18
Profile Joined March 2020
99 Posts
July 18 2020 07:19 GMT
#174
On July 18 2020 15:49 v1p3r52 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 15:47 serralfan18 wrote:
Anyone know why Life isn't in the hype video for being the first royal reader in the gsl?

Cos he got banned


What did he do that GSL banned him? Map hacked or something?
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 07:47:20
July 18 2020 07:20 GMT
#175
wow insane how the bracket played out that we get the TY-Parting rematch again :D
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 18 2020 07:20 GMT
#176
On July 18 2020 16:16 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 16:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Submarine's a very hard map for ZvT. I wonder what Dark's veto strategy was. Maybe he doesn't mind it as much as most zerg since he's a fan of the ravager push.


He vetoed in the first time around though. And he did go for the roach attack.


Looking it up Dark won their previous two encounters on Submarine so there was a reason to play it.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 18 2020 07:20 GMT
#177
On July 18 2020 16:19 serralfan18 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 15:49 v1p3r52 wrote:
On July 18 2020 15:47 serralfan18 wrote:
Anyone know why Life isn't in the hype video for being the first royal reader in the gsl?

Cos he got banned


What did he do that GSL banned him? Map hacked or something?


Were you not around for the big matchfixing scandal a few years back?
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
July 18 2020 07:22 GMT
#178
glad INnoVation made it out but it's a shame that Dark has kind of fallen off. He doesn't really look like a top 10 player anymore tbh.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 07:24:03
July 18 2020 07:22 GMT
#179
On July 18 2020 16:22 Anc13nt wrote:
glad INnoVation made it out but it's a shame that Dark has kind of fallen off. He doesn't really look like a top 10 player anymore tbh.


At a guess I imagine his wrists are still bothering him. He was hospitalized a few months back, and since then he said on stream that he's not pushing himself too hard to avoid aggravating the injury.

Or maybe he's fully healed and just slumping like a normal person, who knows.
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
July 18 2020 07:25 GMT
#180
On July 18 2020 16:22 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 16:22 Anc13nt wrote:
glad INnoVation made it out but it's a shame that Dark has kind of fallen off. He doesn't really look like a top 10 player anymore tbh.


At a guess I imagine his wrists are still bothering him. He was hospitalized a few months back, and since then he said on stream that he's not pushing himself too hard to avoid aggravating the injury.


makes sense that he is planning long term. he's one of the younger players so it's a sacrifice worth making. That said, I feel like the korean zergs have fallen off quite badly and it seems pretty to me that Reynor and Serral are the best zergs and probably the best players atm if I'm being honest.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 18 2020 07:36 GMT
#181
I caught the last game and Dark played pretty poopy. Hopefuly it's just a rough patch (pun unintended) and not carpal tunnel.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 18 2020 07:58 GMT
#182
Inno machine learning calculated that 2nd place has ez-man bracket
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S1ngularity
Profile Joined August 2019
Canada9 Posts
July 18 2020 08:14 GMT
#183
On July 18 2020 16:25 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 16:22 pvsnp wrote:
On July 18 2020 16:22 Anc13nt wrote:
glad INnoVation made it out but it's a shame that Dark has kind of fallen off. He doesn't really look like a top 10 player anymore tbh.


At a guess I imagine his wrists are still bothering him. He was hospitalized a few months back, and since then he said on stream that he's not pushing himself too hard to avoid aggravating the injury.


makes sense that he is planning long term. he's one of the younger players so it's a sacrifice worth making. That said, I feel like the korean zergs have fallen off quite badly and it seems pretty to me that Reynor and Serral are the best zergs and probably the best players atm if I'm being honest.


I mean EU doesn't have terrans or protosses on the same level as their zergs, so neither of them are going to fall off any time soon until the other two races over there figure out how to close the gap.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 18 2020 08:48 GMT
#184
Dark looking pretty poor. Especially compared to that Bo5 against Maru.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
July 18 2020 09:32 GMT
#185
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
July 18 2020 09:33 GMT
#186
I really didn't think we'd get parting of all protosses in the ro8 (esp after His Play in dh), tho i also think inno threw Game 1 vs him pretty hard by taking some atrocious fights.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 18 2020 09:40 GMT
#187
Damn Parting, ggs!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 09:52:35
July 18 2020 09:52 GMT
#188
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast

Rogue has individual tournament runs that are amazing, but in between he does terribly. Like this year winning Katowice and getting eliminated in the first round of Code S and not getting into the Super Tournament at all. Don't think it's that much of a stretch when Tasteless calls the more consistent player who also has tournament wins in the same time span (including Blizzcon) better.
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 10:28:41
July 18 2020 10:28 GMT
#189
On July 18 2020 18:52 Elentos wrote:
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On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast

Rogue has individual tournament runs that are amazing, but in between he does terribly. Like this year winning Katowice and getting eliminated in the first round of Code S and not getting into the Super Tournament at all. Don't think it's that much of a stretch when Tasteless calls the more consistent player who also has tournament wins in the same time span (including Blizzcon) better.


for Rogue it's usually ro32, ro8 or win lol
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2751 Posts
July 18 2020 10:28 GMT
#190
The first game of Parting/inno was so great.
The tvz were pretty lames, not a great showing for Dark.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
July 18 2020 10:54 GMT
#191
On July 18 2020 18:52 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast

Rogue has individual tournament runs that are amazing, but in between he does terribly. Like this year winning Katowice and getting eliminated in the first round of Code S and not getting into the Super Tournament at all. Don't think it's that much of a stretch when Tasteless calls the more consistent player who also has tournament wins in the same time span (including Blizzcon) better.



True, but besides Blizzcon, Dark hasnt enjoy thatm uch success neither since his GSL
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 11:03:34
July 18 2020 11:03 GMT
#192
On July 18 2020 19:54 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 18:52 Elentos wrote:
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast

Rogue has individual tournament runs that are amazing, but in between he does terribly. Like this year winning Katowice and getting eliminated in the first round of Code S and not getting into the Super Tournament at all. Don't think it's that much of a stretch when Tasteless calls the more consistent player who also has tournament wins in the same time span (including Blizzcon) better.



True, but besides Blizzcon, Dark hasnt enjoy thatm uch success neither since his GSL


I think that's a normal "success cadence" for most of SC2 history—Maru + Serral in 2018-2019 has just really skewed our perception.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 12:07:48
July 18 2020 12:06 GMT
#193
Dark smashed his way through Super Tournament, just edged out by Maru and finished 2nd.

It's a bit unfortunate that Dark had to meet Inno twice. Kudos to Parting defeating Inno, but PvT overall right now just looks... wonky and coin-flippy ala high-stakes poker due to Toss' AoE damage (nothing about balance, just saying that the games tend to hinge on 1-2 major engagements... then again, that's arguably the whole life story of SC2 PvT).

Hard to tell who would've won between Dark and Parting. Probably somewhat even.

So I don't think the results are too unexpected, the way they turned out. If Parting had lost to Inno and won Dark to clinch the spot, I would have been more surprised and convinced that Dark is 'slumping'....
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 12:24:21
July 18 2020 12:19 GMT
#194
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast


Perhaps Rogue had some kind of bad "aura" ie his play styles that made spectators hated him so much that they never wished to put him as the top 3 best Zerg players either in 2019 or 2020 even though he kept winning the big tourneys.
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Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 18 2020 12:29 GMT
#195
On July 18 2020 21:19 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast


Perhaps Rogue has some kind of bad "aura" ie his play styles that make spectators hated him so much that they never wished to put him as the top 3 best Zerg players either in 2019 or 2020 even though he kept winning the big tourneys.


It's more about the perception that he is a patchzerg whereas Dark has been consistently one of the best Zergs since 2016. Also he is often a very inconsistent player as people have said. Take early 2020 for example, he went and won Katowice only to lose in the first round of the gsl. When he won GSL season 3 last year he then got knocked out in the first round of the Super Tournament and then was knocked out in the quarterfinals of Blizzcon.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
July 18 2020 13:48 GMT
#196
Wow Dark not in Ro8. I’m bummed. Though I’m also happy Inno and Parting made it
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13989 Posts
July 18 2020 14:11 GMT
#197
On July 18 2020 16:15 pvsnp wrote:
Yknow I was gonna say that Inno keeps going for allins because he must think he can't win a macro game. Then he goes and dominates a macro game.

Also, I kinda suspect that Inno is very happy to be facing DRG instead of TY in the Ro8.

Yeah I'm expecting a clean 3-0 in that game...
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tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
July 18 2020 14:27 GMT
#198
On July 18 2020 16:17 Shathe wrote:
Remember when Dark had the best ZvT in the world and didnt lose to anyone for more than a year? Well thats gone. Obviously Terran is stronger now, but still pretty surprising.


Inno has had Dark's number for years.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 18 2020 14:31 GMT
#199
On July 18 2020 23:27 tskarzyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 16:17 Shathe wrote:
Remember when Dark had the best ZvT in the world and didnt lose to anyone for more than a year? Well thats gone. Obviously Terran is stronger now, but still pretty surprising.


Inno has had Dark's number for years.

Dark is one of Inno's biggest nemeses, just check Aligulac. Dark won almost every series between them in LotV, this year is the first where he's mostly losing.
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chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 18 2020 14:55 GMT
#200
Some interesting games today! To be honest I enjoyed most of the series, but I have to admit I was rooting against Parting, but he played pretty good PvT! Super hyped for the rematch between him and TY though, I feel like he tiled at least 2 games the last time they met...

Dark I would've loved for him to advance but the match up between Inno and DRG is really exciting

Ro8 shaping up to be great!
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
July 18 2020 21:12 GMT
#201
Because I could not watch it live, the performance of Tasteless is just... mindblowing... just focus on game 1: it's like a mod telling you in soccer during a 0:3 ... "yeah trust me they are coming back"... Quote:"I think like Innovation is overextending" and going on like this... Artosis tried to save him like hell... Even telling him that theres a +2 upgrade advantage... ofc everyone saw Inno crushing it... I just wanna see what he did...
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