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[GSL 2020] Code S - RO16 - Group A - Page 4

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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 15 2020 10:13 GMT
#61
On July 15 2020 19:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:10 sudete wrote:
See if Prince was here he would have given a shorter but more entertaining series

come on g1 didn't entertain you ? I thought it was a hell of a lot of fun


I thought it was more frustrating than anything else. Watching Scarlett refuse to make an Overseer against Tunneling Claws Widow Mines, and try and transition into Hydralisks which lacked any upgrades while TY just took over the map.

All Scarlett had going for her was her runbys which honestly didn't mean much because of how far ahead he was the entire game in army supply.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28474 Posts
July 15 2020 10:13 GMT
#62
This group is 3 players fighting for one spot I'd say. Next match should be more interesting
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 15 2020 10:13 GMT
#63
I only just noticed it, that photo of Special in the intermission is quite well-taken. I think the Terrans got a better photographer, their poses work better.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 15 2020 10:14 GMT
#64
On July 15 2020 19:11 Vindicare605 wrote:
Pretty underwhelming series honestly. Tastetosis was making that first game sound a lot more competitive than it was.


I don't really think so. Ty had very few SCV's on a two base mining economy for quite a while in the game. Scarlett only lost toward the end when she took some bad fights and let TY macro a little too easily behind it.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 15 2020 10:14 GMT
#65
On July 15 2020 19:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:11 Vindicare605 wrote:
Pretty underwhelming series honestly. Tastetosis was making that first game sound a lot more competitive than it was.


I don't really think so. Ty had very few SCV's on a two base mining economy for quite a while in the game. Scarlett only lost toward the end when she took some bad fights and let TY macro a little too easily behind it.


Two base mining economy when one of those bases was gold. =/= "only a two base economy"
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
July 15 2020 10:14 GMT
#66
On July 15 2020 19:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:07 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:05 Ej_ wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:03 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:01 Waxangel wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:00 Ej_ wrote:
Petition to take away the #1 seed swap


it's really bad...

guaranteeing a bottom 4 GSL player to reach the RO8


Well Scarlett was just TY's regular player pick.

And bottom 4 GSL player? Pretty sure they were eliminated in the Ro24.

But yeah, there is no reason to have the swap other than group nomination hilarity.

It makes ro16 Group A always really underwhelming since it's a freebie for the champion, aside of guaranteeing one of the 3 or 4 worst players in the ro16 to make ro8.


Yeah I get it, and I agree. But Scarlett would have gone here regardless of the swap. So you haven't seen anything yet that you wouldn't also have seen without the swap.

indeed. Since Scarlett chose Special then if DRG plays at a high enough level the pick won't have changed much.

I really hate the swap mechanic as well and if TY didnt have the swap SpeCial wouldn't have been available for Scarlett to chose. SpeCial was only left unpicked becuase players feared TYs swap.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 15 2020 10:15 GMT
#67
On July 15 2020 19:13 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:10 sudete wrote:
See if Prince was here he would have given a shorter but more entertaining series

come on g1 didn't entertain you ? I thought it was a hell of a lot of fun


I thought it was more frustrating than anything else. Watching Scarlett refuse to make an Overseer against Tunneling Claws Widow Mines, and try and transition into Hydralisks which lacked any upgrades while TY just took over the map.

All Scarlett had going for her was her runbys which honestly didn't mean much because of how far ahead he was the entire game in army supply.

Well, I believe when them mines happened Scarlett was pretty starved on gas. I am at work so maybe I missed some stuff.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-15 10:17:09
July 15 2020 10:15 GMT
#68
On July 15 2020 19:14 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:11 Vindicare605 wrote:
Pretty underwhelming series honestly. Tastetosis was making that first game sound a lot more competitive than it was.


I don't really think so. Ty had very few SCV's on a two base mining economy for quite a while in the game. Scarlett only lost toward the end when she took some bad fights and let TY macro a little too easily behind it.


Two base mining economy when one of those bases was gold. =/= "only a two base economy"


Sort of. He only had 11 SCV's and Scarlett had like 40-50 drones or so for quite a while. She wasn't really that far behind.

The linchpin of her loss was just several bad fights with some unfortunate widow mine hits and a correlated harass


[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24193 Posts
July 15 2020 10:17 GMT
#69
On July 15 2020 19:14 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:07 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:05 Ej_ wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:03 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:01 Waxangel wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:00 Ej_ wrote:
Petition to take away the #1 seed swap


it's really bad...

guaranteeing a bottom 4 GSL player to reach the RO8


Well Scarlett was just TY's regular player pick.

And bottom 4 GSL player? Pretty sure they were eliminated in the Ro24.

But yeah, there is no reason to have the swap other than group nomination hilarity.

It makes ro16 Group A always really underwhelming since it's a freebie for the champion, aside of guaranteeing one of the 3 or 4 worst players in the ro16 to make ro8.


Yeah I get it, and I agree. But Scarlett would have gone here regardless of the swap. So you haven't seen anything yet that you wouldn't also have seen without the swap.

indeed. Since Scarlett chose Special then if DRG plays at a high enough level the pick won't have changed much.

I really hate the swap mechanic as well and if TY didnt have the swap SpeCial wouldn't have been available for Scarlett to chose. SpeCial was only left unpicked becuase players feared TYs swap.

yeah probably. It indeed affects player picks so it's hard to gauge. I have already said that I agree the swap shouldn't be a thing.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 15 2020 10:17 GMT
#70
On July 15 2020 19:15 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:14 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:11 Vindicare605 wrote:
Pretty underwhelming series honestly. Tastetosis was making that first game sound a lot more competitive than it was.


I don't really think so. Ty had very few SCV's on a two base mining economy for quite a while in the game. Scarlett only lost toward the end when she took some bad fights and let TY macro a little too easily behind it.


Two base mining economy when one of those bases was gold. =/= "only a two base economy"


Sort of. He only had 11 SCV's and scarlett had like 40-50 drones or so for quite a while. She wasn't really that far behind

I missed the game and have just rewound on youtube. The game is over when TY has 9 workers and they are even in overall supply. Scarlett can't do anything about TY mass expanding while running circles around her.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 15 2020 10:17 GMT
#71
Well we kinda need Special to win here to get the grudge match in the winner's
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 15 2020 10:18 GMT
#72
lets go juanitooo
~~~~~
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 15 2020 10:18 GMT
#73
On July 15 2020 19:06 Ej_ wrote:
So jokes aside, 211 is the best build in the game vs 2 base muta.
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:06 sudete wrote:
You can see what TY thinks of Scarlett based on his decision to go for 2-1-1 twice in a row

It's actually a very good read since it's a freebie against mutalisk builds and roach all-ins.


IIRC Lambo said that 3CC is the best response to 2base muta.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
July 15 2020 10:19 GMT
#74
On July 15 2020 19:11 Vindicare605 wrote:
Pretty underwhelming series honestly. Tastetosis was making that first game sound a lot more competitive than it was.

I mean that s their job right?
They ve never realy tried to point out how early- (mid-) game advantages translate into mid (late-) game and always make it seem like both players are even until one is super dead.
Wich is good in terms of excitement but often times leads some more casual viewers to just blame balance, when in reality the losing player was slacking behind from the beginning, because of bad opener/ build order counter/ early damage/ whatever
MaxPax
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 15 2020 10:19 GMT
#75
On July 15 2020 19:17 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:15 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:14 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On July 15 2020 19:11 Vindicare605 wrote:
Pretty underwhelming series honestly. Tastetosis was making that first game sound a lot more competitive than it was.


I don't really think so. Ty had very few SCV's on a two base mining economy for quite a while in the game. Scarlett only lost toward the end when she took some bad fights and let TY macro a little too easily behind it.


Two base mining economy when one of those bases was gold. =/= "only a two base economy"


Sort of. He only had 11 SCV's and scarlett had like 40-50 drones or so for quite a while. She wasn't really that far behind

I missed the game and have just rewound on youtube. The game is over when TY has 9 workers and they are even in overall supply. Scarlett can't do anything about TY mass expanding while running circles around her.


For once I agree with Ej_.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 15 2020 10:20 GMT
#76
Tilting pause
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28474 Posts
July 15 2020 10:20 GMT
#77
On July 15 2020 19:17 sneakyfox wrote:
Well we kinda need Special to win here to get the grudge match in the winner's

Hmm, agree. And then have DRG win with the rematch curse
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 15 2020 10:20 GMT
#78
Special is gonna mech on this map I'm thinking.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 15 2020 10:20 GMT
#79
Special pauses to fix his hair?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-15 10:20:53
July 15 2020 10:20 GMT
#80
On July 15 2020 19:18 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2020 19:06 Ej_ wrote:
So jokes aside, 211 is the best build in the game vs 2 base muta.
On July 15 2020 19:06 sudete wrote:
You can see what TY thinks of Scarlett based on his decision to go for 2-1-1 twice in a row

It's actually a very good read since it's a freebie against mutalisk builds and roach all-ins.


IIRC Lambo said that 3CC is the best response to 2base muta.

Yeah but that one struggles vs roach all-in builds (rax CC fact CC actually just dies).
The best best build vs 2h muta is CC rax CC rax fact starport (3cc 211).
Regular 211 is still a massive BO advantage since it takes away all advantages and timing windows 2h muta has over a Terran.
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