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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 16 2020 17:12 GMT
#421
On July 17 2020 02:11 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:07 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:06 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:05 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:02 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:00 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:58 Xain0n wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:51 Fango wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 ytherik wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 sudete wrote:
Anyone think that ping might be a slight issue?

It might be a slight issue for everyone, but somehow people tend to mention it only when Koreans lose...

In this case, it was a TvZ (and bio at that) where the terran is blatently worse off when playing with increased latency. If this was HeroMarine playing bio and losing to soO for example, you'd say the same thing. Personally I think people need to just take any results played cross server with a grain of salt, regardless of who wins.

Another point just in general to what you say is that typically koreans are favourites, and latency issues become less relevant when the favoured player wins. When the player who should win on paper wins, you don't start looking for potential reasons why that might have happened.


Inno is not favored over Serral.


Not with latency

Why do you ignore Serral's latency?


because as Rotti pointed out latency matters more for Terran than for Z.

And then i would argue that even without latency Inno is not favored over serral. This argument is so pointless that it's like a void ray.


Yes your argument is kinda pointless as a void ray

I see that you don't know how to read. Unsurprising.


So sharp
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-16 17:14:47
July 16 2020 17:13 GMT
#422
TY currently going 1 base thor? LOL
nvm its just widow mine drops )
the mad lad is actually making the thor :D
~~~~~
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 16 2020 17:13 GMT
#423
On July 17 2020 02:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:10 geokilla wrote:
Shame more people aren't watching PartinG vs TY

Series just started and I don't think people were expecting this losers match. Viewers will probably go up if the series isn't just 15 minutes of crappy cheese.


Way to jinx it mate
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
July 16 2020 17:14 GMT
#424
On July 17 2020 02:07 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:04 JJH777 wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:58 Xain0n wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:51 Fango wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 ytherik wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 sudete wrote:
Anyone think that ping might be a slight issue?

It might be a slight issue for everyone, but somehow people tend to mention it only when Koreans lose...

In this case, it was a TvZ (and bio at that) where the terran is blatently worse off when playing with increased latency. If this was HeroMarine playing bio and losing to soO for example, you'd say the same thing. Personally I think people need to just take any results played cross server with a grain of salt, regardless of who wins.

Another point just in general to what you say is that typically koreans are favourites, and latency issues become less relevant when the favoured player wins. When the player who should win on paper wins, you don't start looking for potential reasons why that might have happened.


Inno is not favored over Serral.


Do you think Terran is favored in TvZ right now? I feel like I've seen you say that but I guess I might be confusing you with the multitude of people here who think T is broken because of the results of a single tournament. I personally agree with you but that's because I recognize TvZ is still either Z favored or 50-50 at worse regardless of a single GSL. If you think TvZ is T favored and still call Serral a favorite over Innovation then I don't know what to say except Serral is not that good.

All top seeds in GSL Ro16 opted for tvz. Inno rather plays Dark than Bunny or PartinG
Thinking Z would be favoured vs T while thats happening is pathetic


We'll see how that pick works out for him. TY picked Scarlett because she was the weakest player in the ro16 and Maru picking Solar was slightly weird but not too crazy compared to the other players available especially knowing Special would just be swapped and he's always been confident in TvZ regardless of the meta.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
July 16 2020 17:15 GMT
#425
PROXY THOR
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
July 16 2020 17:15 GMT
#426
Proxy Thors!
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-16 17:16:46
July 16 2020 17:15 GMT
#427
Proxy Thor - getting those WoL Beta vibes.

Edit: I guess it's still as effective as it was back then.
Mendici sumus. Hoc est verum. | I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public. | Es ist keine Tugend edel geboren werden, sondern sich edel machen | οἶδα οὐκ εἰδώς
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 16 2020 17:15 GMT
#428
That was... a very wasteful proxy thor.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7196 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#429
On July 17 2020 02:12 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:11 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:07 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:06 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:05 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:02 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:00 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:58 Xain0n wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:51 Fango wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 ytherik wrote:
[quote]
It might be a slight issue for everyone, but somehow people tend to mention it only when Koreans lose...

In this case, it was a TvZ (and bio at that) where the terran is blatently worse off when playing with increased latency. If this was HeroMarine playing bio and losing to soO for example, you'd say the same thing. Personally I think people need to just take any results played cross server with a grain of salt, regardless of who wins.

Another point just in general to what you say is that typically koreans are favourites, and latency issues become less relevant when the favoured player wins. When the player who should win on paper wins, you don't start looking for potential reasons why that might have happened.


Inno is not favored over Serral.


Not with latency

Why do you ignore Serral's latency?


because as Rotti pointed out latency matters more for Terran than for Z.

And then i would argue that even without latency Inno is not favored over serral. This argument is so pointless that it's like a void ray.


Yes your argument is kinda pointless as a void ray

I see that you don't know how to read. Unsurprising.


So sharp

Keep droppping them oneliners. You are such a witty dude that maybe you should go on tv to do a comedy show or become some online argument guy.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#430
get uThermal out of TYs chair and put taeyang back in please
~~~~~
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#431
On July 17 2020 02:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:07 dbRic1203 wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:04 JJH777 wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:58 Xain0n wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:51 Fango wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 ytherik wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 sudete wrote:
Anyone think that ping might be a slight issue?

It might be a slight issue for everyone, but somehow people tend to mention it only when Koreans lose...

In this case, it was a TvZ (and bio at that) where the terran is blatently worse off when playing with increased latency. If this was HeroMarine playing bio and losing to soO for example, you'd say the same thing. Personally I think people need to just take any results played cross server with a grain of salt, regardless of who wins.

Another point just in general to what you say is that typically koreans are favourites, and latency issues become less relevant when the favoured player wins. When the player who should win on paper wins, you don't start looking for potential reasons why that might have happened.


Inno is not favored over Serral.


Do you think Terran is favored in TvZ right now? I feel like I've seen you say that but I guess I might be confusing you with the multitude of people here who think T is broken because of the results of a single tournament. I personally agree with you but that's because I recognize TvZ is still either Z favored or 50-50 at worse regardless of a single GSL. If you think TvZ is T favored and still call Serral a favorite over Innovation then I don't know what to say except Serral is not that good.

All top seeds in GSL Ro16 opted for tvz. Inno rather plays Dark than Bunny or PartinG
Thinking Z would be favoured vs T while thats happening is pathetic

Every single Terran in the group selection said they don't want to play TvP but people still say TvP is Terran favored. That's not exactly the hottest argument. Also not that I think Inno cares that much but he is teammates with Bunny


TvZ is a fine matchup at the moment, probably Terran favored.
Serral is 7-1 in series against Inno in the last 12 months considering both online and offline encounters, he has to be the favourite.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#432
the TY slump is incredible ;o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ytherik
Profile Joined July 2020
199 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#433
TY with the memes
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
July 16 2020 17:17 GMT
#434
RiSky is the loneliest icicle in hell
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 16 2020 17:17 GMT
#435
This build from TY was just awful. I can't imagine this ever winning lol.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
July 16 2020 17:17 GMT
#436
Thor drops were sexier in 2011 with this good old Thorzain vs MC
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
July 16 2020 17:19 GMT
#437
parting actually has so much practice vs that weird build
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 16 2020 17:21 GMT
#438
On July 17 2020 02:17 stilt wrote:
Thor drops were sexier in 2011 with this good old Thorzain vs MC


Back when units wouldn't target repairing SCVs? .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
July 16 2020 17:21 GMT
#439
That proxy location🙃
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 16 2020 17:23 GMT
#440
Even if the winner should lose to TIME, there's still $500 on the line in this match
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
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