• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:55
CEST 11:55
KST 18:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
https://www.facebook.com/LottoWinsAI/ 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion Data needed
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1930 users

DH Masters Summer: Season Finals - Page 22

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
2815 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 141 Next
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 16 2020 17:12 GMT
#421
On July 17 2020 02:11 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:07 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:06 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:05 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:02 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:00 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:58 Xain0n wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:51 Fango wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 ytherik wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 sudete wrote:
Anyone think that ping might be a slight issue?

It might be a slight issue for everyone, but somehow people tend to mention it only when Koreans lose...

In this case, it was a TvZ (and bio at that) where the terran is blatently worse off when playing with increased latency. If this was HeroMarine playing bio and losing to soO for example, you'd say the same thing. Personally I think people need to just take any results played cross server with a grain of salt, regardless of who wins.

Another point just in general to what you say is that typically koreans are favourites, and latency issues become less relevant when the favoured player wins. When the player who should win on paper wins, you don't start looking for potential reasons why that might have happened.


Inno is not favored over Serral.


Not with latency

Why do you ignore Serral's latency?


because as Rotti pointed out latency matters more for Terran than for Z.

And then i would argue that even without latency Inno is not favored over serral. This argument is so pointless that it's like a void ray.


Yes your argument is kinda pointless as a void ray

I see that you don't know how to read. Unsurprising.


So sharp
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-16 17:14:47
July 16 2020 17:13 GMT
#422
TY currently going 1 base thor? LOL
nvm its just widow mine drops )
the mad lad is actually making the thor :D
~~~~~
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 16 2020 17:13 GMT
#423
On July 17 2020 02:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:10 geokilla wrote:
Shame more people aren't watching PartinG vs TY

Series just started and I don't think people were expecting this losers match. Viewers will probably go up if the series isn't just 15 minutes of crappy cheese.


Way to jinx it mate
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4417 Posts
July 16 2020 17:14 GMT
#424
On July 17 2020 02:07 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:04 JJH777 wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:58 Xain0n wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:51 Fango wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 ytherik wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 sudete wrote:
Anyone think that ping might be a slight issue?

It might be a slight issue for everyone, but somehow people tend to mention it only when Koreans lose...

In this case, it was a TvZ (and bio at that) where the terran is blatently worse off when playing with increased latency. If this was HeroMarine playing bio and losing to soO for example, you'd say the same thing. Personally I think people need to just take any results played cross server with a grain of salt, regardless of who wins.

Another point just in general to what you say is that typically koreans are favourites, and latency issues become less relevant when the favoured player wins. When the player who should win on paper wins, you don't start looking for potential reasons why that might have happened.


Inno is not favored over Serral.


Do you think Terran is favored in TvZ right now? I feel like I've seen you say that but I guess I might be confusing you with the multitude of people here who think T is broken because of the results of a single tournament. I personally agree with you but that's because I recognize TvZ is still either Z favored or 50-50 at worse regardless of a single GSL. If you think TvZ is T favored and still call Serral a favorite over Innovation then I don't know what to say except Serral is not that good.

All top seeds in GSL Ro16 opted for tvz. Inno rather plays Dark than Bunny or PartinG
Thinking Z would be favoured vs T while thats happening is pathetic


We'll see how that pick works out for him. TY picked Scarlett because she was the weakest player in the ro16 and Maru picking Solar was slightly weird but not too crazy compared to the other players available especially knowing Special would just be swapped and he's always been confident in TvZ regardless of the meta.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
July 16 2020 17:15 GMT
#425
PROXY THOR
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
July 16 2020 17:15 GMT
#426
Proxy Thors!
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-16 17:16:46
July 16 2020 17:15 GMT
#427
Proxy Thor - getting those WoL Beta vibes.

Edit: I guess it's still as effective as it was back then.
Mendici sumus. Hoc est verum. | I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public. | Es ist keine Tugend edel geboren werden, sondern sich edel machen | οἶδα οὐκ εἰδώς
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 16 2020 17:15 GMT
#428
That was... a very wasteful proxy thor.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7166 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#429
On July 17 2020 02:12 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:11 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:07 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:06 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:05 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:02 Luolis wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:00 Argonauta wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:58 Xain0n wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:51 Fango wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 ytherik wrote:
[quote]
It might be a slight issue for everyone, but somehow people tend to mention it only when Koreans lose...

In this case, it was a TvZ (and bio at that) where the terran is blatently worse off when playing with increased latency. If this was HeroMarine playing bio and losing to soO for example, you'd say the same thing. Personally I think people need to just take any results played cross server with a grain of salt, regardless of who wins.

Another point just in general to what you say is that typically koreans are favourites, and latency issues become less relevant when the favoured player wins. When the player who should win on paper wins, you don't start looking for potential reasons why that might have happened.


Inno is not favored over Serral.


Not with latency

Why do you ignore Serral's latency?


because as Rotti pointed out latency matters more for Terran than for Z.

And then i would argue that even without latency Inno is not favored over serral. This argument is so pointless that it's like a void ray.


Yes your argument is kinda pointless as a void ray

I see that you don't know how to read. Unsurprising.


So sharp

Keep droppping them oneliners. You are such a witty dude that maybe you should go on tv to do a comedy show or become some online argument guy.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#430
get uThermal out of TYs chair and put taeyang back in please
~~~~~
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#431
On July 17 2020 02:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2020 02:07 dbRic1203 wrote:
On July 17 2020 02:04 JJH777 wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:58 Xain0n wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:51 Fango wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 ytherik wrote:
On July 17 2020 01:40 sudete wrote:
Anyone think that ping might be a slight issue?

It might be a slight issue for everyone, but somehow people tend to mention it only when Koreans lose...

In this case, it was a TvZ (and bio at that) where the terran is blatently worse off when playing with increased latency. If this was HeroMarine playing bio and losing to soO for example, you'd say the same thing. Personally I think people need to just take any results played cross server with a grain of salt, regardless of who wins.

Another point just in general to what you say is that typically koreans are favourites, and latency issues become less relevant when the favoured player wins. When the player who should win on paper wins, you don't start looking for potential reasons why that might have happened.


Inno is not favored over Serral.


Do you think Terran is favored in TvZ right now? I feel like I've seen you say that but I guess I might be confusing you with the multitude of people here who think T is broken because of the results of a single tournament. I personally agree with you but that's because I recognize TvZ is still either Z favored or 50-50 at worse regardless of a single GSL. If you think TvZ is T favored and still call Serral a favorite over Innovation then I don't know what to say except Serral is not that good.

All top seeds in GSL Ro16 opted for tvz. Inno rather plays Dark than Bunny or PartinG
Thinking Z would be favoured vs T while thats happening is pathetic

Every single Terran in the group selection said they don't want to play TvP but people still say TvP is Terran favored. That's not exactly the hottest argument. Also not that I think Inno cares that much but he is teammates with Bunny


TvZ is a fine matchup at the moment, probably Terran favored.
Serral is 7-1 in series against Inno in the last 12 months considering both online and offline encounters, he has to be the favourite.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#432
the TY slump is incredible ;o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ytherik
Profile Joined July 2020
199 Posts
July 16 2020 17:16 GMT
#433
TY with the memes
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
July 16 2020 17:17 GMT
#434
RiSky is the loneliest icicle in hell
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 16 2020 17:17 GMT
#435
This build from TY was just awful. I can't imagine this ever winning lol.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
July 16 2020 17:17 GMT
#436
Thor drops were sexier in 2011 with this good old Thorzain vs MC
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
July 16 2020 17:19 GMT
#437
parting actually has so much practice vs that weird build
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 16 2020 17:21 GMT
#438
On July 17 2020 02:17 stilt wrote:
Thor drops were sexier in 2011 with this good old Thorzain vs MC


Back when units wouldn't target repairing SCVs? .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
July 16 2020 17:21 GMT
#439
That proxy location🙃
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 16 2020 17:23 GMT
#440
Even if the winner should lose to TIME, there's still $500 on the line in this match
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 141 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Railgan 33
SortOf 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 514
Larva 350
actioN 221
Stork 213
sSak 132
ToSsGirL 114
Sharp 66
soO 22
yabsab 20
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
[ Show more ]
[sc1f]eonzerg 8
Free 7
zelot 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm485
XcaliburYe262
League of Legends
JimRising 450
Counter-Strike
allub513
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor193
Other Games
gofns9022
singsing594
Fuzer 170
MindelVK20
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream13799
Other Games
gamesdonequick879
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 36
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1849
• TFBlade594
• Stunt493
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1h 5m
Classic vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Percival
herO vs Clem
ByuN vs Rogue
Ladder Legends
5h 5m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5h 5m
BSL
9h 5m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 1h
Ladder Legends
1d 5h
BSL
1d 9h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.