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Durnuu
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Durnuu
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On April 15 2020 18:39 pvsnp wrote: 0.39% to advance, ouch. That means there is a chance! | ||
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On April 15 2020 18:40 TheOneAboveU wrote: Why is Artosis calling him 'kaywhyan'?! Shouldn't it be 'keeweean'? Artosis isn't known for correct pronunciation above all else. It's kiwi like the fruit though, yes. | ||
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On April 15 2020 18:42 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 18:40 TheOneAboveU wrote: Why is Artosis calling him 'kaywhyan'?! Shouldn't it be 'keeweean'? Artosis isn't known for correct pronunciation above all else. It's kiwi like the fruit though, yes. One would think EyedrA would've taught him a lesson, but alas. | ||
Durnuu
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On April 15 2020 18:43 TheOneAboveU wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 18:42 Elentos wrote: On April 15 2020 18:40 TheOneAboveU wrote: Why is Artosis calling him 'kaywhyan'?! Shouldn't it be 'keeweean'? Artosis isn't known for correct pronunciation above all else. It's kiwi like the fruit though, yes. One would think EyedrA would've taught him a lesson, but alas. Artosis still can't make the difference between Colossus and Colossi, give him a break | ||
Durnuu
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Too bad Rogue has OL speed I think he didn't even kill a queen ![]() | ||
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Elentos
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On April 15 2020 18:44 Durnuu wrote: Avocadoian with the sick mind games already Too bad Rogue has OL speed I think he didn't even kill a queen ![]() Yeah all the queens lived. | ||
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On April 15 2020 18:56 Elentos wrote: When you're this much worse than your opponent I can hardly think of a worse build to do than 2/1/1. Already sucks on even skill. Preach brother, I'd be going double starport BC or something equally stupid | ||
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On April 15 2020 19:00 Schelim wrote: how did TOP qualify? He beat a bunch of amateur players and then somehow also Patience. | ||
Andi_Goldberger
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On April 15 2020 19:00 Schelim wrote: how did TOP qualify? he proxy 1/1/1d patience 3 times in the qualifiying match. the rest of his matches were TvT and hes best at TvT by far | ||
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Elentos
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On April 15 2020 19:01 Andi_Goldberger wrote: he proxy 1/1/1d patience 3 times in the qualifiying match. the rest of his matches were TvT and hes best at TvT by far He had a losing record in TvT across the 2 days of GSL qualifiers against Dynamite and Percival. If that's his best match-up, well... | ||
Andi_Goldberger
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On April 15 2020 19:05 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 19:01 Andi_Goldberger wrote: On April 15 2020 19:00 Schelim wrote: how did TOP qualify? he proxy 1/1/1d patience 3 times in the qualifiying match. the rest of his matches were TvT and hes best at TvT by far He had a losing record in TvT across the 2 days of GSL qualifiers against Dynamite and Percival. If that's his best match-up, well... well it was good enough for him to win the deciding game :D | ||
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Mozdk
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She does have the creep spread though. | ||
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NoS-Craig
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GG to Inno game 1. I really enjoyed the aggression that game. | ||
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Elentos
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On April 15 2020 19:21 pvsnp wrote: Were there any banelings before the last fight? Seemed like ling/hydra the whole time, which trades horribly against marine/tank. She morphed her first banelings in front of the hatchery so INno's first push cancelled them all and she didn't have time to make new ones until she was dead basically. | ||
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On April 15 2020 19:38 Morbidius wrote: Tbh Scarlett is getting beaten up as badly as Top. I wouldn't go that far but inno had an answer to everything Scarlett threw at him. | ||
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On April 15 2020 19:39 Aelendis wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 19:38 Morbidius wrote: Tbh Scarlett is getting beaten up as badly as Top. I wouldn't go that far but inno had an answer to everything Scarlett threw at him. I don't know, I think that nydus/SH attempt was the saddest GSL moment since Rogue melting down vs Neeb | ||
Durnuu
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On April 15 2020 19:41 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 19:39 Aelendis wrote: On April 15 2020 19:38 Morbidius wrote: Tbh Scarlett is getting beaten up as badly as Top. I wouldn't go that far but inno had an answer to everything Scarlett threw at him. I don't know, I think that nydus/SH attempt was the saddest GSL moment since Rogue melting down vs Neeb Neeb is an american god you hater | ||
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On April 15 2020 19:42 Morbidius wrote: At least now we will have what we came for, a discussion on whether Rogue is better than Serral based on a single BO3. Can we focus on trash talking 1 foreigner at a time? | ||
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On April 15 2020 19:55 Fango wrote: Would it have been possible to tight wall the zerg natural with two bunkers on this map? With just 2 bunkers? No, it has 2 exits. | ||
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Penev
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Pande's lack of passion is understandable | ||
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fastr
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On April 15 2020 20:00 Ej_ wrote: So is it plausible that after becoming the World Champion, Rogue will shit the bed against Scarlett in ro32 for a second time in his career? He's still the huge favorite but Rogue is also the undisputed bed shitting world champion | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:01 Elentos wrote: This group is the group of tilt GGs. We've had "ggg", "g" into "gg", Korean gg, and 180 supply GG. So we're missing an IdrA GG, a FanTaSy GG, and what else? | ||
sparklyresidue
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On April 15 2020 20:02 TheOneAboveU wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:01 Elentos wrote: This group is the group of tilt GGs. We've had "ggg", "g" into "gg", Korean gg, and 180 supply GG. So we're missing an IdrA GG, a FanTaSy GG, and what else? Naniwa GG? is that a thing? | ||
fastr
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On April 15 2020 20:02 TheOneAboveU wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:01 Elentos wrote: This group is the group of tilt GGs. We've had "ggg", "g" into "gg", Korean gg, and 180 supply GG. So we're missing an IdrA GG, a FanTaSy GG, and what else? A Parting "NO GG?" | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:02 fastr wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:02 TheOneAboveU wrote: On April 15 2020 20:01 Elentos wrote: This group is the group of tilt GGs. We've had "ggg", "g" into "gg", Korean gg, and 180 supply GG. So we're missing an IdrA GG, a FanTaSy GG, and what else? A Parting "NO GG?" Yeees, that's good! On April 15 2020 20:03 Elentos wrote: Inno proxy raxes so much he really shouldn't catch people off-guard much anymore. Worked for Maru since the beginning of his career, so why not for Inno too? ![]() | ||
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I guess Maru was just like "Yknow, the winrate of proxy 2rax in tournaments is insane." | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:05 pvsnp wrote: You know as it so happens, Maru was streaming yesterday and Inno started messaging him asking for tips. I guess Maru was just like "The winrate of proxy 2rax in tournaments is insane." Rogue: Top 10 Anime Betrayal of All Time | ||
pvsnp
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On April 15 2020 20:06 fastr wrote: I wonder if this is some kind of statement from Inno, along the lines of "Rogue can't adapt and will blindly go hatch first every game" or "he can't micro to save his life" More like "I decided to just play like Maru." | ||
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stilt
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He could have killed 2 more queens with the bc | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:07 Ej_ wrote: Does anyone remember that week when character reading was broken or something and everyone typed '??' ? If you watch Inno on ladder or in online tournaments you'd think that was still around cause he goes ? every game. | ||
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TheOneAboveU
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On April 15 2020 20:09 pvsnp wrote: Oh look it's the Reynor evo placement, right at the front. Ironically, Reynor just criticised that placement on stream. :D | ||
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fastr
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Really happy Inno 2-0 this fool! | ||
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pvsnp
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On April 15 2020 20:09 TheOneAboveU wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:09 pvsnp wrote: Oh look it's the Reynor evo placement, right at the front. Ironically, Reynor just criticised that placement on stream. :D Wasn't Reynor saying he does it even though it's a terrible idea? | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:10 Elentos wrote: Expected outcome, unexpected execution. Inno proxied like half his games in StayAtHomeStory Cup. damn, just play like Maru is a Korean meme now ![]() | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:05 Elentos wrote: The online-Inno classic of "?" instead of gg is also missing. Also the Uthermal gg "xD" | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:11 Zetter wrote: So many stomps today. My bet is it will continue like this with the next 2 series. maybe the ZvZ will be closer but you're probably right | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:12 pvsnp wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:09 TheOneAboveU wrote: On April 15 2020 20:09 pvsnp wrote: Oh look it's the Reynor evo placement, right at the front. Ironically, Reynor just criticised that placement on stream. :D Wasn't Reynor saying he does it even though it's a terrible idea? Yeah, he did that as well. | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:13 Lorning wrote: Hah, It's nice the Nestea award is still a thing It really doesn't mean much anymore now though. | ||
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darklycid
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On April 15 2020 20:21 parksonsc wrote: It feels like Korean Zergs are so good in their peaks but looks so bad sometimes. Rogue turned from beating Maru and winning IEM into this clown bo3. I think Rogue just chills rn after winning IEM he has done it in the past too. | ||
Elentos
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On April 15 2020 20:21 darklycid wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:21 parksonsc wrote: It feels like Korean Zergs are so good in their peaks but looks so bad sometimes. Rogue turned from beating Maru and winning IEM into this clown bo3. I think Rogue just chills rn after winning IEM he has done it in the past too. Yeah Rogue doesn't have to try hard and perform in tournaments until next March basically. | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:24 Morbidius wrote: Are the games today really bad or i am just being spoiled by ASL? both edit: tbf that was the semifinals, this is the ro20 something | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:24 Morbidius wrote: Are the games today really bad or i am just being spoiled by ASL? They're bad but with this group it's not exactly shocking. | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:27 Mozdk wrote: Why is she so slow on the baneling nest. There's no reason to cut corners vs this dude. Are you expecting critical decision making from a Starcraft player? | ||
pvsnp
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On April 15 2020 20:22 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:21 darklycid wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 parksonsc wrote: It feels like Korean Zergs are so good in their peaks but looks so bad sometimes. Rogue turned from beating Maru and winning IEM into this clown bo3. I think Rogue just chills rn after winning IEM he has done it in the past too. Yeah Rogue doesn't have to try hard and perform in tournaments until next March basically. Yknow I think Rogue might be the #1 player when it comes to effort/money ratio. He tries hard just long enough to win the big bucks. | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:28 pvsnp wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:22 Elentos wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 darklycid wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 parksonsc wrote: It feels like Korean Zergs are so good in their peaks but looks so bad sometimes. Rogue turned from beating Maru and winning IEM into this clown bo3. I think Rogue just chills rn after winning IEM he has done it in the past too. Yeah Rogue doesn't have to try hard and perform in tournaments until next March basically. Yknow I think Rogue might be the #1 player when it comes to effort/money ratio. He tries hard just long enough to win the big bucks. sounds like $o$? And Maru might be the #1 player when it comes to him not being surrounded by strangers lol | ||
Elentos
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On April 15 2020 20:32 parksonsc wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:28 pvsnp wrote: On April 15 2020 20:22 Elentos wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 darklycid wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 parksonsc wrote: It feels like Korean Zergs are so good in their peaks but looks so bad sometimes. Rogue turned from beating Maru and winning IEM into this clown bo3. I think Rogue just chills rn after winning IEM he has done it in the past too. Yeah Rogue doesn't have to try hard and perform in tournaments until next March basically. Yknow I think Rogue might be the #1 player when it comes to effort/money ratio. He tries hard just long enough to win the big bucks. sounds like $o$? And Maru might be the #1 player when it comes to him not being surrounded by strangers lol sOs before his 5 year streak of not winning anything you mean. | ||
Morbidius
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On April 15 2020 20:32 parksonsc wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:28 pvsnp wrote: On April 15 2020 20:22 Elentos wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 darklycid wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 parksonsc wrote: It feels like Korean Zergs are so good in their peaks but looks so bad sometimes. Rogue turned from beating Maru and winning IEM into this clown bo3. I think Rogue just chills rn after winning IEM he has done it in the past too. Yeah Rogue doesn't have to try hard and perform in tournaments until next March basically. Yknow I think Rogue might be the #1 player when it comes to effort/money ratio. He tries hard just long enough to win the big bucks. sounds like $o$? And Maru might be the #1 player when it comes to him not being surrounded by strangers lol sOs has the 2 flops in GSL finals against him tho. When Rogue gets deep into a tournament he usually takes it. | ||
Durnuu
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On April 15 2020 20:33 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:32 parksonsc wrote: On April 15 2020 20:28 pvsnp wrote: On April 15 2020 20:22 Elentos wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 darklycid wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 parksonsc wrote: It feels like Korean Zergs are so good in their peaks but looks so bad sometimes. Rogue turned from beating Maru and winning IEM into this clown bo3. I think Rogue just chills rn after winning IEM he has done it in the past too. Yeah Rogue doesn't have to try hard and perform in tournaments until next March basically. Yknow I think Rogue might be the #1 player when it comes to effort/money ratio. He tries hard just long enough to win the big bucks. sounds like $o$? And Maru might be the #1 player when it comes to him not being surrounded by strangers lol sOs before his 5 year streak of not winning anything you mean. Yeah, the good version of sOs, not the guy that replaced him in LotV | ||
Durnuu
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On April 15 2020 20:34 Morbidius wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:32 parksonsc wrote: On April 15 2020 20:28 pvsnp wrote: On April 15 2020 20:22 Elentos wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 darklycid wrote: On April 15 2020 20:21 parksonsc wrote: It feels like Korean Zergs are so good in their peaks but looks so bad sometimes. Rogue turned from beating Maru and winning IEM into this clown bo3. I think Rogue just chills rn after winning IEM he has done it in the past too. Yeah Rogue doesn't have to try hard and perform in tournaments until next March basically. Yknow I think Rogue might be the #1 player when it comes to effort/money ratio. He tries hard just long enough to win the big bucks. sounds like $o$? And Maru might be the #1 player when it comes to him not being surrounded by strangers lol sOs has the 2 flops in GSL finals against him tho. When Rogue gets deep into a tournament he usually takes it. How many Ro8 flops does Rogue have? ![]() | ||
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used to love oGs.TOP way back when | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:35 Schelim wrote: kinda sad this is basically a 3 player group used to love oGs.TOP way back when 3 player? | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:40 Durnuu wrote: Fried oreos? Jesus christ They're actually delicious. Super unhealthy, but delicious. | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:45 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:35 Schelim wrote: kinda sad this is basically a 3 player group used to love oGs.TOP way back when 3 player? 3 good players minus Fruit player is the implication | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:45 Penev wrote: TOP is technically still in GSL Great point | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:47 sparklyresidue wrote: Great point I'm curious about your diet but you should wipe | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:45 Penev wrote: TOP is technically still in GSL not anymore | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:53 Penev wrote: well at least the road captain looked strong The needs a captain's hat. | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:54 Elentos wrote: The needs a captain's hat. The el capital hat from HSC | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:58 Penev wrote: oh yeah, that's what crowds look like Imagine that, actual footage of "crowds" and "people". | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:56 Argonauta wrote: this thread is better than the group today.... That says something uh? ZvZ is gonna save the day, go Scarlett! | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:55 Penev wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:54 Elentos wrote: On April 15 2020 20:53 Penev wrote: well at least the road captain looked strong The needs a captain's hat. The el capital hat from HSC Did we ever find out why it says Capital? Cause I don't think that means captain. | ||
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On April 15 2020 20:59 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 20:55 Penev wrote: On April 15 2020 20:54 Elentos wrote: On April 15 2020 20:53 Penev wrote: well at least the road captain looked strong The needs a captain's hat. The el capital hat from HSC Did we ever find out why it says Capital? Cause I don't think that means captain. afraid not, must be just a mistake though it does mean "Das Kapital" in Spanish | ||
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On April 15 2020 21:06 Zetter wrote: Seriously though, how did Rogue not expect that? I feel like he should have expected somehting since he saw Scarlett finishing her expansion later than he did. | ||
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On April 15 2020 21:07 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:06 Zetter wrote: Seriously though, how did Rogue not expect that? I feel like he should have expected somehting since he saw Scarlett finishing her expansion later than he did. Yea, exactly. It should've been pretty obvious she was at least going for some pressure. But Rogue didn't build any defense whatsoever. | ||
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On April 15 2020 21:06 Durnuu wrote: Cheesiest zerg on the planet cheesing? NO FUCKING WAY Scarlett is no Bly. Scarlett had some really fantastic macro ZvZ games a while ago. Admittedly, it's been a while. | ||
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On April 15 2020 21:09 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:06 Durnuu wrote: Cheesiest zerg on the planet cheesing? NO FUCKING WAY Scarlett is no Bly. Scarlett had some really fantastic macro ZvZ games a while ago. Admittedly, it's been a while. In HotS, maybe | ||
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On April 15 2020 21:07 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:06 Zetter wrote: Seriously though, how did Rogue not expect that? I feel like he should have expected somehting since he saw Scarlett finishing her expansion later than he did. Korean ZvZ man. I know it's a meme but they really ignore a lot of specifics when it comes to build orders for some reason. | ||
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On April 15 2020 21:10 Durnuu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:09 HolydaKing wrote: On April 15 2020 21:06 Durnuu wrote: Cheesiest zerg on the planet cheesing? NO FUCKING WAY Scarlett is no Bly. Scarlett had some really fantastic macro ZvZ games a while ago. Admittedly, it's been a while. In HotS, maybe ![]() | ||
Aelendis
Belgium892 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:10 sparklyresidue wrote: what's the point of the spawning pool near the ramp? Well against that build you can go three evos to make a detour for the drones making the spines. But Rogue didn't do it. | ||
Xain0n
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HeroSandro
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
And looks like Maru gearing up to solo carry Jin Air across the finish line. | ||
Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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Jatlantis1
Australia11 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
Always feel good when koreans get the other end of the stick. | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ I bet you forgot how Leenock kicked Rogue out of Code S S2 last year. | ||
blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:13 Aelendis wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:10 sparklyresidue wrote: what's the point of the spawning pool near the ramp? Well against that build you can go three evos to make a detour for the drones making the spines. But Rogue didn't do it. It doesn't work on this map | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
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darklycid
3486 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:14 Kaizor wrote: I still remember the days when korean pros just cheesed against foreigners and win because they know foreigners couldn't handle it. Always feel good when koreans get the other end of the stick. Back then it was because they just executed it way better this time rogue just play hatch first 2 times, and scarlett almost messed it up in game 2 ![]() | ||
Argonauta
Spain4915 Posts
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Durnuu
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Ej_
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LemonyTang
United Kingdom428 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:15 darklycid wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:14 Kaizor wrote: I still remember the days when korean pros just cheesed against foreigners and win because they know foreigners couldn't handle it. Always feel good when koreans get the other end of the stick. Back then it was because they just executed it way better this time rogue just play hatch first 2 times, and scarlett almost messed it up in game 2 ![]() Koreans hardly expect foreigners to cheese unless they are known cheesers like Has. Rogue really underestimated Scarlett here. | ||
fastr
France901 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ You're a Rogue fan and I hate him so we're both biased, but this is what I eluded to earlier when I said Inno made a statement about him when he proxy'd him twice and Rogue always went hatch first. Either Rogue is cocky and thinks he can defend every build with hatch first, or he's incapable to prepare and adapt to his opponent. What's worst, being cocky or lazy? | ||
Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:17 Ej_ wrote: I hate it too when the clearly better player gets 2-0d like a little bitch :/ is he the clearly better player then? | ||
Varanice
United States1517 Posts
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darklycid
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On April 15 2020 21:17 Kaizor wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:15 darklycid wrote: On April 15 2020 21:14 Kaizor wrote: I still remember the days when korean pros just cheesed against foreigners and win because they know foreigners couldn't handle it. Always feel good when koreans get the other end of the stick. Back then it was because they just executed it way better this time rogue just play hatch first 2 times, and scarlett almost messed it up in game 2 ![]() Koreans hardly expect foreigners to cheese unless they are known cheesers like Has. Rogue really underestimated Scarlett here. Because scarlett is not known for cheesing in the gsl ![]() | ||
Argonauta
Spain4915 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:17 fastr wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ You're a Rogue fan and I hate him so we're both biased, but this is what I eluded to earlier when I said Inno made a statement about him when he proxy'd him twice and Rogue always went hatch first. Either Rogue is cocky and thinks he can defend every build with hatch first, or he's incapable to prepare and adapt to his opponent. What's worst, being cocky or lazy? why you hate him? | ||
blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:17 fastr wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ You're a Rogue fan and I hate him so we're both biased, but this is what I eluded to earlier when I said Inno made a statement about him when he proxy'd him twice and Rogue always went hatch first. Either Rogue is cocky and thinks he can defend every build with hatch first, or he's incapable to prepare and adapt to his opponent. What's worst, being cocky or lazy? You can defend the first build with hatch first, Rogue was just bad that game honestly. Second game, every pro has complained about 12 pool drone pull on that map but it's holdable with pool before gas, I don't see any reason to go gas before pool on a map like this but...korean zvz | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:18 Ej_ wrote: Also massive lol at people saying "just pool first" He should've definitely gone pool before gas (not pool first obv) on a map where every zerg pro has commented on the strength of 12 pool drone pull. | ||
Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:17 fastr wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ You're a Rogue fan and I hate him so we're both biased, but this is what I eluded to earlier when I said Inno made a statement about him when he proxy'd him twice and Rogue always went hatch first. Either Rogue is cocky and thinks he can defend every build with hatch first, or he's incapable to prepare and adapt to his opponent. What's worst, being cocky or lazy? I slated him twice today, he was unprepared, responded poorly and just played like he had his brain completely switched off. Honestly deserved to be eliminated, but just saying its not good for the game because Scarlett is a lot worse as a player and will not bring anything to the game just more of bullshit like this. I want to see the best players duke it out in the latter stages... Oh well | ||
fastr
France901 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:18 Argonauta wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:17 fastr wrote: On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ You're a Rogue fan and I hate him so we're both biased, but this is what I eluded to earlier when I said Inno made a statement about him when he proxy'd him twice and Rogue always went hatch first. Either Rogue is cocky and thinks he can defend every build with hatch first, or he's incapable to prepare and adapt to his opponent. What's worst, being cocky or lazy? why you hate him? I'll admit it's pretty irrational but his games today is a good exemple of his coinflippy style of play. That and he also cheesed out a lot of strong players out of big tournaments. On the other hand, he has an impressive late game, which is why it boggles my mind that 1: he cheese so much 2: he plays so greedy against cheesy players he should beat. | ||
Ej_
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pvsnp
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parksonsc
175 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:22 fastr wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:18 Argonauta wrote: On April 15 2020 21:17 fastr wrote: On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ You're a Rogue fan and I hate him so we're both biased, but this is what I eluded to earlier when I said Inno made a statement about him when he proxy'd him twice and Rogue always went hatch first. Either Rogue is cocky and thinks he can defend every build with hatch first, or he's incapable to prepare and adapt to his opponent. What's worst, being cocky or lazy? why you hate him? I'll admit it's pretty irrational but his games today is a good exemple of his coinflippy style of play. That and he also cheesed out a lot of strong players out of big tournaments. On the other hand, he has an impressive late game, which is why it boggles my mind that 1: he cheese so much 2: he plays so greedy against cheesy players he should beat. This also sounds like Maru, who could have won Blizzcon if he did not cheese sOs, who he should 1000% beat in a macro game. Jinair players are hard to understand. | ||
dysenterymd
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:21 MarianoSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:17 fastr wrote: On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ You're a Rogue fan and I hate him so we're both biased, but this is what I eluded to earlier when I said Inno made a statement about him when he proxy'd him twice and Rogue always went hatch first. Either Rogue is cocky and thinks he can defend every build with hatch first, or he's incapable to prepare and adapt to his opponent. What's worst, being cocky or lazy? I slated him twice today, he was unprepared, responded poorly and just played like he had his brain completely switched off. Honestly deserved to be eliminated, but just saying its not good for the game because Scarlett is a lot worse as a player and will not bring anything to the game just more of bullshit like this. I want to see the best players duke it out in the latter stages... Oh well at least we will see some preparation instead of Rogue's ignoring the preparation. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point | ||
swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. | ||
SharkStarcraft
Austria2225 Posts
also why tf does he build his pool so far out in the open? might have been holdable had it been behind his minerals right? | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:28 parksonsc wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:22 fastr wrote: On April 15 2020 21:18 Argonauta wrote: On April 15 2020 21:17 fastr wrote: On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ You're a Rogue fan and I hate him so we're both biased, but this is what I eluded to earlier when I said Inno made a statement about him when he proxy'd him twice and Rogue always went hatch first. Either Rogue is cocky and thinks he can defend every build with hatch first, or he's incapable to prepare and adapt to his opponent. What's worst, being cocky or lazy? why you hate him? I'll admit it's pretty irrational but his games today is a good exemple of his coinflippy style of play. That and he also cheesed out a lot of strong players out of big tournaments. On the other hand, he has an impressive late game, which is why it boggles my mind that 1: he cheese so much 2: he plays so greedy against cheesy players he should beat. This also sounds like Maru, who could have won Blizzcon if he did not cheese sOs, who he should 1000% beat in a macro game. Jinair players are hard to understand. If only Maru had the same in-house match results between him and sOs that parkson has... I'm sure his strategy choice would have been better then. | ||
Z3nith
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. | ||
Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On April 15 2020 22:31 Morbidius wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. Tier 2 koreans like Innovation who just stomped this Code S group, you mean? Yours is such a poor attempt it's laughable xd | ||
Starecat
937 Posts
THIS IS WHAT ZVZ SHOULD LOOK LIKE | ||
Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On April 15 2020 22:46 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 22:31 Morbidius wrote: On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. Tier 2 koreans like Innovation who just stomped this Code S group, you mean? Yours is such a poor attempt it's laughable xd Poor attempts are his series against top Protoss players in Katowice, players who proceed to get destroyed in the finals by a Zerg who didn't even get out of his GSL group. | ||
ScrappyRabbit
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seemsgood
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On April 15 2020 22:55 Morbidius wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 22:46 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 22:31 Morbidius wrote: On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. Tier 2 koreans like Innovation who just stomped this Code S group, you mean? Yours is such a poor attempt it's laughable xd Poor attempts are his series against top Protoss players in Katowice, players who proceed to get destroyed in the finals by a Zerg who didn't even get out of his GSL group. So Dark and Maru are also shitty player who managed to lose to a player who got 0-2 in his group in the two match up? | ||
Elentos
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catplanetcatplanet
3829 Posts
On April 15 2020 18:52 Elentos wrote: Reminiscent of the great Proleague mismatches such as Stats vs Pet You take that back | ||
dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On April 15 2020 23:06 Nakajin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 22:55 Morbidius wrote: On April 15 2020 22:46 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 22:31 Morbidius wrote: On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. Tier 2 koreans like Innovation who just stomped this Code S group, you mean? Yours is such a poor attempt it's laughable xd Poor attempts are his series against top Protoss players in Katowice, players who proceed to get destroyed in the finals by a Zerg who didn't even get out of his GSL group. So Dark and Maru are also shitty player who managed to lose to a player who got 0-2 in his group in the two match up? Turns out at the highest Level everyone can beat everyone ![]() Suprising | ||
struct__
14 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:18 Varanice wrote: scarlett's adaptation after the first game was to just go faster. lmao gotta go fast. | ||
ssg
United States1771 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On April 16 2020 00:21 ssg wrote: Where can I see replays There you go + Show Spoiler + Unless you want in game replay in which case I don't think they are public. | ||
veniss
75 Posts
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SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
On April 15 2020 23:38 dbRic1203 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 23:06 Nakajin wrote: On April 15 2020 22:55 Morbidius wrote: On April 15 2020 22:46 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 22:31 Morbidius wrote: On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. Tier 2 koreans like Innovation who just stomped this Code S group, you mean? Yours is such a poor attempt it's laughable xd Poor attempts are his series against top Protoss players in Katowice, players who proceed to get destroyed in the finals by a Zerg who didn't even get out of his GSL group. So Dark and Maru are also shitty player who managed to lose to a player who got 0-2 in his group in the two match up? Turns out at the highest Level everyone can beat everyone ![]() Suprising Yeah, let's just say that the highest level of sc2 is unforgiving | ||
SlammerIV
United States526 Posts
On April 15 2020 22:31 Morbidius wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. Haha Innovation is a tier 2 Korean now? Did you watch him play today? | ||
Rubicant1
115 Posts
On April 15 2020 22:31 Morbidius wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. This makes no sense whatsoever. I'm more of a Maru guy personally, but you Serral anti-fanboys are truly starting to be insufferable on this forum. If you've ever caught their streams (on the very rare occasions it's happened), their mechanics, multi-tasking and decision-making are clearly a cut above the rest. Like, if you actually play this game with any knowledge or ability, you can't help but appreciate their play. They're both two of the best ever, and this constant snipping of them is pretty tired. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On April 16 2020 01:17 SlammerIV wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 22:31 Morbidius wrote: On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. Haha Innovation is a tier 2 Korean now? Did you watch him play today? He's no more Tier 1 IMO. That's just Maru. Inno is T1 only on his better days, maybe he will return to T1, so far he has good tourneys to not fall completely to T2. Edit> you can read it as T1,5. Sorry not sorry, compared to Dark or Maru Inno isn't either playing his best or his no more full T1 | ||
Mettis
84 Posts
On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ Lol what? | ||
Harris1st
Germany6923 Posts
On April 16 2020 02:35 Mettis wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 21:14 MarianoSC2 wrote: This is actually really crappy for the game to have such a player eliminated over someone so weak as Scarlett. But its his own fault I just dont get why not go pool first or build spines. How on earth did he not expect the shittiest cheese possible? :/ Lol what? Don't worry bout him. He is a Korean elitist and really butthurt after a foreigner win over a Korean | ||
virpi
Germany3598 Posts
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Penev
28475 Posts
On April 16 2020 01:59 Pandemona wrote: Damn i am sorry ![]() This was the group i wanted to watch as well haha. Don't feel too bad, it wasn't very good to put it mildly. | ||
Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
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jjmmtt
Australia995 Posts
On April 16 2020 04:01 Azzur wrote: Noregret should be banned, hahahahaha I just watched these games, hahahahah, Rogue, what a noob lol. He was not impressed. Make NoRegret illegal. Man, there have been some AMAZING games of Starcraft lately, both in SC1 and 2. It's a good time to be a Starcraft fan, truly. | ||
neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On April 16 2020 01:59 Pandemona wrote: Damn i am sorry ![]() This was the group i wanted to watch as well haha. Save yourself some time in two easy steps: 1. Remember that sometimes Innovation's form is super duper good. 2. Watch Scarlett vs Rogue. You'll be all caught up within 30 seconds. | ||
Rubicant1
115 Posts
On April 16 2020 03:03 virpi wrote: Rogue could have held in game 2, maybe he could have engaged a bit earlier during the ling/drone dance. But those engagements are decided by fractions. Game 1 basically was a BO win. If Rogue somehow scouts the lings early enough, he wins. But normally you just don't scout the main after seeing a hatch. Going "defensive" pool first would have helped, but that's a so-so opener, which puts you behind vs. macro hatch first. Rogue's reaction in Game 1 seemed odd/slow to me. Scarlett's hatch being almost 10 seconds later than his should have been a minor tell (at least more than making one set of lings) letting his queens get surrounded at the bottom of the ramp, late drone pulls. etc. Probably wouldn't have mattered much, but still. | ||
Topin
Peru10068 Posts
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Htime
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
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Htime
58 Posts
-Four dominant games of Inno showing his mechanical brilliance - a maestro a work, even Rogue looks overwhelmed -Four quick drama-free show matches with past contender TOP/Kiwian - a chance to reminisce about the past -A thrilling conclusion - Scarlett pulling off two of the most impressive cheese builds vs GSL/IEM Champ Rogue. That is two big upsets in a row in Groups A and B, both at the expense of Jin Air, and I wonder if we see Creator advance as he is probably the weakest player in his difficult Group D. | ||
Chemist391
United States366 Posts
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rednusa
651 Posts
On April 16 2020 09:09 Chemist391 wrote: After so many years of watching foreigners fall to Korean cheese, this felt pretty good. I wonder if Koreans cheese foreigners more than any of the other three combinations (koreans cheese koreans, foreigners cheese koreans, foreigners cheese foreigners). | ||
blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On April 16 2020 05:42 Rubicant1 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2020 03:03 virpi wrote: Rogue could have held in game 2, maybe he could have engaged a bit earlier during the ling/drone dance. But those engagements are decided by fractions. Game 1 basically was a BO win. If Rogue somehow scouts the lings early enough, he wins. But normally you just don't scout the main after seeing a hatch. Going "defensive" pool first would have helped, but that's a so-so opener, which puts you behind vs. macro hatch first. Rogue's reaction in Game 1 seemed odd/slow to me. Scarlett's hatch being almost 10 seconds later than his should have been a minor tell (at least more than making one set of lings) letting his queens get surrounded at the bottom of the ramp, late drone pulls. etc. Probably wouldn't have mattered much, but still. Game 1 was definitely not a BO win, you can hold that build with hatch first, otherwise everyone would just do it lol. There were obvious tells that something was up, and his decision to defend the bottom just made no sense. It's almost like he'd never seen it before because there's no way his response was objectively correct at all. Game 2 was honestly the bigger BO win, that build is OP on that map and you should go Hatch > Pool, rather than Hatch > Gas > Pool to be safer on that map. Evo block doesn't hold it on the map and the spine (even tho Scarlett didn't do this) hits the natural from the high ground if you position it correctly, regardless of spawn positions. The only reason Game 2 was close at all is because Scarlett made mistakes with the execution, and even then, she won. If she'd executed a bit cleaner, it's very hard to defend. | ||
Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25216 Posts
On April 16 2020 01:58 Rubicant1 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 22:31 Morbidius wrote: On April 15 2020 22:18 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:44 DBooN wrote: On April 15 2020 21:35 sudete wrote: On April 15 2020 21:32 Xain0n wrote: On April 15 2020 21:15 deacon.frost wrote: So we have foreigner in the RO16 because Rogue forgot his brain in the changing room or what? This doesn't look very good for JAGW considering the company is probably hit by covid crisis Come on, have you watched TOP today? Scarlett is not a random "foreigner", she's a mainstay in Code S right now. Also, that's just Rogue:he is extremely inconsistent for such a top tier player, it's not the first time he gets eliminated early in a relevant tournament. Also, post-Katowice champion slump for the nth year running. I don't know if it's purely a mental thing but the link is hard to deny at this point Also explains, why serral is so consistent. I'm not sure if he would, but I think that me and you guys would happily trade his consistency for a Katowice title at this point. I'm sure he enjoys his HSC consistency against tier 2 koreans with 200 ping more than a Katowice title. This makes no sense whatsoever. I'm more of a Maru guy personally, but you Serral anti-fanboys are truly starting to be insufferable on this forum. If you've ever caught their streams (on the very rare occasions it's happened), their mechanics, multi-tasking and decision-making are clearly a cut above the rest. Like, if you actually play this game with any knowledge or ability, you can't help but appreciate their play. They're both two of the best ever, and this constant snipping of them is pretty tired. Here here. I’m pretty excited with Inno’s shape at the minute, both him and Maru look sharp which bodes well for an interesting season if they can keep it up. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland25216 Posts
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8231 Posts
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
Game 1 was definitely not a BO win, you can hold that build with hatch first, otherwise everyone would just do it lol. There were obvious tells that something was up, and his decision to defend the bottom just made no sense. It's almost like he'd never seen it before because there's no way his response was objectively correct at all. What really baffles me is that Rogue didn't play safer in that game. He could haved peeked at the larva / drone count at Scarlett's nat, the hatch timing also was a small tell (creep!). Then he failed to block his ramp. Let's put it this way: It's not a BO win, if you read the opponent properly. It almost looked like he went "Oh she expanded, let's go macro mode." without even thinking about the possibility of a cheese. I went for this build in my ladder session yesterday, on my skill level (4,6k rn) it works better than it should. But that doesn't mean anything, because pros are 100 levels above me. | ||
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