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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On December 24 2019 02:34 Boggyb wrote: Literally half the series in Group A ended in a 1-1 tie. You think that's an improvement on anything? Yes. I prefer that we get more matchups rather than having to play a third decisive map. It's particularly good when combined with prize money for every map win, like they did at HSC. | ||
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On December 24 2019 19:32 sneakyfox wrote: Yes. I prefer that we get more matchups rather than having to play a third decisive map. It's particularly good when combined with prize money for every map win, like they did at HSC. I don't see how the Bo2s result in more matchups above and beyond those provided by the round robin format which frequently results in tiebreakers when best of 3s are played. That additional tiebreaker is also significantly less Starcraft than every match that ended with a 1-1 tie getting a third game. | ||
CynicalDeath
Italy3656 Posts
On December 24 2019 02:34 Boggyb wrote: Why on earth does Liquipedia not have the results in the standard Wins-Losses-Ties format? ...on the SC2 wiki we have always used the WTL system so idk why a WLT should be the "standard" tbh... | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On December 24 2019 23:02 Boggyb wrote: I don't see how the Bo2s result in more matchups above and beyond those provided by the round robin format which frequently results in tiebreakers when best of 3s are played. That additional tiebreaker is also significantly less Starcraft than every match that ended with a 1-1 tie getting a third game. My point is that the Bo2 format makes a round robin shorter, so it is viable in more situations than when it uses Bo3 because then it is often not used because of time constraints. I think RR is a great format because we get to see more players match up. | ||
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WardiTV
599 Posts
On December 25 2019 01:28 sneakyfox wrote: My point is that the Bo2 format makes a round robin shorter, so it is viable in more situations than when it uses Bo3 because then it is often not used because of time constraints. I think RR is a great format because we get to see more players match up. This. BO2 allows you to do larger round robins and keep it on track and put out a pretty reliable length of stream. 8 BO3s can be 16 maps or 24, which is a huge variance whereas if you know it will be 16 maps only you have much better control on how it is played. In smaller round robins this doesn't matter because there are less matches to cover and the variance is smaller anyways. | ||
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On December 25 2019 00:46 CynicalDeath wrote: ...on the SC2 wiki we have always used the WTL system so idk why a WLT should be the "standard" tbh... Does anyone in the English speaking world use WTL for sports? Because I've literally never seen it in the U.S. up until now. Football and Boxing the only sports where ties or draws are somewhat common. | ||
digmouse
China6331 Posts
On December 25 2019 05:16 Boggyb wrote: Does anyone in the English speaking world use WTL for sports? Because I've literally never seen it in the U.S. up until now. Football and Boxing the only sports where ties or draws are somewhat common. The actual football? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Premier_League#League_table https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_UEFA_Champions_League#Group_A | ||
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sneakyfox
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On December 28 2019 19:32 sneakyfox wrote: Live in 30 minutes. Is Wardi streaming today? Yes he will. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Thanks. Here we go: https://tl.net/video/streams/WardiTV/ | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On December 28 2019 20:25 sneakyfox wrote: Wonder if TY will at least play some bio against BreakingGG. He shouldn't need the strongest strategy to win there. He 2-0'd Solar with bio in AlphaX the other day. Maybe gonna depend on the maps. And on how much he feels like ruining his wrists. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On December 28 2019 20:30 Elentos wrote: He 2-0'd Solar with bio in AlphaX the other day. Maybe gonna depend on the maps. And on how much he feels like ruining his wrists. Oh, cool. Wonder if we will see that again later. Only mech so far today. | ||
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thickertom
China612 Posts
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On December 17 2019 19:14 digmouse wrote: 24 players are split into 4 groups of 6 each, played in a best of 2 round robin format, top 4 in total map wins advance to single elimination playoffs. Just so I understand this correctly, the tie breaker is map wins and not matches. So TIME can't win the group by winning all his matches today because he would be 8-2 in maps but went 0-2 against TY who also went 8-2. And since Solar lost a map to TRUE now, he also can at best go 8-2. So depending on the result of TIME vs Solar either TY wins the group or there's a possible tie between Solar and TY. | ||
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
On December 29 2019 20:48 Elentos wrote: Just so I understand this correctly, the tie breaker is map wins and not matches. So TIME can't win the group by winning all his matches today because he would be 8-2 in maps but went 0-2 against TY who also went 8-2. And since Solar lost a map to TRUE now, he also can at best go 8-2. So depending on the result of TIME vs Solar either TY wins the group or there's a possible tie between Solar and TY. Correct, group standings are determine by map wins only. A map win tie would mean a best of 1 tiebreaker. | ||
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thickertom
China612 Posts
Oh, my god!  BreakingGG got the fourth place. | ||
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thickertom
China612 Posts
On December 29 2019 21:49 digmouse wrote: Correct, group standings are determine by map wins only. A map win tie would mean a best of 1 tiebreaker. According to the rumor, if Solar 2-0 Nice, TY has no time to play the tiebreaker. Solar should be the first place. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On December 29 2019 23:19 thickertom wrote: According to the rumor, if Solar 2-0 Nice, TY has no time to play the tiebreaker. Solar should be the first place. You make it sound so mysterious. "The rumor". Wardi said all of TY's matches were yesterday because he can't play today. The tournament is so drawn out they could play the tie breaker any other day but giving 1st to Solar would be easier. But Nice Skytossed him. Really good performance from BreakingGG I have to say. | ||
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LennX
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