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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 10:48:49
December 17 2019 10:14 GMT
#1
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Before the actual fun of a new CTC season starts, here is something else to tide you over.

22 players from the 11 teams currently confirmed for CTC Season 3 and two direct invites will battle it out in an $4,300 individual tournament.

Full lineup:

DPG: (P)FireFly, (T)Cure
Jin Air: (P)Trap, (Z)Rex
Brave Star: (T)Dream, (P)Cyan
LP: (P)Jieshi, (Z)Impact
TSG: EF, (T)TY, (P)Nice, (Z)Solar, Star
PsiStorm: (Z)TRUE
Alpha X: (Z)BreakingGG
Cascade: (Z)SortOf
iG: (P)MacSed, (T)Coffee
Newbee: (P)Dear, (T)TIME
J Team: (P)Has
KaiZi: (T)Bunny, (T)INnoVation
Other: (Z)GogojOey

1st: CNY 6,000 ($857)
2nd: CNY 4,000 ($571)
3rd/4th: CNY 2,000 ($286)
5/8th: CNY 1,000 ($143)

In addition, every group stage map win is worth CNY 100 ($14) for a total of CNY 3000 ($429) per group, see format below for details.

Total prize money: CNY 30,000 ($4,288)

Format

24 players are split into 4 groups of 6 each, played in a best of 2 round robin format, top 4 in total map wins advance to single elimination playoffs. Each group stage map win is worth CNY 100 ($14), for a maximum of CNY 1,000 ($143) per player.

Schedule

Group A: December 22nd - 23rd, 2019
Group B: December 28th - 29th, 2019
Group C: January 5th - 6th, 2020
Group D: January 11th - 12th, 2020

Round of 16: January 17th - 18th, 2020
Round of 8: January 19th, 2020
Semis + Finals: January 20th, 2020

Broadcast starts at 11:00 GMT (+00:00) at https://www.twitch.tv/wardiii for English viewers.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
NaRae
Profile Joined January 2017
Korea (South)48 Posts
December 17 2019 10:30 GMT
#2
Are all 11 teams will participate in CTC 2010 regular season?
Tastyyyy
Profile Joined July 2018
Portugal95 Posts
December 17 2019 13:20 GMT
#3
Hum, so 11 teams...I guess its all the ones from the other CTC (except P1 and Ocean Gaming) + DPG right? Are any other teams on the horizon?

Cool tournament btw. Really important that these players have some off season tournaments so they can keep up with their adversaries and have some extra money.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-17 14:47:45
December 17 2019 14:47 GMT
#4
On December 17 2019 22:20 Tastyyyy wrote:
Hum, so 11 teams...I guess its all the ones from the other CTC (except P1 and Ocean Gaming) + DPG right? Are any other teams on the horizon?

Cool tournament btw. Really important that these players have some off season tournaments so they can keep up with their adversaries and have some extra money.

New teams are DPG and AlphaX. P1, Ocean Gaming and Black Night left the league.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Tastyyyy
Profile Joined July 2018
Portugal95 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-17 14:58:54
December 17 2019 14:58 GMT
#5
Ah damn...I had high hopes for that new Black Night squad...I thought they could evolve a ton their 15 year old players and stuff.

Alpha X...nice nice, so Astrea, BreakingGG and maybe *wink wink* DRGling (judging by is battletag in kr ladder)?? Or MaSa if he doesn't lag horribly
SeVpresty
Profile Joined May 2019
6 Posts
December 17 2019 15:00 GMT
#6
On December 17 2019 23:47 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2019 22:20 Tastyyyy wrote:
Hum, so 11 teams...I guess its all the ones from the other CTC (except P1 and Ocean Gaming) + DPG right? Are any other teams on the horizon?

Cool tournament btw. Really important that these players have some off season tournaments so they can keep up with their adversaries and have some extra money.

New teams are DPG and AlphaX. P1, Ocean Gaming and Black Night left the league.

PSI still in the league?
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
December 17 2019 16:26 GMT
#7
On December 18 2019 00:00 SeVpresty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2019 23:47 digmouse wrote:
On December 17 2019 22:20 Tastyyyy wrote:
Hum, so 11 teams...I guess its all the ones from the other CTC (except P1 and Ocean Gaming) + DPG right? Are any other teams on the horizon?

Cool tournament btw. Really important that these players have some off season tournaments so they can keep up with their adversaries and have some extra money.

New teams are DPG and AlphaX. P1, Ocean Gaming and Black Night left the league.

PSI still in the league?


I will say about the thing whether Sakura could participate in CTC2020S1.

I don't know whether Pengwin could see the message.

I just say the fact that in a tournament (Chinese CSL 2019), Sakura won his “apprentice”, 星空凛 (the ID is about a Japanese animated character, his match of the qualifier of WESG 2018 - 2019: https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzc3MzMyMDQ0NA==.html, a Terran player. Then, he abandoned and 星空凛 "won" the match. Netease has decided to inquire into the thing.
I love SC2
kubaPS
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany162 Posts
December 17 2019 16:41 GMT
#8
Pengwin is no longer team manager of PSISTORM:

https://twitter.com/psiPengWin/status/1202301091695779841?s=20
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 17 2019 16:50 GMT
#9
Chinese team flairs when?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
December 17 2019 16:59 GMT
#10
On December 18 2019 00:00 SeVpresty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2019 23:47 digmouse wrote:
On December 17 2019 22:20 Tastyyyy wrote:
Hum, so 11 teams...I guess its all the ones from the other CTC (except P1 and Ocean Gaming) + DPG right? Are any other teams on the horizon?

Cool tournament btw. Really important that these players have some off season tournaments so they can keep up with their adversaries and have some extra money.

New teams are DPG and AlphaX. P1, Ocean Gaming and Black Night left the league.

PSI still in the league?

As things stand, yes. Line up for pre season is out late today China time.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3530 Posts
December 17 2019 22:55 GMT
#11
(Wiki)Chinese Team Championship 2020/Pre-Season Event
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico674 Posts
December 18 2019 06:58 GMT
#12
On December 18 2019 01:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Chinese team flairs when?

The real question.
LiquipediaMexican Liquipedia staff and Terran player. I tweet things @DARKING665.
Tastyyyy
Profile Joined July 2018
Portugal95 Posts
December 18 2019 14:35 GMT
#13
Any updates on the players?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
December 18 2019 14:49 GMT
#14
Have asked for an update, will post when I have them.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-20 16:09:28
December 20 2019 16:03 GMT
#15
I am only sure that "the teams are true!" Astrea could be instead of other players from Alpha X. Rangarok might be replaced by SoO.

(Wiki)User:Thickertom/Chinese Team Championship 2020/Pre-Season Event
I love SC2
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
December 20 2019 16:10 GMT
#16
On December 21 2019 01:03 thickertom wrote:
I am only sure that "the teams are true!" Astrea could be instead of other players from Alpha X. Rangarok might be replaced by SoO.

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/User:Thickertom/Chinese_Team_Championship_2020/Pre-Season_Event

How would Has fit into this picture? He's not on a CTC team and partnerships weren't allowed in the past. Also not the teams don't get even amounts of players into the tournament either?

Sounds so weird it has to be true.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
December 20 2019 16:25 GMT
#17
On December 21 2019 01:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2019 01:03 thickertom wrote:
I am only sure that "the teams are true!" Astrea could be instead of other players from Alpha X. Rangarok might be replaced by SoO.

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/User:Thickertom/Chinese_Team_Championship_2020/Pre-Season_Event

How would Has fit into this picture? He's not on a CTC team and partnerships weren't allowed in the past. Also not the teams don't get even amounts of players into the tournament either?

Sounds so weird it has to be true.


Except iG, all are one Chinese plus one foreigner:

Direct Invites: Has, TY
Newbee: TIME, Dear
KZ: (Nice), Innovation
PSI: (GogojOey), TRUE
Jinair: Rex, Trap
DPG: Firefly, Cure
LP: (Jieshi / QzDdb / Wanted), Impact
TSG: UnderStar, Solar
iG: MacSed, Coffee
Alpha X: (BKGG / Asuna / Mage), (Astrea / MaSa / JusticeSimon)
Chivo: TooDming, (Ragnarok / SoO)
BSG: Cyan, Dream
I love SC2
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
593 Posts
December 21 2019 10:58 GMT
#18
As a heads up I'll be streaming this, but I won't be here for the first day tomorrow.
Commentator
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-21 11:19:03
December 21 2019 11:13 GMT
#19
Sorry for the delay but here is the final lineup:

DPG: (P)FireFly, (T)Cure
Jin Air: (P)Trap, (Z)Rex
Brave Star: (T)Dream, (P)Cyan
LP: (P)Jieshi, (Z)Impact
TSG: EF, (T)TY, (P)Nice, (Z)Solar, Star
PsiStorm: (Z)TRUE
Alpha X: (Z)BreakingGG
Cascade: (Z)SortOf
iG: (P)MacSed, (T)Coffee
Newbee: (P)Dear, (T)TIME
J Team: (P)Has
KaiZi: (T)Bunny, (T)INnoVation
Other: (Z)GogojOey

Teams (and teamless status) are according to the official document I received, not necessarily reflecting their final participation status in CTC 2020.

Group A: (P)Trap, (T)Dream, (P)FireFly, (P)Jieshi, EF, (Z)SortOf
Group B: (Z)Solar, (T)TY, (T)TIME, (P)Nice, (Z)BreakingGG, (Z)TRUE
Group C: (T)INnoVation, (Z)Impact, (P)MacSed, (P)Has, (Z)Rex, Star
Group D: (T)Cure, (P)Cyan, (T)Coffee, (T)Bunny, (Z)GogojOey
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
IncarnatioN_
Profile Joined April 2018
Russian Federation38 Posts
December 21 2019 11:44 GMT
#20
P1 disbanded?
2020 is the year of terrans (i hope)
Tastyyyy
Profile Joined July 2018
Portugal95 Posts
December 21 2019 11:52 GMT
#21
Yeah P1 disbanded

So SortOf...is cascade going to be on CTC?? Hmmm hard to believe so, but its weird to me that they invite SortOf, he's pretty good but wasn't expecting it
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 21 2019 15:20 GMT
#22
Funny that TY is listed as a TSG player even though there still hasn't been any announcement.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
December 21 2019 21:25 GMT
#23
On December 21 2019 20:52 Tastyyyy wrote:
Yeah P1 disbanded

So SortOf...is cascade going to be on CTC?? Hmmm hard to believe so, but its weird to me that they invite SortOf, he's pretty good but wasn't expecting it

I think they invited has, sortof and gogojoey, weird but the others are the ones that people are kind of sure about
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
December 22 2019 10:28 GMT
#24
Do we know who is going to cast it?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-22 11:06:04
December 22 2019 11:05 GMT
#25
On December 22 2019 19:28 Argonauta wrote:
Do we know who is going to cast it?

Wardi will be casting from tomorrow. So today might be only Chinese stream?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 22 2019 11:05 GMT
#26
We are live, I guess? But only a Chinese stream?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
December 22 2019 11:08 GMT
#27
Chinese stream: https://www.douyu.com/3484
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
December 22 2019 11:14 GMT
#28
Jieshi 1-0 Trap
I love SC2
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
December 22 2019 11:22 GMT
#29
On December 22 2019 20:08 Elentos wrote:
Chinese stream: https://www.douyu.com/3484


thanks!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 22 2019 11:23 GMT
#30
On December 22 2019 20:08 Elentos wrote:
Chinese stream: https://www.douyu.com/3484


Boy that's a tough page to load
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-22 11:26:32
December 22 2019 11:26 GMT
#31
Also to not have the entire chat flowing across the stream hover your mouse over the little circular thing next to the volume meter and drag the slider from 100% to 0%. That will make the comments transparent.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
97 Posts
December 22 2019 11:41 GMT
#32
On December 22 2019 20:26 Elentos wrote:
Also to not have the entire chat flowing across the stream hover your mouse over the little circular thing next to the volume meter and drag the slider from 100% to 0%. That will make the comments transparent.


You can just click that circular thing to turn it off.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-22 12:06:17
December 22 2019 12:05 GMT
#33
watching this stream site layout you realize how different Chinese culture is.

Edit: Also Dream looks in good shape!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
December 22 2019 13:55 GMT
#34
Wardi will be covering day 1 from replays later.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England897 Posts
December 22 2019 16:48 GMT
#35
Yeah ill be looking through Day 1 replays at some point. I will be here tomorrow but might miss the start. Hype!
CommentatorOwner of WardiTV. Streamer, caster & event organizer. / / www.wardi.tv
lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
97 Posts
December 23 2019 12:13 GMT
#36
firefly 1-0 trap
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 23 2019 12:23 GMT
#37
Firefly is killing it lately.

Really like the Bo2s in round robin format. It's great that we see more and more of that.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
luOrb
Profile Joined August 2019
China6 Posts
December 23 2019 14:25 GMT
#38
On December 21 2019 20:52 Tastyyyy wrote:
Yeah P1 disbanded

So SortOf...is cascade going to be on CTC?? Hmmm hard to believe so, but its weird to me that they invite SortOf, he's pretty good but wasn't expecting it

It's just because he is in Korea and no lag in KR sever...
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 15:02:43
December 23 2019 14:33 GMT
#39
If Firefly lost to Jieshi, the 1-1 against EF was so fxxxxxh.

EDIT: the tie-break is bo1 and at last, Firefly got the fourth place of Group A.
I love SC2
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-23 17:53:47
December 23 2019 17:34 GMT
#40
Why on earth does Liquipedia not have the results in the standard Wins-Losses-Ties format?

On December 23 2019 21:23 sneakyfox wrote:
Firefly is killing it lately.

Really like the Bo2s in round robin format. It's great that we see more and more of that.

Literally half the series in Group A ended in a 1-1 tie. You think that's an improvement on anything?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 24 2019 10:32 GMT
#41
On December 24 2019 02:34 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2019 21:23 sneakyfox wrote:
Firefly is killing it lately.

Really like the Bo2s in round robin format. It's great that we see more and more of that.

Literally half the series in Group A ended in a 1-1 tie. You think that's an improvement on anything?


Yes. I prefer that we get more matchups rather than having to play a third decisive map. It's particularly good when combined with prize money for every map win, like they did at HSC.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-24 14:03:54
December 24 2019 14:02 GMT
#42
On December 24 2019 19:32 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2019 02:34 Boggyb wrote:
On December 23 2019 21:23 sneakyfox wrote:
Firefly is killing it lately.

Really like the Bo2s in round robin format. It's great that we see more and more of that.

Literally half the series in Group A ended in a 1-1 tie. You think that's an improvement on anything?


Yes. I prefer that we get more matchups rather than having to play a third decisive map. It's particularly good when combined with prize money for every map win, like they did at HSC.

I don't see how the Bo2s result in more matchups above and beyond those provided by the round robin format which frequently results in tiebreakers when best of 3s are played. That additional tiebreaker is also significantly less Starcraft than every match that ended with a 1-1 tie getting a third game.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3530 Posts
December 24 2019 15:46 GMT
#43
On December 24 2019 02:34 Boggyb wrote:
Why on earth does Liquipedia not have the results in the standard Wins-Losses-Ties format?

...on the SC2 wiki we have always used the WTL system so idk why a WLT should be the "standard" tbh...
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 24 2019 16:28 GMT
#44
On December 24 2019 23:02 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2019 19:32 sneakyfox wrote:
On December 24 2019 02:34 Boggyb wrote:
On December 23 2019 21:23 sneakyfox wrote:
Firefly is killing it lately.

Really like the Bo2s in round robin format. It's great that we see more and more of that.

Literally half the series in Group A ended in a 1-1 tie. You think that's an improvement on anything?


Yes. I prefer that we get more matchups rather than having to play a third decisive map. It's particularly good when combined with prize money for every map win, like they did at HSC.

I don't see how the Bo2s result in more matchups above and beyond those provided by the round robin format which frequently results in tiebreakers when best of 3s are played. That additional tiebreaker is also significantly less Starcraft than every match that ended with a 1-1 tie getting a third game.


My point is that the Bo2 format makes a round robin shorter, so it is viable in more situations than when it uses Bo3 because then it is often not used because of time constraints. I think RR is a great format because we get to see more players match up.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
593 Posts
December 24 2019 16:50 GMT
#45
On December 25 2019 01:28 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2019 23:02 Boggyb wrote:
On December 24 2019 19:32 sneakyfox wrote:
On December 24 2019 02:34 Boggyb wrote:
On December 23 2019 21:23 sneakyfox wrote:
Firefly is killing it lately.

Really like the Bo2s in round robin format. It's great that we see more and more of that.

Literally half the series in Group A ended in a 1-1 tie. You think that's an improvement on anything?


Yes. I prefer that we get more matchups rather than having to play a third decisive map. It's particularly good when combined with prize money for every map win, like they did at HSC.

I don't see how the Bo2s result in more matchups above and beyond those provided by the round robin format which frequently results in tiebreakers when best of 3s are played. That additional tiebreaker is also significantly less Starcraft than every match that ended with a 1-1 tie getting a third game.


My point is that the Bo2 format makes a round robin shorter, so it is viable in more situations than when it uses Bo3 because then it is often not used because of time constraints. I think RR is a great format because we get to see more players match up.


This. BO2 allows you to do larger round robins and keep it on track and put out a pretty reliable length of stream. 8 BO3s can be 16 maps or 24, which is a huge variance whereas if you know it will be 16 maps only you have much better control on how it is played. In smaller round robins this doesn't matter because there are less matches to cover and the variance is smaller anyways.
Commentator
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
December 24 2019 20:16 GMT
#46
On December 25 2019 00:46 CynicalDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2019 02:34 Boggyb wrote:
Why on earth does Liquipedia not have the results in the standard Wins-Losses-Ties format?

...on the SC2 wiki we have always used the WTL system so idk why a WLT should be the "standard" tbh...

Does anyone in the English speaking world use WTL for sports? Because I've literally never seen it in the U.S. up until now. Football and Boxing the only sports where ties or draws are somewhat common.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-24 20:24:20
December 24 2019 20:23 GMT
#47
On December 25 2019 05:16 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2019 00:46 CynicalDeath wrote:
On December 24 2019 02:34 Boggyb wrote:
Why on earth does Liquipedia not have the results in the standard Wins-Losses-Ties format?

...on the SC2 wiki we have always used the WTL system so idk why a WLT should be the "standard" tbh...

Does anyone in the English speaking world use WTL for sports? Because I've literally never seen it in the U.S. up until now. Football and Boxing the only sports where ties or draws are somewhat common.

The actual football?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Premier_League#League_table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_UEFA_Champions_League#Group_A
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 28 2019 10:32 GMT
#48
Live in 30 minutes. Is Wardi streaming today?
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
December 28 2019 11:03 GMT
#49
On December 28 2019 19:32 sneakyfox wrote:
Live in 30 minutes. Is Wardi streaming today?

Yes he will.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 28 2019 11:11 GMT
#50
On December 28 2019 20:03 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2019 19:32 sneakyfox wrote:
Live in 30 minutes. Is Wardi streaming today?

Yes he will.


Thanks. Here we go: https://tl.net/video/streams/WardiTV/
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 28 2019 11:25 GMT
#51
Wonder if TY will at least play some bio against BreakingGG. He shouldn't need the strongest strategy to win there.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
December 28 2019 11:30 GMT
#52
On December 28 2019 20:25 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if TY will at least play some bio against BreakingGG. He shouldn't need the strongest strategy to win there.

He 2-0'd Solar with bio in AlphaX the other day. Maybe gonna depend on the maps. And on how much he feels like ruining his wrists.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
December 28 2019 11:45 GMT
#53
On December 28 2019 20:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2019 20:25 sneakyfox wrote:
Wonder if TY will at least play some bio against BreakingGG. He shouldn't need the strongest strategy to win there.

He 2-0'd Solar with bio in AlphaX the other day. Maybe gonna depend on the maps. And on how much he feels like ruining his wrists.


Oh, cool. Wonder if we will see that again later.

Only mech so far today.
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thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
December 28 2019 12:27 GMT
#54
BKGG 1-1 TY
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
December 29 2019 11:48 GMT
#55
On December 17 2019 19:14 digmouse wrote:
24 players are split into 4 groups of 6 each, played in a best of 2 round robin format, top 4 in total map wins advance to single elimination playoffs.

Just so I understand this correctly, the tie breaker is map wins and not matches. So TIME can't win the group by winning all his matches today because he would be 8-2 in maps but went 0-2 against TY who also went 8-2. And since Solar lost a map to TRUE now, he also can at best go 8-2. So depending on the result of TIME vs Solar either TY wins the group or there's a possible tie between Solar and TY.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
December 29 2019 12:49 GMT
#56
On December 29 2019 20:48 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2019 19:14 digmouse wrote:
24 players are split into 4 groups of 6 each, played in a best of 2 round robin format, top 4 in total map wins advance to single elimination playoffs.

Just so I understand this correctly, the tie breaker is map wins and not matches. So TIME can't win the group by winning all his matches today because he would be 8-2 in maps but went 0-2 against TY who also went 8-2. And since Solar lost a map to TRUE now, he also can at best go 8-2. So depending on the result of TIME vs Solar either TY wins the group or there's a possible tie between Solar and TY.

Correct, group standings are determine by map wins only. A map win tie would mean a best of 1 tiebreaker.
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thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
December 29 2019 14:14 GMT
#57
Nice's pvz ...
Oh, my god!

(Z)BreakingGG got the fourth place.
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thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
December 29 2019 14:19 GMT
#58
On December 29 2019 21:49 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2019 20:48 Elentos wrote:
On December 17 2019 19:14 digmouse wrote:
24 players are split into 4 groups of 6 each, played in a best of 2 round robin format, top 4 in total map wins advance to single elimination playoffs.

Just so I understand this correctly, the tie breaker is map wins and not matches. So TIME can't win the group by winning all his matches today because he would be 8-2 in maps but went 0-2 against TY who also went 8-2. And since Solar lost a map to TRUE now, he also can at best go 8-2. So depending on the result of TIME vs Solar either TY wins the group or there's a possible tie between Solar and TY.

Correct, group standings are determine by map wins only. A map win tie would mean a best of 1 tiebreaker.


According to the rumor, if Solar 2-0 Nice, TY has no time to play the tiebreaker. Solar should be the first place.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-29 14:43:49
December 29 2019 14:38 GMT
#59
On December 29 2019 23:19 thickertom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2019 21:49 digmouse wrote:
On December 29 2019 20:48 Elentos wrote:
On December 17 2019 19:14 digmouse wrote:
24 players are split into 4 groups of 6 each, played in a best of 2 round robin format, top 4 in total map wins advance to single elimination playoffs.

Just so I understand this correctly, the tie breaker is map wins and not matches. So TIME can't win the group by winning all his matches today because he would be 8-2 in maps but went 0-2 against TY who also went 8-2. And since Solar lost a map to TRUE now, he also can at best go 8-2. So depending on the result of TIME vs Solar either TY wins the group or there's a possible tie between Solar and TY.

Correct, group standings are determine by map wins only. A map win tie would mean a best of 1 tiebreaker.


According to the rumor, if Solar 2-0 Nice, TY has no time to play the tiebreaker. Solar should be the first place.

You make it sound so mysterious. "The rumor". Wardi said all of TY's matches were yesterday because he can't play today. The tournament is so drawn out they could play the tie breaker any other day but giving 1st to Solar would be easier. But Nice Skytossed him.

Really good performance from BreakingGG I have to say.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4563 Posts
January 06 2020 12:08 GMT
#60
Bump as Group C is live right now
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thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
January 06 2020 14:49 GMT
#61
Whether Has and Rex have to play the tiebreak is still unknown.
SCboy didn't find it though the ranking in the live stream is "3rd Has 4th Rex".
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 17 2020 05:47 GMT
#62
Looking forward to playoffs starting today. The bracket is pretty good, although the stronger lower half only starts tomorrow.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 17 2020 12:05 GMT
#63
Here we go.

And I guess this is a good time to ask where are those Chinese team flairs?
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thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
January 17 2020 12:24 GMT
#64
BKGG 1-0 Dream
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7023 Posts
January 17 2020 14:04 GMT
#65
So far no surprise
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Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England897 Posts
January 18 2020 09:58 GMT
#66
Hey guys just got confirmation every playoff day starts one hour later than usual (9pm KST, 1pm CET, 7am East Coast)
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
January 18 2020 12:30 GMT
#67
On January 18 2020 18:58 Wardi wrote:
Hey guys just got confirmation every playoff day starts one hour later than usual (9pm KST, 1pm CET, 7am East Coast)


It’s 7 30 here in NYC and we are already on game 3 of trap-time. Or am I talking about the wrong thing lol
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 12:46 GMT
#68
Man that was a hopeless series for poor TIME.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 12:50 GMT
#69
It's Madness vs Genius, who takes it?!
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-18 13:08:26
January 18 2020 13:08 GMT
#70
Madness it is

Genius forget to show up
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 13:08 GMT
#71
On January 18 2020 21:50 sneakyfox wrote:
It's Madness vs Genius, who takes it?!

I'm not seeing any genius in these games.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 13:09 GMT
#72
This is some John Sun special needs type play from TY.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 13:09 GMT
#73
On January 18 2020 22:08 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2020 21:50 sneakyfox wrote:
It's Madness vs Genius, who takes it?!

I'm not seeing any genius in these games.


TY and losing to a super aggressive protoss known for being super aggressive, name a more iconic duo
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 13:10 GMT
#74
On January 18 2020 22:09 Elentos wrote:
This is some John Sun special needs type play from TY.


"special needs play", lmao
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 13:12 GMT
#75
On January 18 2020 22:09 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2020 22:08 Elentos wrote:
On January 18 2020 21:50 sneakyfox wrote:
It's Madness vs Genius, who takes it?!

I'm not seeing any genius in these games.


TY and losing to a super aggressive protoss known for being super aggressive, name a more iconic duo

He. Lost. A. Macro. Game. To. Has.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 13:13 GMT
#76
No bunker?!
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 13:15 GMT
#77
On January 18 2020 22:13 sneakyfox wrote:
No bunker?!

He had one in game 2 and didn't use it even though he didn't scout what Has was doing. Why make one now?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 13:18 GMT
#78
Well at least John Sun made room for TY to play 1 game today.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-18 13:19:51
January 18 2020 13:19 GMT
#79
So finally TY got tired of looking at John Sun and said hey man I'm taking over here.

On January 18 2020 22:18 Elentos wrote:
Well at least John Sun made room for TY to play 1 game today.


Are you saying they'll switch places again?? Welp
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 13:21 GMT
#80
On January 18 2020 22:19 sneakyfox wrote:
So finally TY got tired of looking at John Sun and said hey man I'm taking over here.

Show nested quote +
On January 18 2020 22:18 Elentos wrote:
Well at least John Sun made room for TY to play 1 game today.


Are you saying they'll switch places again?? Welp

Would you be surprised?

Honestly TY's TvP was looking so strong in the last few months. Now he's getting destroyed by Zest all the time and struggling vs Has. Strange player this.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-18 13:26:51
January 18 2020 13:26 GMT
#81
On January 18 2020 22:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2020 22:19 sneakyfox wrote:
So finally TY got tired of looking at John Sun and said hey man I'm taking over here.

On January 18 2020 22:18 Elentos wrote:
Well at least John Sun made room for TY to play 1 game today.


Are you saying they'll switch places again?? Welp

Would you be surprised?

Honestly TY's TvP was looking so strong in the last few months. Now he's getting destroyed by Zest all the time and struggling vs Has. Strange player this.


Well he's not losing this one at least. Good ole two-base all-in.

e: Wait what? On location even?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 13:27 GMT
#82
Ok, John Sun is back
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 13:29 GMT
#83
What was that worker pull from the main?!
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-18 13:31:17
January 18 2020 13:31 GMT
#84
On January 18 2020 22:29 sneakyfox wrote:
What was that worker pull from the main?!

I call it saturating your really late 3rd base
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 13:36 GMT
#85
I'll say, even if he wins game 5, how's he ever gonna stand a chance against Trap looking like this?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 13:39 GMT
#86
On January 18 2020 22:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2020 22:29 sneakyfox wrote:
What was that worker pull from the main?!

I call it saturating your really late 3rd base


Yeah but he pulled way too many, there was like 7 too few workers left in the main.

On January 18 2020 22:36 Elentos wrote:
I'll say, even if he wins game 5, how's he ever gonna stand a chance against Trap looking like this?


Hopefully this is the fluke series, he has been looking way better lately.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-18 13:41:01
January 18 2020 13:39 GMT
#87
He's proxied a gate, a robo and 2 gates, a dark shrine and now a stargate. The variety!
On January 18 2020 22:39 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2020 22:31 Elentos wrote:
On January 18 2020 22:29 sneakyfox wrote:
What was that worker pull from the main?!

I call it saturating your really late 3rd base


Yeah but he pulled way too many, there was like 7 too few workers left in the main.

That's what MULEs are for.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 13:42 GMT
#88
That was a really sad attack.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 13:43 GMT
#89
On January 18 2020 22:39 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2020 22:39 sneakyfox wrote:
On January 18 2020 22:31 Elentos wrote:
On January 18 2020 22:29 sneakyfox wrote:
What was that worker pull from the main?!

I call it saturating your really late 3rd base


Yeah but he pulled way too many, there was like 7 too few workers left in the main.

That's what MULEs are for.


Ok, not a big deal, but I thought it was always best to only move workers when oversaturated, an then mule the fresh base.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 13:44 GMT
#90
In Has's defense, that would have worked in 2017
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 13:51 GMT
#91
B U N N Y vs Pimpact. How many roach rushes?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 13:59 GMT
#92
TvZ is 45.70% on this map, only slightly better than world of sleepers. It's also shit in TvP. Really don't understand why Terrans don't veto it more often.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 14:02 GMT
#93
Tfw you build a million turrets but the corruptors still find a way in
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 18 2020 14:04 GMT
#94
On January 18 2020 22:59 sneakyfox wrote:
TvZ is 45.70% on this map, only slightly better than world of sleepers. It's also shit in TvP. Really don't understand why Terrans don't veto it more often.

Well in Bo5 you can only veto 1 of them. Nightshade is also only marginally better against Zerg. So at the end of the day it's probably just preference.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 18 2020 14:22 GMT
#95
On January 18 2020 23:04 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2020 22:59 sneakyfox wrote:
TvZ is 45.70% on this map, only slightly better than world of sleepers. It's also shit in TvP. Really don't understand why Terrans don't veto it more often.

Well in Bo5 you can only veto 1 of them. Nightshade is also only marginally better against Zerg. So at the end of the day it's probably just preference.


Ahh, right. I guess I'm a bit prejudiced against it because it's bad in both matchups and on ladder you veto for all matchups at the same time.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
January 18 2020 14:28 GMT
#96
Come on Bunny
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-18 14:59:49
January 18 2020 14:55 GMT
#97
Chinese stream for the last match

https://www.douyu.com/3484

Although I have no idea how to make it fullscreen. Or even adjust the volume.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 13:26 GMT
#98
lol that doom drop from Cure
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10100 Posts
January 19 2020 13:28 GMT
#99
yeah that was smart
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 13:30 GMT
#100
On January 19 2020 22:28 Topin wrote:
yeah that was smart


Tfw when you realize that you can just fly slowly over your opponents massive and impenetrable defense
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 13:32 GMT
#101
On January 19 2020 22:30 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2020 22:28 Topin wrote:
yeah that was smart


Tfw when you realize that you can just fly slowly over your opponents massive and impenetrable defense

Imagine being a mech player with no anti-air
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
January 19 2020 13:34 GMT
#102
On January 19 2020 22:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2020 22:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On January 19 2020 22:28 Topin wrote:
yeah that was smart


Tfw when you realize that you can just fly slowly over your opponents massive and impenetrable defense

Imagine being a mech player with no anti-air

Imagine playing mech in 2020
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 13:37 GMT
#103
On January 19 2020 22:34 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2020 22:32 Elentos wrote:
On January 19 2020 22:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On January 19 2020 22:28 Topin wrote:
yeah that was smart


Tfw when you realize that you can just fly slowly over your opponents massive and impenetrable defense

Imagine being a mech player with no anti-air

Imagine playing mech in 2020


Imagine playing Terran
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 13:38 GMT
#104
That cyclone snipe on the natural was the dumbest thing I've seen since Cure doom dropped 5 unboosted medivacs in Inno's main.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 13:43 GMT
#105
On January 19 2020 22:38 Elentos wrote:
That cyclone snipe on the natural was the dumbest thing I've seen since Cure doom dropped 5 unboosted medivacs in Inno's main.


Some serious 4th race stuff right there.

PS. Grats on birthday, hope John Sun got so wasted to celebrate that he forgets to play later.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 13:49 GMT
#106
What a weird game.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 13:55 GMT
#107
Can't believe the bonjwa is defeated by the GOAT. I guess form is temporary and class is permanent.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
January 19 2020 13:55 GMT
#108
If Cure is losing even online now, I'm not hopeful for his offline performances
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 13:55 GMT
#109
What a series.

Now, who will Trap play?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 13:58 GMT
#110
On January 19 2020 22:55 sneakyfox wrote:
What a series.

Now, who will Trap play?

Will it be TY, or will it be Elentos?
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
January 19 2020 14:03 GMT
#111
M E C H A N I C
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 14:03 GMT
#112
TY so greedy
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 19 2020 14:11 GMT
#113
Mech was god's gift to humanity and the reason for terran supremacy in this alien universe.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 14:12 GMT
#114
On January 19 2020 23:03 Elentos wrote:
TY so greedy


Let's see what that means for the series. I mean if you can't be greedy on eternal empire, where can you?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 14:13 GMT
#115
If only mech wasn't so weak to Protoss' most basic units, then it'd be really good.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 14:20 GMT
#116
GG raven
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 14:20 GMT
#117
TY TvP - when in doubt, pull the boys
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 14:22 GMT
#118
On January 19 2020 23:20 Elentos wrote:
TY TvP - when in doubt, pull the boys


TyP?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 14:22 GMT
#119
I wonder if TY holds the record for most tournament games won with SCV pulls.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 14:30 GMT
#120
This looks like a proper TY game
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 14:32 GMT
#121
Nexus kill by the SVC, so baller
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 14:33 GMT
#122
Is Has > Trap? :thinking:
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 19 2020 14:44 GMT
#123
On January 19 2020 23:33 Elentos wrote:
Is Has > Trap? :thinking:

Apparently. Weird.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
January 19 2020 14:45 GMT
#124
Jin Air coaching in shambles
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 19 2020 14:45 GMT
#125
On January 19 2020 23:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2020 23:33 Elentos wrote:
Is Has > Trap? :thinking:

Apparently. Weird.


John Sun didn't get as much playing time today
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
January 19 2020 15:14 GMT
#126
Sh/Nydus may be weaker now but it's still bullshit
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 20 2020 11:52 GMT
#127
Is it just me or would it be so cool to have Chinese team flairs for this tournament?
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 20 2020 12:47 GMT
#128
In both these games Inno has had creep at his front door in less than 15 minutes.
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
January 20 2020 13:41 GMT
#129
Can somebody try to paint a dear form curve, it probably would be madness incarnate.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
January 20 2020 14:49 GMT
#130
Stellar non existing micro there by dear xD
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
January 20 2020 15:08 GMT
#131
Honestly frame me a whiner but i don't see top zergs losing many ZvPs this year they just have too many options that make them good in longer series, while also being a race that has no problem playing just reactive.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 20 2020 15:11 GMT
#132
Yeah, that is pretty much the problem. Playing reactive with excellent map vision, fast units on creep, and a superior economy, while having the ability to bank up larva, and a solid early game to get there in one piece.
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
January 20 2020 15:15 GMT
#133
On January 21 2020 00:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Yeah, that is pretty much the problem. Playing reactive with excellent map vision, fast units on creep, and a superior economy, while having the ability to bank up larva, and a solid early game to get there in one piece.

Additionally sh/nydus still being good (just not completely bonkers anymore) and basically so many army combos and timings (that's what it looks like at least) which need different reactions from the protoss, lead to zerg just having an advantage i think.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
January 20 2020 15:54 GMT
#134
On January 20 2020 22:41 darklycid wrote:
Can somebody try to paint a dear form curve, it probably would be madness incarnate.

Via Ej_, ca. 2017:
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Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
January 20 2020 16:03 GMT
#135
On January 21 2020 00:54 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2020 22:41 darklycid wrote:
Can somebody try to paint a dear form curve, it probably would be madness incarnate.

Via Ej_, ca. 2017:
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Nice.
kubaPS
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany162 Posts
January 20 2020 16:38 GMT
#136
Since Pre-Season is over, do we have any information about the next season of CTC?
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
593 Posts
January 20 2020 23:45 GMT
#137
On January 21 2020 01:38 kubaPS wrote:
Since Pre-Season is over, do we have any information about the next season of CTC?


I think they will wait for EPT qualifier dates etc to be figured out or maybe Korean leagues to be announced so they can work around the dates properly
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
January 21 2020 11:26 GMT
#138
On January 21 2020 01:38 kubaPS wrote:
Since Pre-Season is over, do we have any information about the next season of CTC?

What Wardi said plus waiting till after the Chinese New Year holidays, so don't really expect anything until well into February.
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