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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
November 02 2019 04:00 GMT
#2441
On November 02 2019 12:56 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 12:55 Nakajin wrote:
On November 02 2019 12:53 Anc13nt wrote:
the ending was pretty disgusting. I agree Classic deserved to win that game for sure.


I do kind of feel bad for Dark, I would still bet on him in a no-nydus meta, but this is kind of sad to watch.


There is really no point or proof how Dark would play without nydus, but he clearly profits from it now but its his job so can't blame him

Dark has entertained us with great plays for what feels like forever, it's a bit sad idd when balance is like this even for the winning players. It's like Lewis Hamilton in F1.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 02 2019 04:00 GMT
#2442
On November 02 2019 12:59 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 12:56 tigon_ridge wrote:
FTR, Serral dropped out with the best win % of the tournament (79%), and will likely keep that #1 place regardless of who wins the tournament. Thank you, single elimination. You did it again.


In double elim you can literaly lose most of the game vs an opponent and win the tournament. (or at least a tie)


The only format practical for deciding who is the best is Bo7 Round Robin.

DE is a compromise, SE is time-biased choice.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
November 02 2019 04:00 GMT
#2443
On November 02 2019 12:57 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 12:56 tigon_ridge wrote:
FTR, Serral dropped out with the best win % of the tournament (79%), and will likely keep that #1 place regardless of who wins the tournament. Thank you, single elimination. You did it again.


it can happen in double elim too. Win everything until winners final, drop down, lose. probably still highest winrate :x

There are many other formats, all superior to SE and DE.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1200 Posts
November 02 2019 04:01 GMT
#2444
On November 02 2019 13:00 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 12:57 TaKeTV wrote:
On November 02 2019 12:56 tigon_ridge wrote:
FTR, Serral dropped out with the best win % of the tournament (79%), and will likely keep that #1 place regardless of who wins the tournament. Thank you, single elimination. You did it again.


it can happen in double elim too. Win everything until winners final, drop down, lose. probably still highest winrate :x

There are many other formats, all superior to SE and DE.


to determine what exactly?
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
November 02 2019 04:02 GMT
#2445
On November 02 2019 13:00 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 12:56 TaKeTV wrote:
On November 02 2019 12:55 Nakajin wrote:
On November 02 2019 12:53 Anc13nt wrote:
the ending was pretty disgusting. I agree Classic deserved to win that game for sure.


I do kind of feel bad for Dark, I would still bet on him in a no-nydus meta, but this is kind of sad to watch.


There is really no point or proof how Dark would play without nydus, but he clearly profits from it now but its his job so can't blame him

Dark has entertained us with great plays for what feels like forever, it's a bit sad idd when balance is like this even for the winning players. It's like Lewis Hamilton in F1.

Totally agree. I think anyone's Zerg performance at this state of the game will be downplayed or rejected. It's sad, because Dark and other's are playing extremely well and sharp. It's just too hard to distinguish balance from performance atm.
hi. big fan.
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
November 02 2019 04:02 GMT
#2446
This is already over
TL+ Member
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 02 2019 04:04 GMT
#2447
I just finished reading the whole LR thread, had to go out for a gaming night after Serral won against soO.
You guys should not blame balance team, you should blame yourselves since you were screaming "Protoss op" when they really weren't; Blizzard's fault was listening to you.

I had never seen Serral threw that hard, it was kind of amazing; you guys really didn't understand anything of me if you think I'd in shambles since Reynor, who I love almost as much, was the one beating Serral this time; also, ZvZ must be a bad matchup, right? That series was so exciting.

I'm happy Classic beat Rogue and I'm relieved that Maru didn't advance, not because I hate him but because there are people out there who venerates him like a God, that's so bad.

If Dark wins, Reynor should have a nice shot at BlizzCon's title! DAJE RICCARDO!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 02 2019 04:04 GMT
#2448
Great hold from Dark here
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 02 2019 04:04 GMT
#2449
So, Serral gets to keep his final boss status since said frankly, i favor Reynor in final over Dark on pure ZvZ prowess, Dark can only rely on having less nerves to deal with.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
November 02 2019 04:04 GMT
#2450
aight, now a quick 4-0 for Dark pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 02 2019 04:05 GMT
#2451
wow literally all my liquibets were serral winning it all
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tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
November 02 2019 04:05 GMT
#2452
On November 02 2019 13:01 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 13:00 tigon_ridge wrote:
On November 02 2019 12:57 TaKeTV wrote:
On November 02 2019 12:56 tigon_ridge wrote:
FTR, Serral dropped out with the best win % of the tournament (79%), and will likely keep that #1 place regardless of who wins the tournament. Thank you, single elimination. You did it again.


it can happen in double elim too. Win everything until winners final, drop down, lose. probably still highest winrate :x

There are many other formats, all superior to SE and DE.


to determine what exactly?

To determine who is the best all-rounder. In SE, you can get (un)lucky in too many ways.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 02 2019 04:05 GMT
#2453
How many more finals losses does Dark need to out-kong soO?
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
November 02 2019 04:05 GMT
#2454
On November 02 2019 13:04 Xain0n wrote:
I just finished reading the whole LR thread, had to go out for a gaming night after Serral won against soO.
You guys should not blame balance team, you should blame yourselves since you were screaming "Protoss op" when they really weren't; Blizzard's fault was listening to you.

I had never seen Serral threw that hard, it was kind of amazing; you guys really didn't understand anything of me if you think I'd in shambles since Reynor, who I love almost as much, was the one beating Serral this time; also, ZvZ must be a bad matchup, right? That series was so exciting.

I'm happy Classic beat Rogue and I'm relieved that Maru didn't advance, not because I hate him but because there are people out there who venerates him like a God, that's so bad.

If Dark wins, Reynor should have a nice shot at BlizzCon's title! DAJE RICCARDO!

Were they listening before Blizzcon?

Keep your logic consistent. Everyone has been moaning since even before Rogue and Dark made public statements.
hi. big fan.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
November 02 2019 04:06 GMT
#2455
Suddenly a wild xainon appears with all kinds of accusations lol
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
November 02 2019 04:06 GMT
#2456
That's too bad for Classic. Was really rooting for him after the previous series, and given that it's his last WCS (right?).

I would have been a bit torn between Reynor v. Classic, but now... think it's pretty obvious Reynor is going to be the massive fan favorite!
For Aiur???
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
November 02 2019 04:06 GMT
#2457
On November 02 2019 13:00 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 12:56 TaKeTV wrote:
On November 02 2019 12:55 Nakajin wrote:
On November 02 2019 12:53 Anc13nt wrote:
the ending was pretty disgusting. I agree Classic deserved to win that game for sure.


I do kind of feel bad for Dark, I would still bet on him in a no-nydus meta, but this is kind of sad to watch.


There is really no point or proof how Dark would play without nydus, but he clearly profits from it now but its his job so can't blame him

Dark has entertained us with great plays for what feels like forever, it's a bit sad idd when balance is like this even for the winning players. It's like Lewis Hamilton in F1.

Lewis wasn't even driving the fastest car in 2018 and the later half of 2019 season so no, not really comparable.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12451 Posts
November 02 2019 04:07 GMT
#2458
I wonder if Dark even feels proud about this...

Get to Blizzcon finals without doing anything
No will to live, no wish to die
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
November 02 2019 04:07 GMT
#2459
man this is painful. his spliting was so good too.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 02 2019 04:07 GMT
#2460
RIP Classic, the truest champion we don’t deserve
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
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