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[GSL 2019] Code S Season 2 - RO16 Group D - Page 12

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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-01 12:21:02
June 01 2019 12:20 GMT
#221
Nooooo Stats Guess it's only natural that in the era of protoss the only one I really like is knocked out.

Just can't advance from the group of death when you're not playing well. Not watching his army (twice!) cost him the last game.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 01 2019 12:23 GMT
#222
On June 01 2019 20:29 Penev wrote:
good to have some better racial distribution but I'm sad about Stats not advancing

and his play, geez


It's worse than in RO16 But hey, better than ST, so something
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 01 2019 12:27 GMT
#223
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 01 2019 12:38 GMT
#224
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-01 12:52:10
June 01 2019 12:51 GMT
#225
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.

Yeah because 8/16 and 5/8 and 7/8 is completely normal race distribution... or 6/5/1 IIRC

Also I don't think Classic will lose
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 01 2019 13:19 GMT
#226
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.


A zvz final would be the only acceptable outcome beside pvp
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 01 2019 13:35 GMT
#227
On June 01 2019 22:19 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.


A zvz final would be the only acceptable outcome beside pvp

Doubt it, soO has to defeat Classic and Dark anyone in the RO4. Also there's that issue of preparational format when you play only 1 MU, there's not that many builds.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 01 2019 13:47 GMT
#228
On June 01 2019 22:35 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 22:19 Nakajin wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.


A zvz final would be the only acceptable outcome beside pvp

Doubt it, soO has to defeat Classic and Dark anyone in the RO4. Also there's that issue of preparational format when you play only 1 MU, there's not that many builds.

If Dark beats herO, not even his ro4 curse can stop him from stomping to the finals. If soO beats Classic but then has to face Trap in the ro4, then maybe the limitation on number of builds will come into play but I feel like that is less of a Zerg issue than it is a Protoss or Terran issue.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15914 Posts
June 01 2019 13:56 GMT
#229
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.

Pre-emptive complaining about hypothetical balance whine about results that didn't happen yet. Truly next level.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 01 2019 14:10 GMT
#230
On June 01 2019 22:56 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.

Pre-emptive complaining about hypothetical balance whine about results that didn't happen yet. Truly next level.


Predicting seven or eight Protoss to go through and extensively whining about it has been a trend, recently; preemptive complaints seem a fitting response.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 01 2019 14:12 GMT
#231
On June 01 2019 22:56 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.

Pre-emptive complaining about hypothetical balance whine about results that didn't happen yet. Truly next level.

Has there ever been a time in SC2 when people weren't complaining about Protoss? I'm pretty sure Zerg were still complaining about Protoss in early 2018 when the match up was Wings of Liberty levels of broken.

If GSL were 16 Terran, 15 Zerg, and 1 Protoss, people would still be calling Protoss OP.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15914 Posts
June 01 2019 14:32 GMT
#232
On June 01 2019 23:12 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 22:56 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.

Pre-emptive complaining about hypothetical balance whine about results that didn't happen yet. Truly next level.

Has there ever been a time in SC2 when people weren't complaining about Protoss? I'm pretty sure Zerg were still complaining about Protoss in early 2018 when the match up was Wings of Liberty levels of broken.

If GSL were 16 Terran, 15 Zerg, and 1 Protoss, people would still be calling Protoss OP.

there also has never been a time where people weren't complaining about Terran ore Zerg.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 01 2019 14:43 GMT
#233
On June 01 2019 23:32 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 23:12 Boggyb wrote:
On June 01 2019 22:56 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.

Pre-emptive complaining about hypothetical balance whine about results that didn't happen yet. Truly next level.

Has there ever been a time in SC2 when people weren't complaining about Protoss? I'm pretty sure Zerg were still complaining about Protoss in early 2018 when the match up was Wings of Liberty levels of broken.

If GSL were 16 Terran, 15 Zerg, and 1 Protoss, people would still be calling Protoss OP.

there also has never been a time where people weren't complaining about Terran ore Zerg.


I mean I can't say I have seen someone complain about Terran since IEM Katowice

There's also been moment when everyone was pretty ok with zerg, late HOTS for exemple.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2448 Posts
June 01 2019 14:57 GMT
#234
I hope ZvZ, or Innovation-Soo rematched in the final once again.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
June 01 2019 15:11 GMT
#235
inno's tvp still looked a bit like it was a desperate race to hit perfect timings, even in that last game he hit right before storm, not that it matters because stats got all of them EMP'ed anyaway
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
June 01 2019 16:43 GMT
#236
Inno and dark saved this GSL for me. I just don't like watching PvP at all, but fortunately theres only one PvP in the ro8 now. Also during Inno vs Dark I was pretty happy to see a nice TvZ but also really said because I realized just how boring PvZ, PvP and PvT have been to me lately. Especially the TvPs between inno and stats were just really boring and repetitive. Hopefully we'll get a TvZ finals
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States581 Posts
June 01 2019 16:59 GMT
#237
It gets tiring to hear the players who advance complain about balance.

Finals look like they will be Dark vs. Innovation/soO. I just find it hilarious to hear them balance whine after destroying their opponents.

I just hope the balance team is smart enough not to fall for it. What do you guys think?
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
June 01 2019 17:07 GMT
#238
On June 02 2019 01:59 youngjiddle wrote:
It gets tiring to hear the players who advance complain about balance.

Finals look like they will be Dark vs. Innovation/soO. I just find it hilarious to hear them balance whine after destroying their opponents.

I just hope the balance team is smart enough not to fall for it. What do you guys think?


Stats losing today is more surprising than patience, but still not completely unexpected with the way Inno has been playing TvP lately—those timings are crisp.

It’s still hard to deny that TvP isn’t quite right given the RO16 and now RO8 race distribution. Terrains are trying things, even mech (with some success) but the matchup doesn’t feel balanced.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-01 20:59:57
June 01 2019 20:47 GMT
#239
On June 01 2019 21:23 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 20:29 Penev wrote:
good to have some better racial distribution but I'm sad about Stats not advancing

and his play, geez


It's worse than in RO16 But hey, better than ST, so something


Clearly the meta is settling, we will only need to wait until 2025 for balanced representation to be restored.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-01 20:55:34
June 01 2019 20:54 GMT
#240
On June 02 2019 01:59 youngjiddle wrote:
It gets tiring to hear the players who advance complain about balance.

Finals look like they will be Dark vs. Innovation/soO. I just find it hilarious to hear them balance whine after destroying their opponents.

I just hope the balance team is smart enough not to fall for it. What do you guys think?

Yeah, it's not like were just having P dominance that is worse than GomTvT statistically, but hey, eit's fine

On June 01 2019 23:12 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2019 22:56 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:38 Boggyb wrote:
On June 01 2019 21:27 Xain0n wrote:
If I didn't want Inno out as soon as possible, I'd be delighted to see the "Era of Protoss" leading to a TvZ Grand Final.

Semis are going to be 2 Zerg, 1 Terran, and 1 Protoss. Finals are going to be either a TvZ or a ZvZ. And people will still complain about Protoss.

Pre-emptive complaining about hypothetical balance whine about results that didn't happen yet. Truly next level.

Has there ever been a time in SC2 when people weren't complaining about Protoss? I'm pretty sure Zerg were still complaining about Protoss in early 2018 when the match up was Wings of Liberty levels of broken.

If GSL were 16 Terran, 15 Zerg, and 1 Protoss, people would still be calling Protoss OP.

Oh c'mon, sad zealot club? Dude, not nice, at least admit it's not balanced currently with the numbers we;re getting, hiding isn't helping.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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