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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19372 Posts
March 19 2019 14:27 GMT
#41
On March 19 2019 10:11 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2019 09:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 19 2019 09:21 Boggyb wrote:
Since the goal of an SC2 pro is to make money, it should be relatively easy to figure out who is the best. Add up career earnings and divide by number of years played. For players who've retired, add in the average salary of someone in the country to balance things out.

Flash made a ton being on the KT roster. We could argue his greatness as top 10 by earnings then lol.

Kespa salary was capped in SC2 though

Do you happen to remember what the cap was set at? I wonder what bonuses Flash got.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 19 2019 14:40 GMT
#42
On March 19 2019 23:27 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2019 10:11 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 19 2019 09:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 19 2019 09:21 Boggyb wrote:
Since the goal of an SC2 pro is to make money, it should be relatively easy to figure out who is the best. Add up career earnings and divide by number of years played. For players who've retired, add in the average salary of someone in the country to balance things out.

Flash made a ton being on the KT roster. We could argue his greatness as top 10 by earnings then lol.

Kespa salary was capped in SC2 though

Do you happen to remember what the cap was set at? I wonder what bonuses Flash got.


70 million KRW. There's a video where Flash talks about teams colluding to create this cap.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 15:22:15
March 19 2019 15:21 GMT
#43
On March 19 2019 09:21 Boggyb wrote:
Since the goal of an SC2 pro is to make money, it should be relatively easy to figure out who is the best. Add up career earnings and divide by number of years played. For players who've retired, add in the average salary of someone in the country to balance things out.


I can't even describe how wrong your statement is. Money is not the only thing that matters, TY won $200k in WESG while playing only 1 significant match (vs Maru) that amount is already greater than 5x GSL wins. Premier tournament win is the most important factor in considering GOAT, not the money.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 19 2019 17:08 GMT
#44
On March 19 2019 09:21 Boggyb wrote:
Since the goal of an SC2 pro is to make money, it should be relatively easy to figure out who is the best. Add up career earnings and divide by number of years played. For players who've retired, add in the average salary of someone in the country to balance things out.

The goal to some is to make money, to others it may be the thrill of competing, or to simply win a big tournament. Others might do it just because they enjoy the game.

And even if money was the only objective, earnings do not correlate to skill. Some of the most stacked and intense tournaments had $10K for first place. Others have had players earn $100k without playing any meaningful matches (such as Maru in the 2016 WeSG).

Take Rogue for example. I'd argue his toughest/most skilled win might have been the 2017 Super tournament 2. He won $10K from that. Meanwhile he won $430K from blizzcon+Katowice, and didn't look as good in either of them.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
dswarm
Profile Joined October 2012
United States73 Posts
March 19 2019 18:53 GMT
#45
Is there a schedule for when the poles will be posted?
I bleed creep
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 19:07:22
March 19 2019 19:06 GMT
#46
On March 20 2019 03:53 dswarm wrote:
Is there a schedule for when the poles will be posted?


Every Wednesday and Saturday night at around 8pm EST (well voting close at 8 so maybe more around 9pm for the new pools)

If the pools stay as popular as this one I might go from 2 voting period a week to 3.
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dswarm
Profile Joined October 2012
United States73 Posts
March 19 2019 19:09 GMT
#47
On March 20 2019 04:06 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 03:53 dswarm wrote:
Is there a schedule for when the poles will be posted?


Every Wednesday and Saturday night at around 8pm EST (well voting close at 8 so maybe more around 9pm for the new pools)

If the pools stay as popular as this one I might go from 2 voting period a week to 3.


Thanks!
I bleed creep
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16086 Posts
March 19 2019 19:26 GMT
#48
why not do all at once?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 22:53:03
March 19 2019 20:05 GMT
#49
On March 20 2019 04:26 Charoisaur wrote:
why not do all at once?


Well the idea is that this way people think about their choice more and get to discuss about it, the legacy of the players and the results in a way that would not happen with a wall of 30 pools.

Also I ran out of shitpost to make about Maru and Serral and that 5000 post isn't any closer.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
March 19 2019 23:21 GMT
#50
On March 20 2019 05:05 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 04:26 Charoisaur wrote:
why not do all at once?


Well the idea is that this way people think about their choice more and get to discuss about it, the legacy of the players and the results in a way that would not happen with a wall of 30 pools.

Also I ran out of shitpost to make about Maru and Serral and that 5000 post isn't any closer.


Cannot agree more. As a fan of maru it can get very annoying
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 20 2019 00:36 GMT
#51
On March 20 2019 05:05 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 04:26 Charoisaur wrote:
why not do all at once?


Well the idea is that this way people think about their choice more and get to discuss about it, the legacy of the players and the results in a way that would not happen with a wall of 30 pools.

Also I ran out of shitpost to make about Maru and Serral and that 5000 post isn't any closer.


Yeah, everything at once would be a bit too much. That being said three groups at a time seems like a bit too little. Why not increase the total to like 8 groups at once and also increase the time interval to compensate?
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 20 2019 09:11 GMT
#52
So the actual GOAT Zerg isn't on the list? His matchfixing has nothing to do with his wins and his legend status.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States885 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-20 16:53:29
March 20 2019 16:50 GMT
#53
Sorry, I'm confused. I see in the wiki there will be a voting option for NaDa but not NaDa's body. Was there a mistake?

Seriously though, this is a fun idea and thanks for doing it. I definitely agree with the vote results in the three polls so far (except for the fact that not 100% of people voted for TaeJa so far >.>).
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
March 20 2019 21:56 GMT
#54
where is hasuobs
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
March 20 2019 22:08 GMT
#55
On March 21 2019 06:56 robih wrote:
where is hasuobs


Not in, didn't get the final of any premiers tournament and his (very respectable) career isn't really worth one of the very few spots left.
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tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
March 20 2019 22:44 GMT
#56
We should embrace the memes and vote sniper to the GOAT
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
March 20 2019 23:07 GMT
#57
This is going to be funny.
Where is LucifroN?
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-20 23:35:35
March 20 2019 23:35 GMT
#58
On March 21 2019 08:07 Xamo wrote:
This is going to be funny.
Where is LucifroN?


Never got to the final of a premier, I initially chose him as one of the 8 wild card player but as more and more player got to mind I did a random draw and he got pushed out.
Keep in mind that including everyone who have been in the final of a premier tournament leave very few spot for some arguably better player but it was by far the easiest way to make a player list/do the ranking (trust me I try to do it by hand and it was a mess)
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 20 2019 23:38 GMT
#59
On March 19 2019 23:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2019 23:27 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 19 2019 10:11 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 19 2019 09:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 19 2019 09:21 Boggyb wrote:
Since the goal of an SC2 pro is to make money, it should be relatively easy to figure out who is the best. Add up career earnings and divide by number of years played. For players who've retired, add in the average salary of someone in the country to balance things out.

Flash made a ton being on the KT roster. We could argue his greatness as top 10 by earnings then lol.

Kespa salary was capped in SC2 though

Do you happen to remember what the cap was set at? I wonder what bonuses Flash got.


70 million KRW. There's a video where Flash talks about teams colluding to create this cap.


But there's sponsorship no ? + interviews and TV whatnot. Guess that's paid also. (i honestly don't know)
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-21 00:16:05
March 21 2019 00:10 GMT
#60
First results!

Group 1

1. (T)TaeJa: 206 votes
2. (Z)Snute: 152 votes
3. (T)Jinro: 52 votes
4. (Z)Reynor: 22 votes

TaeJa and Snute goes through!


Group 2

1. (Z)DRG: 184 votes
2. (T)SpeCial: 144 votes
3. (P)Lilbow: 42 votes
4. (T)uThermal: 36 votes

DRG and SpeCial goes through!


Group 3

1. (Z)Soulkey: 176 votes
2. (T)PuMa: 112 votes
3. (Z)July: 60 votes
4. (Z)Impact: 50 votes

Soulkey and PuMa goes through!

No big surprise, but Special and Soulkey proved the seeding wrong.
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