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On April 20 2019 08:07 Wombat_NI wrote:
I think we do under-appreciate sometimes quite how much the non-players bring to the scene though, for sure, especially the people behind the scenes that we don’t even see.
This tournament is about players though, so I did not consider that into voting. Though Boxer did have some sweet games back in the day, and I was almost as hyped as Moletrap to watch him play, so there's plenty of reason to vote for him even just for his contributions as a player.
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New Saturday new polls
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Match 5 :  Serral vs  San
Serral: 4 WCS, 1 GSLvsTW, 1 Blizzcon, 1 HSC, Reigning world champion, first foreigner to be widely consider the best player in the world and holder of the longest streak of series victory.
San: 1 AsusRog and 3 premier second place including WCS EU, one of the innovator of the protoss race, known for his elite pvz and his infamous "sangate" build that earn him a 72% pvz win rate in HOTS.
Poll: Who is the greatest player?You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Serral
☐ San
Match 6: Classic vs  Flash
Classic: 1GSL, 1IEM, 1SSL, 1 ST(maybe two when you read this?) as well as two back to back Blizzcon Semi-final, an IEM Katowice finals and a very solid proleague career, a protoss players comfortable with almost every style of play who demonstrate remarkable consistency.
Flash: 1IEM, the greatest BW has ever seen, had amazing success in proleague, balanced by shaky individual performance, one of the best mech player in Korea for a long time.
Poll: Who is the greatest player?You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Classic
☐ Flash
Match 7: INnoVation vs Dear
INnoVation: 3GSL, 2 IEM, 1SSL, 1GSLvsTW, 1 WESG and a lot more major tournament wins, the only player with a premier tournament win in 5 consecutive years, winner of 5 separate teamleague (and 9 time teamleague champion) known for his excellent macro and deadly timing push.
Dear: 1 GSL, 1 WCS season, the only player with the same Teamliquid articles for 5 consecutive years (he was really good in late 2013 guys), he also had multiple GSL semi-final and won one of the best game ever vs Maru in 2013.
Poll: Who is the greatest player?You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ INnovation
☐ Dear
Match 8: Leenock vs jjakji
Leenock: 2 MLG, 1 IGN Proleague, 1 Dreamhack, lost a GSL vs none other than jjakji, one of the best korean zerg at foreign event, great macro player that is still able to keep up with the world elite to this day.
jjakji:1 GSL, one of the pillar of the Artosis curse, came out of nowhere to win a GSL in only his second code S appearances but failed to replicate that kind of success despite all around solid results in the next years.
Poll: Who is the greatest player?You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Leenock
☐ jjakji
Polls are open until Wednesday April 24 around 20h00 EST Edit polls closed a day early
Polls are closed
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Match 5 : Serral vs San
Just when I thought there couldn't be a matchup more onesided than Solar vs Myungsik...
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To be fair, Polt won a Premier tournament for six consecutive years(2011-2016).
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Canada8987 Posts
On April 21 2019 09:59 yht9657 wrote:Just when I thought there couldn't be a matchup more onesided than Solar vs Myungsik...
We also have soO-Thorzain and sOs-True comming up 
On April 21 2019 10:02 Xain0n wrote:
To be fair, Polt won a Premier tournament for six consecutive years(2011-2016).
Fuck fairness, writing those are hard I'm not gonna bother with facts on top of it 
(Also I just realize I got confuse for INno by WESG 2018, he didn't actually won any premier in 2018, so just 4 years for him, but he did win HSC in 2018 who is randomly either major or premier)
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Man, I actually liked Jjakji, hurts to see him have 0 votes  .
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On April 21 2019 12:01 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Man, I actually liked Jjakji, hurts to see him have 0 votes .
I liked him too, at least he's not on the level of Sniper or Seed, but I still think it's poetic justice giving Leenock this victory over him.
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Lol. Jjakji vs Leenock. Fate has made it so!
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On April 21 2019 10:04 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 09:59 yht9657 wrote:Match 5 : Serral vs San Just when I thought there couldn't be a matchup more onesided than Solar vs Myungsik... We also have soO-Thorzain and sOs-True comming up Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 10:02 Xain0n wrote:
To be fair, Polt won a Premier tournament for six consecutive years(2011-2016). Fuck fairness, writing those are hard I'm not gonna bother with facts on top of it (Also I just realize I got confuse for INno by WESG 2018, he didn't actually won any premier in 2018, so just 4 years for him, but he did win HSC in 2018 who is randomly either major or premier)
2013-2017 are 5 years though
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On April 21 2019 20:01 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 10:04 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 09:59 yht9657 wrote:Match 5 : Serral vs San Just when I thought there couldn't be a matchup more onesided than Solar vs Myungsik... We also have soO-Thorzain and sOs-True comming up On April 21 2019 10:02 Xain0n wrote:
To be fair, Polt won a Premier tournament for six consecutive years(2011-2016). Fuck fairness, writing those are hard I'm not gonna bother with facts on top of it (Also I just realize I got confuse for INno by WESG 2018, he didn't actually won any premier in 2018, so just 4 years for him, but he did win HSC in 2018 who is randomly either major or premier) 2013-2017 are 5 years though
Lol no, so dumb 17-13=4, didn't you go to elementary school?
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On April 21 2019 20:32 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 20:01 Charoisaur wrote:On April 21 2019 10:04 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 09:59 yht9657 wrote:Match 5 : Serral vs San Just when I thought there couldn't be a matchup more onesided than Solar vs Myungsik... We also have soO-Thorzain and sOs-True comming up On April 21 2019 10:02 Xain0n wrote:
To be fair, Polt won a Premier tournament for six consecutive years(2011-2016). Fuck fairness, writing those are hard I'm not gonna bother with facts on top of it (Also I just realize I got confuse for INno by WESG 2018, he didn't actually won any premier in 2018, so just 4 years for him, but he did win HSC in 2018 who is randomly either major or premier) 2013-2017 are 5 years though Lol no, so dumb 17-13=4, didn't you go to elementary school? + Show Spoiler +
My sarcasm detector is broken. You seem upset, but charoisaur is right here...
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On April 21 2019 21:13 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 20:32 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 20:01 Charoisaur wrote:On April 21 2019 10:04 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 09:59 yht9657 wrote:Match 5 : Serral vs San Just when I thought there couldn't be a matchup more onesided than Solar vs Myungsik... We also have soO-Thorzain and sOs-True comming up On April 21 2019 10:02 Xain0n wrote:
To be fair, Polt won a Premier tournament for six consecutive years(2011-2016). Fuck fairness, writing those are hard I'm not gonna bother with facts on top of it (Also I just realize I got confuse for INno by WESG 2018, he didn't actually won any premier in 2018, so just 4 years for him, but he did win HSC in 2018 who is randomly either major or premier) 2013-2017 are 5 years though Lol no, so dumb 17-13=4, didn't you go to elementary school? + Show Spoiler + My sarcasm detector is broken. You seem upset, but charoisaur is right here...
100% sarcasm
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On April 22 2019 00:04 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2019 21:13 Acrofales wrote:On April 21 2019 20:32 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 20:01 Charoisaur wrote:On April 21 2019 10:04 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 09:59 yht9657 wrote:Match 5 : Serral vs San Just when I thought there couldn't be a matchup more onesided than Solar vs Myungsik... We also have soO-Thorzain and sOs-True comming up On April 21 2019 10:02 Xain0n wrote:
To be fair, Polt won a Premier tournament for six consecutive years(2011-2016). Fuck fairness, writing those are hard I'm not gonna bother with facts on top of it (Also I just realize I got confuse for INno by WESG 2018, he didn't actually won any premier in 2018, so just 4 years for him, but he did win HSC in 2018 who is randomly either major or premier) 2013-2017 are 5 years though Lol no, so dumb 17-13=4, didn't you go to elementary school? + Show Spoiler + My sarcasm detector is broken. You seem upset, but charoisaur is right here... 100% sarcasm
He won a premier in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017, that's five years.
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On April 22 2019 00:09 burnturn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2019 00:04 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 21:13 Acrofales wrote:On April 21 2019 20:32 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 20:01 Charoisaur wrote:On April 21 2019 10:04 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 09:59 yht9657 wrote:Match 5 : Serral vs San Just when I thought there couldn't be a matchup more onesided than Solar vs Myungsik... We also have soO-Thorzain and sOs-True comming up On April 21 2019 10:02 Xain0n wrote:
To be fair, Polt won a Premier tournament for six consecutive years(2011-2016). Fuck fairness, writing those are hard I'm not gonna bother with facts on top of it (Also I just realize I got confuse for INno by WESG 2018, he didn't actually won any premier in 2018, so just 4 years for him, but he did win HSC in 2018 who is randomly either major or premier) 2013-2017 are 5 years though Lol no, so dumb 17-13=4, didn't you go to elementary school? + Show Spoiler + My sarcasm detector is broken. You seem upset, but charoisaur is right here... 100% sarcasm He won a premier in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017, that's five years.
Guys I know, I just made a dumb mistake the first time.
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On April 22 2019 00:09 burnturn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2019 00:04 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 21:13 Acrofales wrote:On April 21 2019 20:32 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 20:01 Charoisaur wrote:On April 21 2019 10:04 Nakajin wrote:On April 21 2019 09:59 yht9657 wrote:Match 5 : Serral vs San Just when I thought there couldn't be a matchup more onesided than Solar vs Myungsik... We also have soO-Thorzain and sOs-True comming up On April 21 2019 10:02 Xain0n wrote:
To be fair, Polt won a Premier tournament for six consecutive years(2011-2016). Fuck fairness, writing those are hard I'm not gonna bother with facts on top of it (Also I just realize I got confuse for INno by WESG 2018, he didn't actually won any premier in 2018, so just 4 years for him, but he did win HSC in 2018 who is randomly either major or premier) 2013-2017 are 5 years though Lol no, so dumb 17-13=4, didn't you go to elementary school? + Show Spoiler + My sarcasm detector is broken. You seem upset, but charoisaur is right here... 100% sarcasm He won a premier in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017, that's five years.
If he hadn't fucked up in 2018 he would have had a premier tournament win in 7! consecutive years.
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I mean, he won HSC, which, like previously mentioned, is randomly a premier or a major. But I don't think it ends up being not a premier based on quality of players, I think it's the prize pool that discounts it. The second HSC last year almost ended up being a premier but the prize pool got cut a little bit so.
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On April 22 2019 03:06 burnturn wrote:
I mean, he won HSC, which, like previously mentioned, is randomly a premier or a major. But I don't think it ends up being not a premier based on quality of players, I think it's the prize pool that discounts it. The second HSC last year almost ended up being a premier but the prize pool got cut a little bit so.
There is also something about invite and Korean participation that block it for being a premier I think
Edit: And by that I mean, I think it would be a premier if it had WCS points on it (even if it's just money getting into thr WCS system mean having some Blizz money)
Cause back in the day there was plenty of premier with less money than HSC
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On April 22 2019 03:24 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2019 03:06 burnturn wrote:
I mean, he won HSC, which, like previously mentioned, is randomly a premier or a major. But I don't think it ends up being not a premier based on quality of players, I think it's the prize pool that discounts it. The second HSC last year almost ended up being a premier but the prize pool got cut a little bit so.
There is also something about invite and Korean participation that block it for being a premier I think
Prize pool is the only notable difference(10k instead of 8k for the first place).
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Northern Ireland23123 Posts
Isn’t the Super Tournament around that in prize pool?
I mean Korean tournaments in general have too low anorise pool for their quality
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