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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 09 2018 23:35 GMT
#1841
On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup


Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet

Serral did not beat a top Korean terran
Innovation is garbage this year


Innovations beat rogue and serral won his bo1 against maru, still qn impressive zvt showing.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28530 Posts
September 09 2018 23:35 GMT
#1842
On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup


Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet

Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5
Innovation is garbage this year

He beat Maru as well
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 09 2018 23:35 GMT
#1843
The best part of post-premier tournament threads is that everyone starts debating stuff. Half the time I forget what my positions are, I just reply for the sake of keeping the debate going haha
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-09 23:36:59
September 09 2018 23:35 GMT
#1844
On September 10 2018 08:35 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup


Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet

Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5
Innovation is garbage this year

He beat Maru as well

i said bo5
On September 10 2018 08:35 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup


Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet

Serral did not beat a top Korean terran
Innovation is garbage this year


Innovations beat rogue and serral won his bo1 against maru, still qn impressive zvt showing.

Rogue is not a the best example since he can go from world champ to wtf am I doing i'm just gonna lose'
Faker is the GOAT!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
September 09 2018 23:35 GMT
#1845
To be fair, Neeb also had to qualify for Kespa cup so that counts for something.
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
September 09 2018 23:35 GMT
#1846
On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup


Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet

Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5
Innovation is garbage this year

Alongside with Maru, Stats and Dark?
Please.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 09 2018 23:35 GMT
#1847
On September 10 2018 08:32 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


Precisely. From "roughly equal" to "Bonjwa" in a single map. Hmm that doesn't seem right.

Plenty of historic runs/moments in starcraft history would have come down to single maps you don't realise.

I'm sure plenty of players who lost in ro32s/16s would have ended up winning those tournaments if a final map went the other way.

Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 09 2018 23:36 GMT
#1848
On September 10 2018 08:35 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:35 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup


Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet

Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5
Innovation is garbage this year

He beat Maru as well

i said bo5


Yeah, you edited that in.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 09 2018 23:36 GMT
#1849
I'm usually happy for Serral and all but watching the two players I wanted to make Blizzcon the most get eliminated by him in close series has officially made me not want him to win Blizzcon. Maru got this
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
September 09 2018 23:36 GMT
#1850
He can definitely be counted among the best foreigners of all time but he can't be considered a bonjwa yet, he just hasn't won enough against koreans to be considered a bonjwa in the true sense of the word.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 09 2018 23:37 GMT
#1851
On September 10 2018 08:35 Aegwynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup


Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet

Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5
Innovation is garbage this year

Alongside with Maru, Stats and Dark?
Please.

Technically he only beat Maru in a bo1 which is pretty meaningless.

Although I agree the idea that his run was much worse/better than Neeb's is strange. Neeb had ridiculous bracket/meta luck and Serral only had to face two top players (stats and dark).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
September 09 2018 23:37 GMT
#1852
On September 10 2018 08:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:35 AzAlexZ wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:35 Penev wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup


Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet

Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5
Innovation is garbage this year

He beat Maru as well

i said bo5


Yeah, you edited that in.

i realized that I forgot about maru
Faker is the GOAT!
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
September 09 2018 23:37 GMT
#1853
On September 10 2018 08:35 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
Kinda sad that 2 of the 3 best foreigner Zergs miss Blizzcon.



dont know what you mean serral and lambo are the 2 best forreigner zergs
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
September 09 2018 23:37 GMT
#1854
On September 10 2018 08:32 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


Precisely. From "roughly equal" to "Bonjwa" in a single map. Hmm that doesn't seem right.


If you just take titles as the only metric it is roughly equal, sure.
I love Neeb but how can anyone who followed their runs in both WCS and Kespa Cup/GSL vs the World say they are equal?
The general dominance Serral showed in terms of gameplay and mental game is just not even comparable to Neeb imo.
Do you really think that Neebs showing last year is equal to Serrals sheer dominance in everything he attends?
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
September 09 2018 23:37 GMT
#1855
Pretty pumped for Blizzcon. Shame Scarlett and Reynor won't be there. I think Neeb will show up like he did in GSL.
very illegal and very uncool
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-09 23:38:42
September 09 2018 23:38 GMT
#1856
On September 10 2018 08:34 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:32 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:
On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year.


It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup.


But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal


Precisely. From "roughly equal" to "Bonjwa" in a single map. Hmm that doesn't seem right.


That's how it goes though - if soO had won a few more maps over the thousands of maps he's played over his career, he'd be a bonjwa rather than a sad meme

Greatest is determined in just a few pivotal moments


No, that's just the standard version from American sports.

We get to do real evaluations. And it takes a lot more than being a single championship better than the guy from last year.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 09 2018 23:38 GMT
#1857
Well Lambo gets the unlucky spot of facing Maru at blizzcon. ShoWTimE also has to face Dark.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
September 09 2018 23:39 GMT
#1858
On September 10 2018 08:37 tilhorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 08:35 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
Kinda sad that 2 of the 3 best foreigner Zergs miss Blizzcon.



dont know what you mean serral and lambo are the 2 best forreigner zergs

The 3 best foreigner Zergs are Nerchio, Guru and avilo.
2 of those miss Blizzcon
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
September 09 2018 23:40 GMT
#1859
serral just gave Lambo a favour so he can rape him again at blizzcon
derpistole
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany33 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-09 23:41:21
September 09 2018 23:40 GMT
#1860
Serral is for sure the best (foreign)player in sc2 history
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