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On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet Serral did not beat a top Korean terran Innovation is garbage this year
Innovations beat rogue and serral won his bo1 against maru, still qn impressive zvt showing.
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On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5 Innovation is garbage this year
He beat Maru as well
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The best part of post-premier tournament threads is that everyone starts debating stuff. Half the time I forget what my positions are, I just reply for the sake of keeping the debate going haha
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On September 10 2018 08:35 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5 Innovation is garbage this year He beat Maru as well
i said bo5
On September 10 2018 08:35 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet Serral did not beat a top Korean terran Innovation is garbage this year Innovations beat rogue and serral won his bo1 against maru, still qn impressive zvt showing.
Rogue is not a the best example since he can go from world champ to wtf am I doing i'm just gonna lose'
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To be fair, Neeb also had to qualify for Kespa cup so that counts for something.
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On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5 Innovation is garbage this year
Alongside with Maru, Stats and Dark?
Please.
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On September 10 2018 08:32 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal Precisely. From "roughly equal" to "Bonjwa" in a single map. Hmm that doesn't seem right.
Plenty of historic runs/moments in starcraft history would have come down to single maps you don't realise.
I'm sure plenty of players who lost in ro32s/16s would have ended up winning those tournaments if a final map went the other way.
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On September 10 2018 08:35 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:35 Penev wrote:On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5 Innovation is garbage this year He beat Maru as well i said bo5
Yeah, you edited that in.
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I'm usually happy for Serral and all but watching the two players I wanted to make Blizzcon the most get eliminated by him in close series has officially made me not want him to win Blizzcon. Maru got this
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He can definitely be counted among the best foreigners of all time but he can't be considered a bonjwa yet, he just hasn't won enough against koreans to be considered a bonjwa in the true sense of the word.
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On September 10 2018 08:35 Aegwynn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5 Innovation is garbage this year Alongside with Maru, Stats and Dark? Please.
Technically he only beat Maru in a bo1 which is pretty meaningless.
Although I agree the idea that his run was much worse/better than Neeb's is strange. Neeb had ridiculous bracket/meta luck and Serral only had to face two top players (stats and dark).
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On September 10 2018 08:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:35 AzAlexZ wrote:On September 10 2018 08:35 Penev wrote:On September 10 2018 08:34 AzAlexZ wrote:On September 10 2018 08:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 10 2018 08:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal An all star fan voted showmatch tournament < Kespa Cup Beating top players in all three races > winning a PvP fest and almost losing to Pet Serral did not beat a top Korean terran in a bo5 Innovation is garbage this year He beat Maru as well i said bo5 Yeah, you edited that in.
i realized that I forgot about maru
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On September 10 2018 08:35 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
Kinda sad that 2 of the 3 best foreigner Zergs miss Blizzcon.
dont know what you mean serral and lambo are the 2 best forreigner zergs
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On September 10 2018 08:32 sneakyfox wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal Precisely. From "roughly equal" to "Bonjwa" in a single map. Hmm that doesn't seem right.
If you just take titles as the only metric it is roughly equal, sure.
I love Neeb but how can anyone who followed their runs in both WCS and Kespa Cup/GSL vs the World say they are equal?
The general dominance Serral showed in terms of gameplay and mental game is just not even comparable to Neeb imo.
Do you really think that Neebs showing last year is equal to Serrals sheer dominance in everything he attends?
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Pretty pumped for Blizzcon. Shame Scarlett and Reynor won't be there. I think Neeb will show up like he did in GSL.
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On September 10 2018 08:34 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:32 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 Bagration wrote:On September 10 2018 08:30 sneakyfox wrote:On September 10 2018 08:28 argonautdice wrote:
Serral is definitely at least a foreigner Bonjwa. No foreigner has been this dominant for a full year. It's funny though... Had Reynor won one of those two last maps, then Serral would have the same amount of WCS as Neeb had the year before. And Neeb also won Kespa cup. But Serral won GSL vs. the World, so it's roughly equal Precisely. From "roughly equal" to "Bonjwa" in a single map. Hmm that doesn't seem right. That's how it goes though - if soO had won a few more maps over the thousands of maps he's played over his career, he'd be a bonjwa rather than a sad meme Greatest is determined in just a few pivotal moments
No, that's just the standard version from American sports.
We get to do real evaluations. And it takes a lot more than being a single championship better than the guy from last year.
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Well Lambo gets the unlucky spot of facing Maru at blizzcon. ShoWTimE also has to face Dark.
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On September 10 2018 08:37 tilhorizon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2018 08:35 Amarillo Caballero wrote:
Kinda sad that 2 of the 3 best foreigner Zergs miss Blizzcon. dont know what you mean serral and lambo are the 2 best forreigner zergs
The 3 best foreigner Zergs are Nerchio, Guru and avilo.
2 of those miss Blizzcon
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serral just gave Lambo a favour so he can rape him again at blizzcon
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Serral is for sure the best (foreign)player in sc2 history
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