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On April 23 2018 03:19 Carminedust wrote:
South korea yet again proves the skill gap hasnt closed at all
I dunno, in years past it would have taken an all star foreigner line up to have a chance vs a Korean team.
soO Inno and MMA aren't exactly Korea's finest at the moment but I was still not expecting the Netherlands of all places to take 3 games off of them.
I think the gap between the top of the Korean scene is as far apart as it has always been, but i think in the lower rungs of Code S the gap is narrower than it used to be. Top foreigners aren't embarassed by mid tier Koreans anymore, which is nice.
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On April 23 2018 03:20 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2018 03:19 Fango wrote:
Usually the better player should aim to play a macro game but not here Maru, PartinG and Life disagree
Even then you could say they have better odds in macro games (if they're facing an opponent they outclass). They're just cheesy players.
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On April 23 2018 03:18 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2018 03:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 23 2018 03:12 Fango wrote:On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem. Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage. To be honest, in a macro game like that. Inno should do a lot better against Harstem, even if his build didn't work. Harstem is not the pinnicle of protoss. Arguably INno hasn't been the pinnacle of terran either over the past few months. Regardless if you're behind, you have to make something happen to come back. INno chose to sit back and macro, and Harstem didn't make any big enough mistakes for INno to come back. He's probably the second best terran in the world. Harstem isn't even an elite protoss in foreignerland
At most he's 2nd best because there's a lack of evidence that he isn't, not because he's clearly better than TY or GuMiho. His form is questionable. Let's not pretend like him getting outplayed by Harstem should never, ever happen.
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On April 23 2018 03:19 Carminedust wrote:
South korea yet again proves the skill gap hasnt closed at all
Maybe they need to buff the Protoss early game for a better balance between Terran and Protoss.Srsly Harstem did a great great.Inno was 2 Base All-in in the last map
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Inno is reaching defacto goat status sc2 team league player.
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On April 23 2018 03:20 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2018 03:19 Carminedust wrote:
South korea yet again proves the skill gap hasnt closed at all I dunno, in years past it would have taken an all star foreigner line up to have a chance vs a Korean team.
Like... a GSL vs the world event?
That went pretty well last year.
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On April 23 2018 03:20 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2018 03:19 Bagration wrote:
It was a solid team from Korea - all three players had an all kill and contributed solid numbers of wins MMA didn't really do anything the others wouldn't have done easier. soO did his job against Finland though
He did really well in the Group Stages - not only all killing UK but he was the only one to get wins against Mexico, and he cleaned up Taiwan after Nice beat Innovation
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On April 23 2018 03:18 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2018 03:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 23 2018 03:12 Fango wrote:On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem. Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage. To be honest, in a macro game like that. Inno should do a lot better against Harstem, even if his build didn't work. Harstem is not the pinnicle of protoss. Arguably INno hasn't been the pinnacle of terran either over the past few months. Regardless if you're behind, you have to make something happen to come back. INno chose to sit back and macro, and Harstem didn't make any big enough mistakes for INno to come back. He's probably the second best terran in the world. Harstem isn't even an elite protoss in foreignerland
What about the word "pinnacle" do you not understand? Maru's the top and INno isn't even halfway up the peak.
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On April 23 2018 03:22 Caelum93 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2018 03:19 Carminedust wrote:
South korea yet again proves the skill gap hasnt closed at all Maybe they need to buff the Protoss early game for a better balance between Terran and Protoss.Srsly Harstem did a great great.Inno was 2 Base All-in in the last map
He always does that nowadays against protoss.
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Oh well, nice try NL, was a great run and hype semis! Meanwhile korea doesn't even need a solid 3 to win as usual :>
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Rip stream ded
Gotta say, I have been really unimpressed by the production value today.
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I would've felt a little sorry for them but the manner mules...
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On April 23 2018 03:24 pvsnp wrote:
Rip stream ded
lol, apparently I was quite behind
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On April 23 2018 03:21 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2018 03:18 Fango wrote:On April 23 2018 03:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 23 2018 03:12 Fango wrote:On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem. Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage. To be honest, in a macro game like that. Inno should do a lot better against Harstem, even if his build didn't work. Harstem is not the pinnicle of protoss. Arguably INno hasn't been the pinnacle of terran either over the past few months. Regardless if you're behind, you have to make something happen to come back. INno chose to sit back and macro, and Harstem didn't make any big enough mistakes for INno to come back. He's probably the second best terran in the world. Harstem isn't even an elite protoss in foreignerland At most he's 2nd best because there's a lack of evidence that he isn't, not because he's clearly better than TY or GuMiho. His form is questionable. Let's not pretend like him getting outplayed by Harstem should never, ever happen.
Inno has done better than TY and gumiho recently I think. And honestly in a macro game with many bases taken, I don't think harstem should be outplaying him that hard. You'd never find a mid tier foreign terran or zerg doing that.
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Anyone remember whose trash talk did Inno respond to when he said "if you aren't good at the game, you might as well be good at running your mouth"? Also rip stream yikes
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On April 23 2018 03:22 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2018 03:20 Fango wrote:On April 23 2018 03:19 Bagration wrote:
It was a solid team from Korea - all three players had an all kill and contributed solid numbers of wins MMA didn't really do anything the others wouldn't have done easier. soO did his job against Finland though He did really well in the Group Stages - not only all killing UK but he was the only one to get wins against Mexico, and he cleaned up Taiwan after Nice beat Innovation
Team Korea probably had each of its members pull their own weight more than winners in previous years, but that's not exactly a high bar.
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lmao they forgot rotterdam
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On April 23 2018 03:25 Latr02 wrote:
Anyone remember whose trash talk did Inno respond to when he said "if you aren't good at the game, you might as well be good at running your mouth"? Also rip stream yikes
It was sOs because he said something like "INno doesnt like sc2" i think 
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