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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-22 18:09:13
April 22 2018 18:08 GMT
#881
On April 23 2018 03:06 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:05 Fango wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:01 Charoisaur wrote:
Viking buff when?


Buffs won't matter if Terran doesnt make them.

It took Innovation WAY too long to switch into Vikings in the situation he was in. Collosus Stalker with a gigantic pillar to provide cover and he opts to keep making Liberators? I don't understand the thinking there.

Of course they would. If units get buffed then they become more viable, hence players will make them more.


/sarcasm?

Innovation lost that game because he DIDNT make Vikings. +10 health would literally change nothing about how that game went.

You never said 10HP buff specifically. You said that buffs wouldn't do anything because terran's aren't using the unit. Which isn't true. Whenever an sc2 unit gets buffed pro players hop on it.

Besides when they do buff viking HP it will likely be more than 10HP.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
April 22 2018 18:09 GMT
#882
On April 23 2018 03:08 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.

buff sensor towers

only if supply depot lift-off gets removed
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-22 18:11:01
April 22 2018 18:10 GMT
#883
On April 23 2018 03:09 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:08 Penev wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.

buff sensor towers

only if supply depot lift-off gets removed

np, real terrans use bunker load-unload
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 22 2018 18:10 GMT
#884
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.


Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 22 2018 18:11 GMT
#885
On April 23 2018 03:09 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:08 Penev wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.

buff sensor towers

only if supply depot lift-off gets removed

5 banelings can remove a supply depot anyway
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-22 18:11:32
April 22 2018 18:11 GMT
#886
On April 23 2018 03:10 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:09 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:08 Penev wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.

buff sensor towers

only if supply depot lift-off gets removed

np, real terrans use bunker load-unload

REAL terrans use the bunker teleport trick to ferry SCVs between bases
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
April 22 2018 18:11 GMT
#887
On April 23 2018 03:08 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.

Anyone can lose a single game. That's why they play bests of 3 and bests of 5 in tournaments.

macro games though? I can't imagine a mid-tier foreign terran beating Dark/Classic in a macro game.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
April 22 2018 18:11 GMT
#888
On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.


Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage.

the skill gap should have allowed that imo
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 22 2018 18:12 GMT
#889
On April 23 2018 03:11 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:08 Boggyb wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.

Anyone can lose a single game. That's why they play bests of 3 and bests of 5 in tournaments.

macro games though? I can't imagine a mid-tier foreign terran beating Dark/Classic in a macro game.

Harstem's performance isn't exactly mid-tier foreigner this tournament.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
April 22 2018 18:12 GMT
#890
On April 23 2018 03:11 Lyyna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:10 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:09 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:08 Penev wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.

buff sensor towers

only if supply depot lift-off gets removed

np, real terrans use bunker load-unload

REAL terrans use the bunker teleport trick to ferry SCVs between bases

wasnt there a video a long time ago?
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-22 18:12:28
April 22 2018 18:12 GMT
#891
On April 23 2018 03:11 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:08 Boggyb wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.

Anyone can lose a single game. That's why they play bests of 3 and bests of 5 in tournaments.

macro games though? I can't imagine a mid-tier foreign terran beating Dark/Classic in a macro game.


I was about to say souL but in a macro game
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 22 2018 18:12 GMT
#892
On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.


Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage.

To be honest, in a macro game like that. Inno should do a lot better against Harstem, even if his build didn't work. Harstem is not the pinnicle of protoss.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
April 22 2018 18:13 GMT
#893
On April 23 2018 03:12 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.


Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage.

To be honest, in a macro game like that. Inno should do a lot better against Harstem, even if his build didn't work. Harstem is not the pinnicle of protoss.

Blizz is watching, somethings gonna change
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
April 22 2018 18:13 GMT
#894
On April 23 2018 03:12 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.


Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage.

To be honest, in a macro game like that. Inno should do a lot better against Harstem, even if his build didn't work. Harstem is not the pinnicle of protoss.


Then you just have to quote Blizzard
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Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
April 22 2018 18:14 GMT
#895
On April 23 2018 03:12 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:11 Lyyna wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:10 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:09 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:08 Penev wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.

buff sensor towers

only if supply depot lift-off gets removed

np, real terrans use bunker load-unload

REAL terrans use the bunker teleport trick to ferry SCVs between bases

wasnt there a video a long time ago?

Haven't seen it since 2010

RIP best terran strat
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
April 22 2018 18:14 GMT
#896
Gooooo INno plz
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 22 2018 18:14 GMT
#897
On April 23 2018 03:12 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.


Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage.

To be honest, in a macro game like that. Inno should do a lot better against Harstem, even if his build didn't work. Harstem is not the pinnicle of protoss.

Inno should try playing better
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 22 2018 18:14 GMT
#898
On April 23 2018 03:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:12 Fango wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.


Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage.

To be honest, in a macro game like that. Inno should do a lot better against Harstem, even if his build didn't work. Harstem is not the pinnicle of protoss.

Inno should try playing better

I feel like that's what he's doing this game.
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
April 22 2018 18:14 GMT
#899
when will bunker build time get decreased been waiting for 7 years now for it to happen
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 22 2018 18:15 GMT
#900
On April 23 2018 03:12 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2018 03:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 23 2018 03:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Terrans need something, Inno shouldnt lose to Harstem.


Quit your whining. INno lost because he opened up with a proxy liberators and aggro at the third that got held off with minimal damage.

To be honest, in a macro game like that. Inno should do a lot better against Harstem, even if his build didn't work. Harstem is not the pinnicle of protoss.


Arguably INno hasn't been the pinnacle of terran either over the past few months.

Regardless if you're behind, you have to make something happen to come back. INno chose to sit back and macro, and Harstem didn't make any big enough mistakes for INno to come back.
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