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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On April 06 2018 20:53 Poopi wrote: By beating soO who didn't perform well either at IEM Katowice INnoVation didn't perform well either at IEM Katowice, and yet he won vs Rogue, is terran imba in TvZ? | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On April 06 2018 20:54 pvsnp wrote: Against Protoss? The meta is literally 2-base allins because there's no way to fight Protoss once they get splash. The meta I've seen recently is players trying to get to lategame where Terran is now really favored if they get to ravens | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On April 06 2018 20:55 Olli wrote: The meta I've seen recently is players trying to get to lategame where Terran is now really favored if they get to ravens I've seen a grand total of 1 pro game where this happened (Maru vs Stats). Building the Raven count is close to impossible against Protoss, since obviously mech is not an option and the new Colossi melt marines. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On April 06 2018 20:56 pvsnp wrote: I've seen a grand total of 1 pro game where this happened (Maru vs Stats). Building the Raven count is close to impossible against Protoss, since obviously mech is not an option and the new Colossi melt marines. I've seen a bunch of recent online games like it, looks quite good. I do think early/midgame is still Protoss favored, but once ghost/liberator is out the game becomes terran favored | ||
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dankobanana
Croatia238 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On April 06 2018 20:57 Olli wrote: I've seen a bunch of recent online games like it, looks quite good. I do think early/midgame is still Protoss favored, but once ghost/liberator is out the game becomes terran favored Were these top Koreans doing this? I would like to see this myself, if you have links. All the games I've seen recently where Terran macroes are laughably onesided. | ||
Poopi
France12889 Posts
On April 06 2018 20:58 dankobanana wrote: just play like Maru! That's what Guru told me No need to be Maru to beat Guru right? | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On April 06 2018 20:55 Olli wrote: The meta I've seen recently is players trying to get to lategame where Terran is now really favored if they get to ravens Where did you see this? Maybe on a ladder? This never happens in pro plays. Both Toss and Terran are trying to end the game as early as possible. Toss has better early game options, if Terran holds on against cheese and/or does some early damage to toss Eco they can win in mid game, which seems to be kinda balanced. In a sense that who does more early game damage simply wins in the mid-game, because any early damage snowballs pretty hard in this MU | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On April 06 2018 21:00 MarianoSC2 wrote: Where did you see this? Maybe on a ladder? This never happens in pro plays. Both Toss and Terran are trying to end the game as early as possible. Toss has better early game options, if Terran holds on against cheese and/or does some early damage to toss Eco they can win in mid game, which seems to be kinda balanced. In a sense that who does more early game damage simply wins in the mid-game, because any early damage snowballs pretty hard in this MU Watch online tournaments, Keen's been doing it, I saw it vs Zest for example, but also a few other games I can't remember. I also see it a lot watching Protoss like Stats, Parting and Zest stream. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On April 06 2018 21:02 Olli wrote: Watch online tournaments, Keen's been doing it, I saw it vs Zest for example, but also a few other games I can't remember. I also see it a lot watching Protoss like Stats, Parting and Zest stream. I dunno, I saw aLive try it vs Zest last week (Ballistix, I think) and Zest literally marched his army straight under six sieged Liberators and completely roflstomped aLive. I remember the game specifically because it was super passive until that fight and Zest basically just amoved to win off even positions. Liberators aren't what they used to be. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 06 2018 21:03 Mun_Su wrote: whatr does the new collosus? Shootr laser | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
/s | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
Outclassed. Man it sucks to see him fall so far from where he was. | ||
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Poopi
France12889 Posts
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On April 06 2018 21:02 Olli wrote: Watch online tournaments, Keen's been doing it, I saw it vs Zest for example, but also a few other games I can't remember. I also see it a lot watching Protoss like Stats, Parting and Zest stream. Okay so mostly ladder and some C-grade online tourneys. Thought so  Don't have time to watch all those games that don't really matter since the meta in the actual tournaments is completely different than some practice games on ladder | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On April 06 2018 21:03 Mun_Su wrote: whatr does the new collosus? 2-shots marines now, just like the HotS colossus, except also Protoss gateway tech is stronger and Marauders are weaker. | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On April 06 2018 21:03 pvsnp wrote: I dunno, I saw aLive try it vs Zest last week (Ballistix, I think) and Zest literally marched his army straight under six sieged Liberators and completely roflstomped aLive. This is exactly what happened to ByuN thatr sounds imba On April 06 2018 21:05 pvsnp wrote: 2-shots marines now, just like the HotS colossus, except also Protoss gateway tech is stronger and Marauders are weaker. Now I understand these colossus builds | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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