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On March 17 2018 18:21 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:19 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 18:18 DBooN wrote:On March 17 2018 18:17 Elentos wrote: Shame most of this tournament took place at an impossible time for EU Yeah, just got up, tuned in and heard them talking about how many nukes maru used  it's saturday, go to bed early so you're rested and then wake up early Some people who get up at 5 all week for work enjoy not getting up at 5 on weekends. I do exactly this but still have the passion to get up early to watch sc2
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On March 17 2018 18:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote: What's with that natural wall-off for Classic? Sure it allows archons to go through, but it's also an invitation for lings. Honestly, for most of LotV I remember Classic having hideous walls at his natural.
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On March 17 2018 18:21 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:19 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 18:18 DBooN wrote:On March 17 2018 18:17 Elentos wrote: Shame most of this tournament took place at an impossible time for EU Yeah, just got up, tuned in and heard them talking about how many nukes maru used  it's saturday, go to bed early so you're rested and then wake up early Some people who get up at 5 all week for work enjoy not getting up at 5 on weekends. Just stay up all night obviously
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On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote: Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason. The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map. The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural.
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Did Dark get the lurker upgrade yet or did he forget about it?
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On March 17 2018 18:23 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:21 Elentos wrote:On March 17 2018 18:19 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 18:18 DBooN wrote:On March 17 2018 18:17 Elentos wrote: Shame most of this tournament took place at an impossible time for EU Yeah, just got up, tuned in and heard them talking about how many nukes maru used  it's saturday, go to bed early so you're rested and then wake up early Some people who get up at 5 all week for work enjoy not getting up at 5 on weekends. I do exactly this but still have the passion to get up early to watch sc2 And I have enough passion that I don't break a bone if I can only catch a VOD.
But honestly the time zone clearly hurt viewership.
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On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote: Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason. The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map. The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural.
Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map.
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Perhaps the gap is between Maru/Dark and the others, instead of between Koreans and foreigners
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On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote: Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason. The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map. The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural. Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map. Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months.
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Eastwatch is huge but bases are close and surrounded by chokes= turtle terran heaven.
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The 15 minute ling speed timing though
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On March 17 2018 18:27 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote: Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason. The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map. The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural. Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map. Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months.
I only hope that Blizzard in its infinite wisdom mostly ignores the public voting. 16-bit being on a ladder is unfortunately kind of a given unfortunately, but if Blizzard doesn't put Dreamcatcher in the pool, and also avoids putting both Catalyst and Blueshift in the same map pool, I think it could be okay.
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he stormed his observer....
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On March 17 2018 18:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:27 Elentos wrote:On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote: Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason. The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map. The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural. Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map. Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months. I only hope that Blizzard in its infinite wisdom mostly ignores the public voting. 16-bit being on a ladder is unfortunately kind of a given unfortunately, but if Blizzard doesn't put Dreamcatcher in the pool, and also avoids putting both Catalyst and Blueshift in the same map pool, I think it could be okay. And that's the first veto. How much further down the deep end will we go?
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Without detection Classic is really in the dark about those lurkers
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ZvP
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On March 17 2018 18:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:27 Elentos wrote:On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote: Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason. The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map. The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural. Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map. Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months. I only hope that Blizzard in its infinite wisdom mostly ignores the public voting. 16-bit being on a ladder is unfortunately kind of a given unfortunately, but if Blizzard doesn't put Dreamcatcher in the pool, and also avoids putting both Catalyst and Blueshift in the same map pool, I think it could be okay. Catalyst will be gone anyway as they usually don't keep a map in for 3 seasons
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On March 17 2018 18:32 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 18:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:27 Elentos wrote:On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote: Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason. The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map. The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural. Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map. Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months. I only hope that Blizzard in its infinite wisdom mostly ignores the public voting. 16-bit being on a ladder is unfortunately kind of a given unfortunately, but if Blizzard doesn't put Dreamcatcher in the pool, and also avoids putting both Catalyst and Blueshift in the same map pool, I think it could be okay. Catalyst will be gone anyway as they usually don't keep a map in for 3 seasons If Abyssal Reef of all maps stayed so long, I'm afraid Catalyst is gonna stay too.
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