• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:16
CET 21:16
KST 05:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains6Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18BSL Season 224Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE20
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains GSL CK - New online series Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE
Tourneys
[GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO WardiTV Team League Season 10 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 BWCL Season 64 Announcement
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
PC Games Sales Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1633 users

[WESG 2017] Playoffs - Day 1 - Page 33

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 46 Next All
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16057 Posts
March 17 2018 09:23 GMT
#641
On March 17 2018 18:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:18 DBooN wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:17 Elentos wrote:
Shame most of this tournament took place at an impossible time for EU

Yeah, just got up, tuned in and heard them talking about how many nukes maru used

it's saturday, go to bed early so you're rested and then wake up early

Some people who get up at 5 all week for work enjoy not getting up at 5 on weekends.

I do exactly this but still have the passion to get up early to watch sc2
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 17 2018 09:23 GMT
#642
On March 17 2018 18:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What's with that natural wall-off for Classic? Sure it allows archons to go through, but it's also an invitation for lings.

Honestly, for most of LotV I remember Classic having hideous walls at his natural.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 17 2018 09:23 GMT
#643
On March 17 2018 18:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:18 DBooN wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:17 Elentos wrote:
Shame most of this tournament took place at an impossible time for EU

Yeah, just got up, tuned in and heard them talking about how many nukes maru used

it's saturday, go to bed early so you're rested and then wake up early

Some people who get up at 5 all week for work enjoy not getting up at 5 on weekends.

Just stay up all night obviously
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 17 2018 09:24 GMT
#644
On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote:
Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason.


The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map.

The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 17 2018 09:25 GMT
#645
Did Dark get the lurker upgrade yet or did he forget about it?
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 17 2018 09:26 GMT
#646
On March 17 2018 18:23 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:21 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:18 DBooN wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:17 Elentos wrote:
Shame most of this tournament took place at an impossible time for EU

Yeah, just got up, tuned in and heard them talking about how many nukes maru used

it's saturday, go to bed early so you're rested and then wake up early

Some people who get up at 5 all week for work enjoy not getting up at 5 on weekends.

I do exactly this but still have the passion to get up early to watch sc2

And I have enough passion that I don't break a bone if I can only catch a VOD.

But honestly the time zone clearly hurt viewership.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 09:26 GMT
#647
On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote:
Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason.


The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map.

The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural.


Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 17 2018 09:26 GMT
#648
Perhaps the gap is between Maru/Dark and the others, instead of between Koreans and foreigners
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 09:28:03
March 17 2018 09:27 GMT
#649
On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote:
Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason.


The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map.

The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural.


Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map.

Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 17 2018 09:27 GMT
#650
Eastwatch is huge but bases are close and surrounded by chokes= turtle terran heaven.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 17 2018 09:28 GMT
#651
The 15 minute ling speed timing though
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 09:30 GMT
#652
On March 17 2018 18:27 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote:
Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason.


The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map.

The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural.


Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map.

Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months.


I only hope that Blizzard in its infinite wisdom mostly ignores the public voting. 16-bit being on a ladder is unfortunately kind of a given unfortunately, but if Blizzard doesn't put Dreamcatcher in the pool, and also avoids putting both Catalyst and Blueshift in the same map pool, I think it could be okay.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 17 2018 09:30 GMT
#653
Is it 2016 again
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
March 17 2018 09:31 GMT
#654
he stormed his observer....
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 17 2018 09:31 GMT
#655
On March 17 2018 18:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:27 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote:
Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason.


The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map.

The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural.


Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map.

Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months.


I only hope that Blizzard in its infinite wisdom mostly ignores the public voting. 16-bit being on a ladder is unfortunately kind of a given unfortunately, but if Blizzard doesn't put Dreamcatcher in the pool, and also avoids putting both Catalyst and Blueshift in the same map pool, I think it could be okay.

And that's the first veto. How much further down the deep end will we go?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 17 2018 09:31 GMT
#656
Without detection Classic is really in the dark about those lurkers
Neosteel Enthusiast
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 17 2018 09:32 GMT
#657
ZvP
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16057 Posts
March 17 2018 09:32 GMT
#658
On March 17 2018 18:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:27 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote:
Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason.


The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map.

The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural.


Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map.

Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months.


I only hope that Blizzard in its infinite wisdom mostly ignores the public voting. 16-bit being on a ladder is unfortunately kind of a given unfortunately, but if Blizzard doesn't put Dreamcatcher in the pool, and also avoids putting both Catalyst and Blueshift in the same map pool, I think it could be okay.

Catalyst will be gone anyway as they usually don't keep a map in for 3 seasons
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
March 17 2018 09:32 GMT
#659
Best Korean Protoss?
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 17 2018 09:32 GMT
#660
On March 17 2018 18:32 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 18:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:27 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:24 Elentos wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 18:20 Morbidius wrote:
Ill place all the blame on TLMC for voting in more and more "free 4 bases NR20 maps" for this kind of shit. CJ Biome was considered a joke map when it released and it was for a good reason.


The puzzling bit is that Eastwatch was technically a 'standard' map and not a 'macro' map.

The maps just keep getting bigger man. Give it 2 more years and all maps will be no rush 20 because that's how long you need to get across from natural to natural.


Despite the maps in TLMC10 being rather meh, I do think they are rather more moderate in size than the previous two TLMCs. For example Fracture a 'standard' map is basically a rush map.

Kinda true. Although this TLMC has a terrible top 5 so that's what's gonna hit us on ladder in 2 months.


I only hope that Blizzard in its infinite wisdom mostly ignores the public voting. 16-bit being on a ladder is unfortunately kind of a given unfortunately, but if Blizzard doesn't put Dreamcatcher in the pool, and also avoids putting both Catalyst and Blueshift in the same map pool, I think it could be okay.

Catalyst will be gone anyway as they usually don't keep a map in for 3 seasons

If Abyssal Reef of all maps stayed so long, I'm afraid Catalyst is gonna stay too.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h 44m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 314
UpATreeSC 307
OGKoka 224
elazer 186
TKL 147
IndyStarCraft 88
White-Ra 55
ForJumy 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 526
Aegong 60
JulyZerg 18
IntoTheRainbow 14
LancerX 9
Dota 2
qojqva2940
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
byalli528
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu365
Other Games
Grubby2780
FrodaN782
Beastyqt629
shoxiejesuss283
shahzam213
Pyrionflax137
C9.Mang0134
ArmadaUGS124
Dewaltoss69
Trikslyr59
KnowMe56
Mew2King29
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1591
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 325
Other Games
BasetradeTV73
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 49
• mYiSmile14
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota277
• Noizen24
League of Legends
• Nemesis6165
• TFBlade1265
• Doublelift943
Other Games
• imaqtpie947
• Shiphtur199
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
13h 44m
WardiTV Team League
15h 44m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-10
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.