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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 04 2018 14:53 GMT
#1281
On March 04 2018 23:50 leublix wrote:
2017 Katowice > 2018 Katowice.

It's close but the final day was just too underwhelming.


Lol not even close. 2018 wins by far. Even this final day was great, aside from Serral being in the semis, but well you cant have everything
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-04 14:55:24
March 04 2018 14:54 GMT
#1282
EDIT: worng thread
this is a quote
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 04 2018 14:55 GMT
#1283
On March 04 2018 23:49 Mike L wrote:
why on aligulac after update MC still counted as the 2nd most earned player, when i`m sure that i saw an article here about sOs finally outnumbered him?


People usually cite esportsearnings which splits money from team events equally amongst all member. IIRC Aligulac completely ignores team event
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 04 2018 14:55 GMT
#1284
On March 04 2018 23:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 23:50 leublix wrote:
2017 Katowice > 2018 Katowice.

It's close but the final day was just too underwhelming.


Lol not even close. 2018 wins by far. Even this final day was great, aside from Serral being in the semis, but well you cant have everything


Most of the tournament 2018>2017. But this final day was a bit lame. Serral Vs classic and rogue vs classic were disappointing. The only series worth watching was Maru Vs rogue and even that was a lot of allns and quick endings.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
March 04 2018 14:57 GMT
#1285
On March 04 2018 23:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 23:44 goody153 wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:40 Musicus wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:38 Boggyb wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:36 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:35 Musicus wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:34 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:33 Musicus wrote:
What the actual fuck!!!

How did he win this?

I came back when queens and ravagers werre killing stuff in fron of Classic's natural, wtf

Classic went mass oracle and suicided them to queens and spores for 3 minutes.

Best player in the world by far right?

Yeah he is, that's why he's winning the same GSL from which Rogue got eliminated by Scarlett.

Is it really hard to understand that his motivation waned after winning $300,000 in 2017 and he needed time to get back into form?

Grubby and Madfrog had some very intersting things to say about this topic in the wc3 invitational. About finding motivation and getting back to playing well again after winning a huge tournament.

Madfrog said he was satisfied after one big win and being the best in world for a day, while Grubby said he couldn't play well for quite some time after winning a WCG.

I think this isn't an uncommon statement from esports.

I've heard plenty of players and teams from dota 2 after winning TI who just lost motivation afterwards(winning a million or more for each players helps that ) but there's rarely been a team who still does well afterwards. There was one team who just stopped practicing started playing mmos in place lmao

and then there's INnoVation who just doesn't care and wins tournament after tournament

I don't just mean "tournaments" since i've seen in all esports dominating teams keep dominating but rather the world championships.

Like TI winners(dota2), blizzcon winners(bunch of blizz games), worlds(LoL) winners etc
this is a quote
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
March 04 2018 14:57 GMT
#1286
Artosis called Rogue a bonjwa? lol, I think it's impossible to brand anyone a bonjwa in SC2, because of the lack of a teamleague, and the nature of the game itself which doesn't allow for consistent periods of dominance. Plus, my personal take is that to be considered a bonjwa, you need to have at least won a starleague, and Rogue just bombed out of the GSL so yeah.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 04 2018 14:59 GMT
#1287
On March 04 2018 23:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 23:50 leublix wrote:
2017 Katowice > 2018 Katowice.

It's close but the final day was just too underwhelming.


Lol not even close. 2018 wins by far. Even this final day was great, aside from Serral being in the semis, but well you cant have everything


The final day was better last year, but otherwise yea, 2018 > 2017
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16081 Posts
March 04 2018 14:59 GMT
#1288
On March 04 2018 23:57 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 23:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:44 goody153 wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:40 Musicus wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:38 Boggyb wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:36 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:35 Musicus wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:34 Ej_ wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:33 Musicus wrote:
What the actual fuck!!!

How did he win this?

I came back when queens and ravagers werre killing stuff in fron of Classic's natural, wtf

Classic went mass oracle and suicided them to queens and spores for 3 minutes.

Best player in the world by far right?

Yeah he is, that's why he's winning the same GSL from which Rogue got eliminated by Scarlett.

Is it really hard to understand that his motivation waned after winning $300,000 in 2017 and he needed time to get back into form?

Grubby and Madfrog had some very intersting things to say about this topic in the wc3 invitational. About finding motivation and getting back to playing well again after winning a huge tournament.

Madfrog said he was satisfied after one big win and being the best in world for a day, while Grubby said he couldn't play well for quite some time after winning a WCG.

I think this isn't an uncommon statement from esports.

I've heard plenty of players and teams from dota 2 after winning TI who just lost motivation afterwards(winning a million or more for each players helps that ) but there's rarely been a team who still does well afterwards. There was one team who just stopped practicing started playing mmos in place lmao

and then there's INnoVation who just doesn't care and wins tournament after tournament

I don't just mean "tournaments" since i've seen in all esports dominating teams keep dominating but rather the world championships.

Like TI winners(dota2), blizzcon winners(bunch of blizz games), worlds(LoL) winners etc

Okay.
Then Life is the exception
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 04 2018 14:59 GMT
#1289
On March 04 2018 23:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 23:50 leublix wrote:
2017 Katowice > 2018 Katowice.

It's close but the final day was just too underwhelming.


Lol not even close. 2018 wins by far. Even this final day was great, aside from Serral being in the semis, but well you cant have everything



Lol 2017 was great over all, 2018 has a shity final day, and the final day is the last taste in the mouth. 2017 had an incredible final and great semi finals. 2018 isn't even close.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16081 Posts
March 04 2018 15:00 GMT
#1290
On March 04 2018 23:59 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 23:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:50 leublix wrote:
2017 Katowice > 2018 Katowice.

It's close but the final day was just too underwhelming.


Lol not even close. 2018 wins by far. Even this final day was great, aside from Serral being in the semis, but well you cant have everything



Lol 2017 was great over all, 2018 has a shity final day, and the final day is the last taste in the mouth. 2017 had an incredible final and great semi finals. 2018 isn't even close.

I don't know, I really enjoyed the 2 semis, only the finals was bad.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 04 2018 15:00 GMT
#1291
I've been catching up since this started so damned early and while Rogue vs. Maru was very nice, there doesn't seem to be any videos for the finals?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-04 15:03:22
March 04 2018 15:02 GMT
#1292
So far Z 100% WR in finals in 2018 and all vs P
2 of them were 4-1, this one was 4-0
Faker is the GOAT!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 04 2018 15:03 GMT
#1293
On March 05 2018 00:00 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 23:59 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:50 leublix wrote:
2017 Katowice > 2018 Katowice.

It's close but the final day was just too underwhelming.


Lol not even close. 2018 wins by far. Even this final day was great, aside from Serral being in the semis, but well you cant have everything



Lol 2017 was great over all, 2018 has a shity final day, and the final day is the last taste in the mouth. 2017 had an incredible final and great semi finals. 2018 isn't even close.

I don't know, I really enjoyed the 2 semis, only the finals was bad.


Other than 2-3 of the maru-rogues games, the ro4/final today wasn't really exciting
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 04 2018 15:09 GMT
#1294
On March 05 2018 00:02 AzAlexZ wrote:
So far Z 100% WR in finals in 2018 and all vs P
2 of them were 4-1, this one was 4-0



But nerf Ravens
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 04 2018 15:10 GMT
#1295
On March 05 2018 00:03 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2018 00:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:59 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:50 leublix wrote:
2017 Katowice > 2018 Katowice.

It's close but the final day was just too underwhelming.


Lol not even close. 2018 wins by far. Even this final day was great, aside from Serral being in the semis, but well you cant have everything



Lol 2017 was great over all, 2018 has a shity final day, and the final day is the last taste in the mouth. 2017 had an incredible final and great semi finals. 2018 isn't even close.

I don't know, I really enjoyed the 2 semis, only the finals was bad.


Other than 2-3 of the maru-rogues games, the ro4/final today wasn't really exciting


It wasn't tense and close, but both Classic and Rogue showed quality plays. Even Maru. I enjoyed today a lot. Just Serral was abysmal, but that was to be expected.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
RoflStomped
Profile Joined July 2017
Iceland21 Posts
March 04 2018 15:19 GMT
#1296
4-0 finals are not entertaining, out of how many players that have come and gone and the amazing games we have seen, the last series was the biggest anti-climax of the week.

The best finals have some kind of back and forth interaction, and when one player is just backed into a corner for 4 games it's just embarrassing.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 04 2018 15:19 GMT
#1297
On March 05 2018 00:10 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2018 00:03 Fango wrote:
On March 05 2018 00:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:59 Mun_Su wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On March 04 2018 23:50 leublix wrote:
2017 Katowice > 2018 Katowice.

It's close but the final day was just too underwhelming.


Lol not even close. 2018 wins by far. Even this final day was great, aside from Serral being in the semis, but well you cant have everything



Lol 2017 was great over all, 2018 has a shity final day, and the final day is the last taste in the mouth. 2017 had an incredible final and great semi finals. 2018 isn't even close.

I don't know, I really enjoyed the 2 semis, only the finals was bad.


Other than 2-3 of the maru-rogues games, the ro4/final today wasn't really exciting


It wasn't tense and close, but both Classic and Rogue showed quality plays. Even Maru. I enjoyed today a lot. Just Serral was abysmal, but that was to be expected.

Yeah it's unfortunate that a trash Serral somehow sneaked in into the final day. We get it.
why even
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 04 2018 15:20 GMT
#1298
Blame Maru for the shit finals. Shouldn’t have blown it vs rogue
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 04 2018 15:21 GMT
#1299
On March 05 2018 00:20 Shellshock wrote:
Blame Maru for the shit finals. Shouldn’t have blown it vs rogue

Maru would have lost 0-4 in the finals He robbed us, bonjwa classic won't happen now because of this TT
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 04 2018 15:22 GMT
#1300
On March 05 2018 00:20 Shellshock wrote:
Blame Maru for the shit finals. Shouldn’t have blown it vs rogue

I feel like Maru would have lost 4:0 or 4:1 to Classic.
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