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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 27 2018 13:52 GMT
#141
Is that build actually good? A standard 2 rax proxy to cancel the natural just seems better. The rax were so far away as well
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
January 27 2018 13:53 GMT
#142
On January 27 2018 22:52 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 22:51 Argonauta wrote:
lol whty he didnt klill the natural?

you lose the game anyway then, proxy 4rax needs to win right away



I dont see how, giving 1 base vs 1 base.... How can be worse for the terran? specially if he bunkers serral's nat
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
January 27 2018 13:53 GMT
#143
I didn't realize BitbyBitPrime came back to SC2 and changed his tag.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 27 2018 13:53 GMT
#144
On January 27 2018 22:53 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 22:52 Ej_ wrote:
On January 27 2018 22:51 Argonauta wrote:
lol whty he didnt klill the natural?

you lose the game anyway then, proxy 4rax needs to win right away



I dont see how, giving 1 base vs 1 base.... How can be worse for the terran? specially if he bunkers serral's nat

he had 11 workers mining at home, ravagers can easily break out the contain
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 27 2018 13:54 GMT
#145
On January 27 2018 22:52 Fango wrote:
Is that build actually good? A standard 2 rax proxy to cancel the natural just seems better. The rax were so far away as well

2-rax is a macro build, 4-rax is a kill move. uThermal wins his fair share of games against the top EU Zergs with 4-rax actually.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
busyghost
Profile Joined August 2017
82 Posts
January 27 2018 13:54 GMT
#146
On January 27 2018 22:51 Argonauta wrote:
lol whty he didnt klill the natural?


There is no point. If you do an 4 BB all in, killing the natural does not help you get anything. Because you have no tech no barracks at home. All zerg has to do is to get a few roach ravager and you are out.
To sum it up. if you do a proxy 4BB, you have to cripple your opponent with the first push.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
January 27 2018 13:54 GMT
#147
On January 27 2018 22:53 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 22:53 Argonauta wrote:
On January 27 2018 22:52 Ej_ wrote:
On January 27 2018 22:51 Argonauta wrote:
lol whty he didnt klill the natural?

you lose the game anyway then, proxy 4rax needs to win right away



I dont see how, giving 1 base vs 1 base.... How can be worse for the terran? specially if he bunkers serral's nat

he had 11 workers mining at home, ravagers can easily break out the contain



maybe you are right but I still fail to see it nvm
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 27 2018 13:54 GMT
#148
On January 27 2018 22:53 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 22:52 Ej_ wrote:
On January 27 2018 22:51 Argonauta wrote:
lol whty he didnt klill the natural?

you lose the game anyway then, proxy 4rax needs to win right away



I dont see how, giving 1 base vs 1 base.... How can be worse for the terran? specially if he bunkers serral's nat


4 rax is too allin for that. Zerg would just break the contain with ravengers and then terran has nothing at home.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
January 27 2018 13:55 GMT
#149
On January 27 2018 22:53 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 22:52 Ej_ wrote:
On January 27 2018 22:51 Argonauta wrote:
lol whty he didnt klill the natural?

you lose the game anyway then, proxy 4rax needs to win right away



I dont see how, giving 1 base vs 1 base.... How can be worse for the terran? specially if he bunkers serral's nat

You have only marines vs ravagers that have more range. You'll lose 100% if you only kill the natural.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 27 2018 13:56 GMT
#150
someone should tell Argonauta that killing the natural wouldn't have helped
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-27 14:00:20
January 27 2018 13:59 GMT
#151
Didn't even kill the hatch first try, O Canada
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
January 27 2018 14:00 GMT
#152
MaSa always tries to get the hatch instead of going for the drones like in game 1.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 27 2018 14:00 GMT
#153
On January 27 2018 22:59 Elentos wrote:
Didn't even kill the hatch, O Canada


Invested in the lair kill
Liquipedia"Expert"
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 27 2018 14:00 GMT
#154
If he focused the hatch would he have killed it before lair tech was available?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 27 2018 14:01 GMT
#155
MaSa got the lair this time, held Serral really behind now.
Life?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 27 2018 14:06 GMT
#156
backup spawning pool right next to it lol
Liquipedia"Expert"
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
January 27 2018 14:12 GMT
#157
If hatch wasn't so easy to kill, masa would be dead since 10min
busyghost
Profile Joined August 2017
82 Posts
January 27 2018 14:13 GMT
#158
this game is stunning.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 27 2018 14:13 GMT
#159
he didnt snipe those overseers
Liquipedia"Expert"
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 27 2018 14:14 GMT
#160
The swarm host general was executed, game over for Serral.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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