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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 29 2017 17:50 GMT
#461
Wow Major wtf.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
October 29 2017 17:50 GMT
#462
On October 30 2017 02:49 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:45 xenonn40 wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:42 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same

it wasn't back to back, Elazer won one between.
Polt won 4 harder WCS events


It is pretty ridiculous to claim Neeb is better than Polt was. But at the same time, one best of 3 does not take away from what Neeb has accomplished. I would not say that Neeb beating Rogue invalidates Rogue as possibly the best player in the world right now or that Major beating TY makes TY not significantly better than Major.

ofc bo3 allows for a lot of upsets.
I just find it ridicolous that people are treating Neeb as a top 3 player based on 1 bo3 against Rogue and on his WCS wins which every above average korean would have won.


I haven't been following LotV, and only been hearing all this talk about how Neeb is. Has Neeb been competing in Code S, and how has he done there?

He lost in qualifiers.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16029 Posts
October 29 2017 17:50 GMT
#463
On October 30 2017 02:49 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:45 xenonn40 wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:42 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same

it wasn't back to back, Elazer won one between.
Polt won 4 harder WCS events


It is pretty ridiculous to claim Neeb is better than Polt was. But at the same time, one best of 3 does not take away from what Neeb has accomplished. I would not say that Neeb beating Rogue invalidates Rogue as possibly the best player in the world right now or that Major beating TY makes TY not significantly better than Major.

ofc bo3 allows for a lot of upsets.
I just find it ridicolous that people are treating Neeb as a top 3 player based on 1 bo3 against Rogue and on his WCS wins which every above average korean would have won.


I haven't been following LotV, and only been hearing all this talk about how Neeb is. Has Neeb been competing in Code S, and how has he done there?

he tried this year in S3 and got knocked out in the qualifiers by Hurricane
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
October 29 2017 17:50 GMT
#464
On October 30 2017 02:50 Phredxor wrote:
Wow Major wtf.

More like TY wtf.
why even
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 29 2017 17:50 GMT
#465
On October 30 2017 02:49 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:45 xenonn40 wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:42 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same

it wasn't back to back, Elazer won one between.
Polt won 4 harder WCS events


It is pretty ridiculous to claim Neeb is better than Polt was. But at the same time, one best of 3 does not take away from what Neeb has accomplished. I would not say that Neeb beating Rogue invalidates Rogue as possibly the best player in the world right now or that Major beating TY makes TY not significantly better than Major.

ofc bo3 allows for a lot of upsets.
I just find it ridicolous that people are treating Neeb as a top 3 player based on 1 bo3 against Rogue and on his WCS wins which every above average korean would have won.


I haven't been following LotV, and only been hearing all this talk about how Neeb is. Has Neeb been competing in Code S, and how has he done there?

Lost in qualifiers to Hurricane
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
October 29 2017 17:51 GMT
#466
On October 30 2017 02:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:49 gTank wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:44 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:43 onPHYRE wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same


Are you comparing those WCS events to a GSL?

no foreigner got to ro16 in the GSL so getting there is probably harder than winning a WCS event.


Wrong: Naniwa!

I obviously meant this year

was Jinro this year?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 29 2017 17:51 GMT
#467
confirmed not mistranslation. Special best terran in the world
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
October 29 2017 17:51 GMT
#468
On October 30 2017 02:50 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:49 Zheryn wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:45 xenonn40 wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:42 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same

it wasn't back to back, Elazer won one between.
Polt won 4 harder WCS events


It is pretty ridiculous to claim Neeb is better than Polt was. But at the same time, one best of 3 does not take away from what Neeb has accomplished. I would not say that Neeb beating Rogue invalidates Rogue as possibly the best player in the world right now or that Major beating TY makes TY not significantly better than Major.

ofc bo3 allows for a lot of upsets.
I just find it ridicolous that people are treating Neeb as a top 3 player based on 1 bo3 against Rogue and on his WCS wins which every above average korean would have won.


I haven't been following LotV, and only been hearing all this talk about how Neeb is. Has Neeb been competing in Code S, and how has he done there?

he tried this year in S3 and got knocked out in the qualifiers by Hurricane


Oh okay. Seems a bit like an overstatement from Artosis to call him the best foreigner there has ever been then, if he hasn't even managed to qualify for the most competitive tournament.
hundred thousand krouner
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 29 2017 17:52 GMT
#469
On October 30 2017 02:50 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:50 Phredxor wrote:
Wow Major wtf.

More like TY wtf.

More like Stats & TY wtf.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
October 29 2017 17:52 GMT
#470
On October 30 2017 02:52 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:50 D-light wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:50 Phredxor wrote:
Wow Major wtf.

More like TY wtf.

More like Stats & TY wtf.

sneks dead
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2601 Posts
October 29 2017 17:52 GMT
#471
On October 30 2017 02:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:49 gTank wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:44 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:43 onPHYRE wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same


Are you comparing those WCS events to a GSL?

no foreigner got to ro16 in the GSL so getting there is probably harder than winning a WCS event.


Wrong: Naniwa!

I obviously meant this year


Well then you are right but still I would say Naniwa > Neeb
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 29 2017 17:52 GMT
#472
Nathanias wanted to go for the funny intro and got lost half way though. That's got to feel terrible when you're live
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16029 Posts
October 29 2017 17:53 GMT
#473
On October 30 2017 02:52 gTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:49 gTank wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:44 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:43 onPHYRE wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same


Are you comparing those WCS events to a GSL?

no foreigner got to ro16 in the GSL so getting there is probably harder than winning a WCS event.


Wrong: Naniwa!

I obviously meant this year


Well then you are right but still I would say Naniwa > Neeb

1. Stephano
2. Naniwa
3. Neeb

imo
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
October 29 2017 17:53 GMT
#474
On October 30 2017 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:45 xenonn40 wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:42 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same

it wasn't back to back, Elazer won one between.
Polt won 4 harder WCS events


It is pretty ridiculous to claim Neeb is better than Polt was. But at the same time, one best of 3 does not take away from what Neeb has accomplished. I would not say that Neeb beating Rogue invalidates Rogue as possibly the best player in the world right now or that Major beating TY makes TY not significantly better than Major.

ofc bo3 allows for a lot of upsets.
I just find it ridicolous that people are treating Neeb as a top 3 player based on 1 bo3 against Rogue and on his WCS wins which every above average korean would have won.


I certainly would not put him as a top 3 player, but one don't need to be a top 3 player to win this tournament. You need a few good matchups, and a few games to go your way. There is hype around Neeb because there is a realistic chance that he could go far in this tournament. With that said, I think Rogue is heavily favored in the rematch.

Personally, I like Neeb because he is humble. But I realize a lot of people want to root against him because he is American, and a lot of us American fans are annoying as fuck.
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
October 29 2017 17:53 GMT
#475
off topic but does anyone actually miss Polt

i know many here think of him as just someone lucky enough to survive region lock and farm the foreign tournaments

but i feel like his games, especially in the runs where he won the tournament, had a special kind of tension in them, and his playstyle was somewhat unique in that it was able to consistently elevate him to win a tournament every year in spite of constantly facing opponents with better mechanics, and was never based upon a single timing attack, a single all-in or any singular thing in the game, but rather consistently making better decisions

breaker1328
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada298 Posts
October 29 2017 17:54 GMT
#476
On October 30 2017 02:49 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:45 xenonn40 wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:42 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same

it wasn't back to back, Elazer won one between.
Polt won 4 harder WCS events


It is pretty ridiculous to claim Neeb is better than Polt was. But at the same time, one best of 3 does not take away from what Neeb has accomplished. I would not say that Neeb beating Rogue invalidates Rogue as possibly the best player in the world right now or that Major beating TY makes TY not significantly better than Major.

ofc bo3 allows for a lot of upsets.
I just find it ridicolous that people are treating Neeb as a top 3 player based on 1 bo3 against Rogue and on his WCS wins which every above average korean would have won.


I haven't been following LotV, and only been hearing all this talk about how Neeb is. Has Neeb been competing in Code S, and how has he done there?


Neeb didn't qualify for Code S this year, I believe he tried one of the earlier seasons. Of course, he was also busy winning 75% of the WCS events this year... The last one, including Challenger, he had a crazy map record like 30-2 or something stupid, he only dropped one map during the actual offline event. He is far and away the best foreigner this year.

I feel like if he moved to Korea and focused solely on the GSL there is an outside chance that he could still make Blizzcon next year on the Korean side... probably in 8th palce. Neeb is pretty damn good but he's not Korean so a lot of people on TL refuse to believe it.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
October 29 2017 17:54 GMT
#477
On October 30 2017 02:52 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:50 D-light wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:50 Phredxor wrote:
Wow Major wtf.

More like TY wtf.

More like Stats & TY wtf.

Yup.
why even
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
October 29 2017 17:54 GMT
#478
On October 30 2017 02:46 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:43 onPHYRE wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same


Are you comparing those WCS events to a GSL?

Romanian ancestry?

I didn't (;


Close - 100% Bulgarian.

I’m glad to hear because he had a great year but he is not on the same level as innovation, rogue, stats.
Livin' this life like it was written.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16029 Posts
October 29 2017 17:54 GMT
#479
On October 30 2017 02:53 EatingBomber wrote:
off topic but does anyone actually miss Polt



Is there anyone that doesn't miss Polt?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2601 Posts
October 29 2017 17:54 GMT
#480
On October 30 2017 02:53 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 02:52 gTank wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:49 gTank wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:44 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:43 onPHYRE wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:41 Penev wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:39 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2017 02:38 pvsnp wrote:
So........nothing going according to expectations today.

soO winning was pretty expected

didn't you hear? Neeb is the best player in the world

he won 3 WCS's back to back, show me a korean who did the same


Are you comparing those WCS events to a GSL?

no foreigner got to ro16 in the GSL so getting there is probably harder than winning a WCS event.


Wrong: Naniwa!

I obviously meant this year


Well then you are right but still I would say Naniwa > Neeb

1. Stephano
2. Naniwa
3. Neeb

imo



Ah yeah agreed, I forgot Stephano!!!
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
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