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Quarterfinals![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/663.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/951.jpg)  INnoVation vs ByuN![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/4729.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/575.jpg)  Dark vs TYResultsCSS: FO-nTTaX Awesomeness: Panda Banner: GSL | ||
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Pandemona
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Poll: Innovation vs Byun Innovation Wins (26) Byun Wins (13) 39 total votes Your vote: Innovation vs Byun | ||
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Head says INnoVation and TY. Heart says INnoVation and TY. So of course Dark will advance ezpz. | ||
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On September 02 2017 11:40 Seeker wrote: On my way to the FreeCUP studio. Maybe I'll get on cam and get a chance to say hi to you guys. Hey that's nice, have fun there! | ||
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I will have to contend myself with whining about spoiler tomorow morning. | ||
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On September 02 2017 12:03 Shellshock wrote: Inno wins another GSL tonight. everyone forfeits after seeing him dismantle ByuN Are you substituting in for GumBa today? | ||
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On September 02 2017 12:06 The_Templar wrote: Are you substituting in for GumBa today? Gumba wishes he was me | ||
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ByuN 3-2 INnoVationTY 3-1 Dark | ||
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On September 02 2017 11:17 cephistry2 wrote: I don't want Byun to beat sOs, I'd rather it be sOs vs Dark, TY, or INnoVation. And I think if both Byun and sOs can go to this GSL final, it'll be IEM Taipei final again, so I highly prefer Byun next to Dark. | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:18 The_Templar wrote: So, having not watched sc2 beyond highlights for over a year, how do TvTs normally play out? Doom drops. | ||
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Fun. That looked like a disaster, not sure why Byun attacked there. | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:18 The_Templar wrote: So, having not watched sc2 beyond highlights for over a year, how do TvTs normally play out? Where the FUCK have you been? | ||
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I'd rather not say. Yeah, uh.. at this rate this is a 3-0. ByuN please? | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:41 The_Templar wrote: WTF ByuN? If Byun can be aggressive, he almost always will be, whether it's a good idea or not | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:43 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: If Byun can be aggressive, he almost always will be, whether it's a good idea or not Surely there's a better way to do that than walking into tanks, though. | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:44 The_Templar wrote: Surely there's a better way to do that than walking into tanks, though. Highest skilled era | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:44 The_Templar wrote: Surely there's a better way to do that than walking into tanks, though. He is the greatest micro player of all time. Pls show some respect. | ||
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I thought ByuN was letting workers die in order to build up a bigger army + rely on extra orbitals (he has 12 mules)? | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:51 Ej_ wrote: Lose all workers so you can maek.moar mrine I mean, we just saw how good marines are against vikings. | ||
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wtf happened | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:56 Topin wrote: noooo! i thought ByuN had the game won wtf happenedDidn't push his advantage and INnoVation clawed his way back in pretty quickly. | ||
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Phredxor
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On September 02 2017 13:56 Topin wrote: noooo! i thought ByuN had the game won wtf happened30 workers behind, 60 army supply up. Didn't do jack, lost to superior economy. | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:56 Topin wrote: noooo! i thought ByuN had the game won wtf happenedINnoVation had too much od the map for ByuN to do anything before his opponent remade the army. | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:58 iamho wrote: did byun dye his hair? Reminds me to leenock's case.Colored your hair and 4ever slump. | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:58 Ej_ wrote: INnoVation had too much od the map for ByuN to do anything before his opponent remade the army. should have gone for the heart and expect for the best was a better plan i guess? fuck inno dont do this T_T | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:00 usopsama wrote: I love watching overrated ByuN get rekted. Hey show some respect to the best micro player ever. | ||
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On September 02 2017 13:46 Phredxor wrote: He is the greatest micro player of all time. Pls show some respect. On September 02 2017 14:03 Alarak89 wrote: Hey show some respect to the best micro player ever. Is there a reference I'm missing here? | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:00 usopsama wrote: I love watching overrated ByuN get rekted. Blasphemy! | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:03 Alarak89 wrote: Hey show some respect to the best micro player ever. Don't worry. I will when it is TY's turn to play. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The one asset ByuN had which was his much faster stim and combat shield was completely wasted. He's making use of +1 armor. On September 02 2017 14:06 usopsama wrote: Don't worry. I will when it is TY's turn to play. It's ok to shitpost about anybody not from KeSPA, but let's not spread lies now  | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:03 The_Templar wrote: Is there a reference I'm missing here? Byun is the greatest micro player in the history of SC2. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:03 The_Templar wrote: Is there a reference I'm missing here? That's how Artosis described Byun for about 6 months straight after Blizzcon until he was proven wrong a few too many times in a row | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:06 Ej_ wrote: He's making use of +1 armor. It's ok to shitpost about anybody not from KeSPA, but let's not spread lies now Yeah. I'd praise a lot of things about TY ahead of his micro | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:03 The_Templar wrote: Is there a reference I'm missing here? I want Byun to advance rather than Bogus. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:09 The_Templar wrote: Did they just say 'we're going to go to game 3'? They foresee a draw which us mere mortals can't see yet. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Fuckin Banjo Haypro. That had to be the best meme SC2 ever produced it lost to Grack in the first round http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/321344-over-tl-esports-bracket | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:09 The_Templar wrote: Did they just say 'we're going to go to game 3'? Tasteless doesn't know much. Don't worry about what he says. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:09 Zzzapper wrote: it lost to Grack in the first round http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/321344-over-tl-esports-bracket That's a fuckin tragedy | ||
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At least Special Tactics won, could be worse. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:11 The_Templar wrote: At least Special Tactics won, could be worse. Artosis pylon should've been top4 for sure, TB ruined his section of the bracket | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:12 Zzzapper wrote: Artosis pylon should've been top4 for sure, TB ruined his section of the bracket No but listen TB wears a hat!!!!! IT's HILArIoUS!! | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:08 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Yeah. I'd praise a lot of things about TY ahead of his micro At least he splits his marines  | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:24 Ej_ wrote: INnoVation is ahead. I'm kind of surprised that I agree. It hasn't felt like it. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:24 The_Templar wrote: I'm kind of surprised that I agree. It hasn't felt like it. He only flew the low HP banshee back to force another scan before his 2nd banshee was at ByuN's base. When ByuN scanned the 2nd one, he had to gave up 3rd mule in a row. Then the hellion saw the drop and INno killed 2 medivacs full of marines for 5 workers and a tank. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:26 Ej_ wrote: He only flew the low HP banshee back to force another scan before his 2nd banshee was at ByuN's base. When ByuN scanned the 2nd one, he had to gave up 3rd mule in a row. Then the hellion saw the drop and INno killed 2 medivacs full of marines for 5 workers and a tank. I'm pretty sure the low health banshee even got close enough to the turret that ByuN wouldn't have had to scan for it. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:32 usopsama wrote: When you are overrated, you get rekted 1-3. I don't think it counts as being 'overrated' if everyone is expecting you to lose. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:32 usopsama wrote: When you are overrated, you get rekted 1-3. Does anyone actually think Byun is better than inno in TvT? He is in TvP for sure btw | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I don't think it counts as being 'overrated' if everyone is expecting you to lose. Overrated is probably when you scout a proxy stargate, unpower it and then still lose the game to Protoss down on eco making just gateway units. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I don't think it counts as being 'overrated' if everyone is expecting you to lose. If you put it like that, I agree. | ||
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p.s: lol i cursed him i guess | ||
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Edit: LOL | ||
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M E C H A N I C | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:36 Zzzapper wrote: Don't worry ,last time inno made a huge throw he still won On September 02 2017 14:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote: INno's still ahead, but that wasn't part of the script. On September 02 2017 14:37 Ej_ wrote: Yeah no INnoVation is still winning. On September 02 2017 14:37 yht9657 wrote: inno still way ahead, in economy & upgrades and air superiority ARE YOU SURE | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:40 The_Templar wrote: ARE YOU SURE Yes. | ||
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man i am ashamed now :D i thought inno beat him when he attacked byuns 4th | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:40 The_Templar wrote: ARE YOU SURE how can a man throw if he's not ahead? | ||
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He was definitely ahead until that crazy engagement. | ||
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I mean he was still ahead even after the engagement ByuN had nothing but a temporary supply lead and momentum, but INno made the mistake of believing in it. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:42 Ej_ wrote: One one hand, I liquibet INnoVation. On the other, usopsama would shut up for at least an hour. Tough choices all around. Same for me. On one hand I dislike Byun. On the other I find it hilarious when the GOAT loses. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:44 Phredxor wrote: Same for me. On one hand I dislike Byun. On the other I find it hilarious when the GOAT loses. So true, I feel torn inside right now. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:44 The_Templar wrote: I liquibetted ByuN but I'm more of a fan of INnoVation so I can't really be disappointed here. Liquibetting against the players you like is a tried and true strategy. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Liquibetting against the players you like is a tried and true strategy. I actually just pick randomly. | ||
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I used to do BW liquibets like that. Though it wasn't actually random since I liquibetted the people with pictures when I could. It worked really well, but unfortunately everyone has pictures nowadays . | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I used to do BW liquibets like that. Though it wasn't actually random since I just liquibetted the people with pictures. It worked really well, but unfortunately everyone has pictures nowadays . it's pretty obvious that people with pictures would be better on average | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I used to do BW liquibets like that. Though it wasn't actually random since I just liquibetted the people with pictures. It worked really well, but unfortunately everyone has pictures nowadays . There's chance some amateurs qualify today for ASL so this is your chance. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:52 Ej_ wrote: Can INnoVation choke now?! Uh, probably not. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:51 Zzzapper wrote: it's pretty obvious that people with pictures would be better on average Yeah. It was pretty surprising how effective it was at times. I'm pretty sure I broke 70% during some of those seasons. | ||
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innovation deserved this win though | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Yeah. It was pretty surprising how effective it was at times. I'm pretty sure I broke 70% during some of those seasons. Oh wow, I didn't think it would be that good | ||
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I'm glad that Inno won but I feel super bad for Byun, he tried so hard and played so well in games 3-4. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:56 Topin wrote: how are ByuN chances to make it to BlizzCon ? can i believe? Decent. He needs to do well in the Super Tournament. | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:38 Diabolique wrote: dead I was correct once again | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:56 Topin wrote: how are ByuN chances to make it to BlizzCon ? can i believe? If sOs advances he's in real trouble but otherwise he just has to do decently in ST or hope that the handful of people who can take over don't | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:59 Mun_Su wrote: INno asking for TvT over TvZ, on what world do we live... In the world where Inno whines about balance every time he loses any games in practice. | ||
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he was so close to win the series *sigh* | ||
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On September 02 2017 14:58 pvsnp wrote: Decent. He needs to do well in the Super Tournament. He might not even need to. He has a 500 point lead over 9th place. Only Classic or sOs could conceivably pass him before the Super tournament, and if the usual suspects seize the top spots, no one will be in position to catch up to him. | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:01 yht9657 wrote: how many dresses does Gyuri have? I just can't recall her wearing the same dress on a different day, or does the studio provide them? must be provided by the studio | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:00 Elentos wrote: In the world where Inno whines about balance every time he loses any games in practice. I remember when he whined that hydra bane was OP after losing to soO. That was 2 months before the hydra buff. | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:01 Alarak89 wrote: And I should expect another 3-2, right? But who will be that 3? well it's GSL quarterfinals and one of the players is called TY so... | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:02 Ej_ wrote: I remember when he whined that hydra bane was OP after losing to soO. That was 2 months before the hydra buff. He's calculated that whining tilts his opponent and improves his chances of victory by 0.0173%. | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:08 Elentos wrote: Now please Dark vs TY, be good Dark is gonna STOMP | ||
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Savage TY | ||
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) in his first Ro8 in Code S against TY, the guy who doesn't remember what it feels like to finish worse than top 8. | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:04 pvsnp wrote: He's calculated that whining tilts his opponent and improves his chances of victory by 0.0173%. I kinda likes this mentallity. soO Classic and Inno were quite the crybabies about their race. Now I don't care who win, just good games please. | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:12 pvsnp wrote: Heart says TY, head says Dark My heart screams 'GOOD GAMES PLEASE' | ||
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last series was pretty good... i believe this one will be too | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:17 Seeker wrote: I never noticed this before... But holy shit... Dark has hairy arms... He's a bear. | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:18 Elentos wrote: Why was there a gold medal next to TY's name? Did he win a secret GSL nobody told me about? It was a silver medal. | ||
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It was very clearly a gold medal on the screen with his 81% TvZ winrate. | ||
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Mark my words, I will be correct again. | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:19 Elentos wrote: It was very clearly a gold medal on the screen with his 81% TvZ winrate. I most definitely saw a silver medal next to TY's name, did they change the color while I was drinking? | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:20 pvsnp wrote: I most definitely saw a silver medal next to TY's name, did they change the color while I was drinking? TY the alchemist terran. | ||
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e: oh nvm he just made the lab early | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:22 pvsnp wrote: Wonder if TY will mech it up It's mech opening so probably. e: and then he jsut shuffles every add on haha | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:22 Ej_ wrote: It's mech opening so probably. e: and then he jsut shuffles every add on haha Yeah, as soon as I posted that I saw him drop 2 more rax | ||
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fun times for dark :D | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:22 Ej_ wrote: It's mech opening so probably. e: and then he jsut shuffles every add on haha I don't think any terran player could play mech beside gumiho.Most mech plays comes from other usually rely on zerg players 's experience. | ||
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On September 02 2017 15:26 yht9657 wrote: that's the best micro player right there | ||
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Ej_
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On September 02 2017 15:27 seemsgood wrote: I don't think any terran player could play mech beside gumiho.Most mech plays comes from other usually rely on zerg players 's experience. TY mechs. | ||
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Diabolique
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Ej_
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seemsgood
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Never seen one :O He only meching in some pre-3.8 -near blizzcon games. | ||
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Zzzapper
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ByuuN
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Ej_
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yht9657
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Isualin
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Zzzapper
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On September 02 2017 15:32 Isualin wrote: the giant tank push was rendered completely useless by 3 blinding clouds t3 army beats t2 army on even supply? hmmm | ||
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Ej_
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On September 02 2017 15:34 Zzzapper wrote: t3 army beats t2 army on even supply? hmmm Back in HotS you could beat hive tech Zerg with 4M, what is this new shit imbalanced expansion?! | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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pvsnp
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In the Ro16 interview that is, he got asked about his reverse-sweep curse. | ||
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yht9657
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On September 02 2017 15:35 Inflicted wrote: Someone close INno's eyes, this is disgusting I'll do it. Dark is so strong in mid-late game ZvT | ||
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The_Templar
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pvsnp
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On September 02 2017 15:37 The_Templar wrote: Honestly it looked like to me that TY lost that engagement with his tank push and that basically lost him the game. He missed the pre-Hive timing, and didn't have his own transition ready. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 02 2017 15:37 pvsnp wrote: He missed the pre-Hive timing, and didn't have his own transition ready. Makes sense. Those ultralisks were cleaning house. | ||
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Elentos
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On September 02 2017 15:37 pvsnp wrote: He missed the pre-Hive timing, and didn't have his own transition ready. It's hard to hit a pre-hive timing on Ascension because the map is so damn huge. And it's also hard to play late game on it because it's so damn huge. | ||
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seemsgood
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On September 02 2017 15:39 The_Templar wrote: God damn it I'm tired, stop playing macro games. You could 5 rax reapers in the test map.Blizzard clearly wants to make byun become bonjwa. | ||
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pvsnp
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On September 02 2017 15:39 Elentos wrote: It's hard to hit a pre-hive timing on Ascension because the map is so damn huge. And it's also hard to play late game on it because it's so damn huge. True as you tell it. But that is still why TY lost. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 02 2017 15:39 Elentos wrote: It's hard to hit a pre-hive timing on Ascension because the map is so damn huge. And it's also hard to play late game on it because it's so damn huge. Good thing the next two maps are even bigger (though Mech Depot does play a little smaller). | ||
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pvsnp
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Zzzapper
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On September 02 2017 15:41 pvsnp wrote: Maybe the fast 3rd CC will help him (probably not) He had 90 scvs late game, I don't think economy is what he needs | ||
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EatingBomber
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seemsgood
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The_Templar
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Isualin
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nvm they are stupid out of creep | ||
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Ej_
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Diabolique
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Zzzapper
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yht9657
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pvsnp
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The_Templar
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On September 02 2017 15:49 pvsnp wrote: TFW Terran is up 20 workers on Zerg. After losing 8 scvs He just lost 20 SCVs and is still up 12 workers. | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
them battlecruisers and ravens would help a ton right now | ||
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Ej_
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On September 02 2017 15:51 Isualin wrote: i guess Dark was smart enough to tech to tier 3 unlike TY them battlecruisers and ravens would help a ton right nowOr TY could make 20 more SCVs and lose 2 more satelite bases as he sieges mass liberators with no anti air in the Zerg main :D | ||
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Zzzapper
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ZigguratOfUr
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On September 02 2017 15:51 Isualin wrote: i guess Dark was smart enough to tech to tier 3 unlike TY them battlecruisers and ravens would help a ton right nowWhy have a battlecruiser when you could have 6 more SCVs. | ||
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Mun_Su
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SetGuitarsToKill
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yht9657
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Zzzapper
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Diabolique
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pvsnp
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Elentos
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On September 02 2017 15:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I thought Dark was super duper dead right before those ultras came out He would have been super duper dead if the ultras didn't come out. Luckily ultras with transfuse don't care about units. | ||
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yht9657
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On September 02 2017 15:55 Diabolique wrote: Well done Dark, thank you for contributing to another sOs's BlizzCon title. I do believe TY is the most doable player for sOs in the lower bracket. | ||
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Zzzapper
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On September 02 2017 15:56 Elentos wrote: He would have been super duper dead if the ultras didn't come out. Luckily ultras with transfuse don't care about units. Still, I've lost tons of games in that exact spot. 2 or 3 ultras pop out right when you're about to die, transfuses keep them alive but then you push off creep and lose the ultras as well as all of your queens | ||
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seemsgood
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pvsnp
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Elentos
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On September 02 2017 15:57 Zzzapper wrote: Still, I've lost tons of games in that exact spot. 2 or 3 ultras pop out right when you're about to die, transfuses keep them alive but then you push off creep and lose the ultras as well as all of your queens Most Terrans would have had more units rallying in for 30 less workers | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 02 2017 15:57 yht9657 wrote: I do believe TY is the most doable player for sOs in the lower bracket. But TY would not beat Innovation. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 02 2017 15:57 Zzzapper wrote: Still, I've lost tons of games in that exact spot. 2 or 3 ultras pop out right when you're about to die, transfuses keep them alive but then you push off creep and lose the ultras as well as all of your queens To be fair often you're defending the fourth against that Terran push, but Dark was defending his fifth instead which gives him more resources. | ||
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Isualin
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Durnuu
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On September 02 2017 15:58 seemsgood wrote: What is the different between making 90 scvs and making 70 scvs + 3 CCs ? 20 supplies | ||
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Elentos
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On September 02 2017 15:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote: To be fair often you're defending the fourth against that Terran push, but Dark was defending his fifth instead which gives him more resources. That was absolutely his 4th. | ||
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pvsnp
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Defeat. | ||
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EatingBomber
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ZigguratOfUr
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Okay, but his fifth was fully up and mining by that point. | ||
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Elentos
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On September 02 2017 15:58 pvsnp wrote: TY basically just didn't get the memo that Zerg has better lategame than Terran. It's not like he's doing nothing and trying to let things go late like aLive often does. He just barely didn't kill him before late game. | ||
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The_Templar
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Now I can go to bed. | ||
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EatingBomber
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Zzzapper
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On September 02 2017 15:08 Zzzapper wrote: Dark is gonna STOMP | ||
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Durnuu
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Elentos
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CynicalDeath
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Seeker
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Isualin
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2nd game: TY 100 scvs 3rd game: fucking bopped not the series i hoped for | ||
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Mun_Su
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Ej_
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Sakat
Croatia1599 Posts
I fully expect Stats to win the season now | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On September 02 2017 14:06 usopsama wrote: Don't worry. I will when it is TY's turn to play. I guess I never want to be "the greatest micro player ever". | ||
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pvsnp
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Shots fired. | ||
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Elentos
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On September 02 2017 16:03 Durnuu wrote: I feel bad for TY I mean it's his fault. Going up to 96 SCVs, letting the series start with the 3 biggest maps. | ||
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yht9657
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Sakat
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On September 02 2017 16:06 Zzzapper wrote: Best player of each race in the ro4. Can't remember the last time that happened Best player of each race and the best player of the mindfuck race | ||
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pvsnp
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Isualin
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On September 02 2017 16:07 Sakat wrote: Best player of each race and the best player of the mindfuck race If only Has could make it to the finals | ||
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Sakat
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ZigguratOfUr
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If only Has could make it to Ro8 WCS. | ||
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Inflicted
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Elentos
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On September 02 2017 16:11 Inflicted wrote: INno must be drowning in his tears by now He does not detect any coolant leaks at this time. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On September 02 2017 16:11 Inflicted wrote: INno must be drowning in his tears by now After that game 4 he must be getting patched. | ||
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Alarak89
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On September 02 2017 16:08 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs sOs GSL finals plz, so Stats vs Dark can be SSL finals It'll be sick if that's the actual GSL final, two of the most accomplished players will meet again after 4 yeras in the grand final. But Dark is a better option for sOs to go to Blizzcon apparently. | ||
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yht9657
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On September 02 2017 16:08 pvsnp wrote: Inno vs sOs GSL finals plz, so Stats vs Dark can be SSL finals No, we have seen enough of Innovation 4-0 finals | ||
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Elentos
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On September 02 2017 16:17 Myrddrael wrote: I've always found it ridiculous how if you don't beat Zerg before lategame, you're done. Awful design You're not done just because Zerg gets to late game. The problem is with the maps in this case. Ascension, Odyssey, Acolyte and (to some extent) Mech Depot are all too big and spread out to play late game TvZ with any comfort. Abyssal Reef and Newkirk would have been fine, but TY opted to have them go last for some reason. Also on Acolyte TY got a bit unlucky with his timing, if his massive drop had arrived earlier he could have made sure no corruptors ever see the light of day, and then that drop would have probably been game-winning. Alternatively, had he not gone for the drop at all, he would have saved some of his bases. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On September 02 2017 16:27 Elentos wrote: You're not done just because Zerg gets to late game. The problem is with the maps in this case. Ascension, Odyssey, Acolyte and (to some extent) Mech Depot are all too big and spread out to play late game TvZ with any comfort. Abyssal Reef and Newkirk would have been fine, but TY opted to have them go last for some reason. Dunno. I think you lose even on Abyssal or Newkirk if you have 100 SCVs. | ||
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Elentos
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On September 02 2017 16:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Dunno. I think you lose even on Abyssal or Newkirk if you have 100 SCVs. On those maps Dark wouldn't have been comfortably on hive by the time TY pushed out so it's an entirely different set of circumstances. Obviously 96 SCVs is not optimal. | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On September 02 2017 16:23 Edpayasugo wrote: Where is the first place that the vods are available please? + Show Spoiler [INnoVation vs ByuN] + + Show Spoiler [Dark vs TY] + | ||
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2212 Posts
On September 02 2017 17:16 juicyjames wrote: + Show Spoiler [INnoVation vs ByuN] + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLjwyyytFqU&list=PL9kbtXdyV0zuSsXXuK9UTg2camzyLxHIi&index=67 + Show Spoiler [Dark vs TY] + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFFs-rsQVss&index=68&list=PL9kbtXdyV0zuSsXXuK9UTg2camzyLxHIi Thank you! | ||
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DubiousC2
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On September 02 2017 17:17 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? All games of the ByuN vs Inno series, and MAYBE the first game of Dark vs TY. | ||
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Alarak89
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Well I guess it's not too bad to have the most in form players from each race, especially a random player, a sick Ro.4 for a long time. | ||
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On September 02 2017 18:54 Makro wrote: dark - ty was a stomp ? Yes. | ||
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pvsnp
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On September 03 2017 05:43 buffzerg33 wrote: So happy for Dark. Only protoss is imba atm, but tvz iz 50-50 and Dark`s best matchup. Inno should be scared. INnoVation feels no fear. He isn't programmed for it. Actually though, I would say those two are about dead even. Best ZvT vs best TvZ. Dark gets a slight edge because LBH is very strong atm but Inno gets a slight edge because he just got a great example of Dark's playstyle in the TY series. Too close to call, but those two will probably have a sick series regardless. | ||
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LtCalley
United States244 Posts
i get that TY is a more "strategic" player...he uses more scans and tries to make difficult to break positions in order to trade cost effectively. which isn't a bad way to play. but i feel that making 80-100 workers in every game is just bad play. in several engagements TY was literally about 20-30 supply from being able to push through dark's critical bases....which just happened to be the amount of scvs that he overbuilt (watch other terrans...65-70 is what they build) if you watch, most of the time even though he had more scvs than dark had drones, dark still had more mineral income because TY either has his scvs improperly spread between his bases, or he is banking too much energy on his orbitals by not using mules (or as i said scanning more than other terrans possibly) of the 4 horsemen i feel like he is the only player with a GLARING issue in his play...that being making too many scvs. i'm probably being overly critical, never been a fan of TY. Polt, ForGG, Innovation, Byun FTW! | ||
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Topin
Peru10044 Posts
inno vs ByuN was a good series... ByuN could have won it T_T | ||
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