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Elentos
55566 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Both teams simply put the players on the maps that favoured the races the most. I wonder what team world would do differently (if anything) if they knew the team GSL lineup though. Swap Serral with iA maybe. Step 1: Put iAsonu vs Stats  | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
GG to Nerchio for taking a game off Dark btw, better than I expected | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Is Stephano allowed to put himself forward as the ace player if need be? ace has to be Stephano vs NesTea if we come to that point | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:17 [PkF] Wire wrote: ace has to be Stephano vs NesTea if we come to that point Drinking contest or sc2 game? | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
bo5. The drinking contest decides who starts up 1-0, and then they play drunk. | ||
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Bayaz90
54 Posts
On August 04 2017 22:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Yeah, because he'd have to get a lead first. People actually pay attention to stuff like EPM? I do at least. I have been ever since SC2gears in WoL and you'd be surprised by the results. A couple years ago I was gonna make a big reddit post about it but things came up. Just to give you an example, in one of the Korean dominated MLGs. Koreans hit 200+ EPM 47 times. Foreigners hit it twice, and they were both Major. Players have gotten faster now, but the only foreign Terran that consistently hits 200+ EPM was Major. 200 being the "threshold" to be a great Terran I discovered but that line has moved move towards 220 now. For comparison, in game 1 of IEM Shanghai between Dark vs TY, TY had 258 EPM and Dark 220 EPM. A replay doesn't exist of a foreign Terran with 250 EPM. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:22 Bayaz90 wrote: I do at least. I have been ever since SC2gears in WoL and you'd be surprised by the results. A couple years ago I was gonna make a big reddit post about it but things came up. Just to give you an example, in one of the Korean dominated MLGs. Koreans hit 200+ EPM 47 times. Foreigners hit it twice, and they were both Major. Players have gotten faster now, but the only foreign Terran that consistently hits 200+ EPM was Major. 200 being the "threshold" to be a great Terran I discovered but that line has moved move towards 220 now. For comparison, in game 1 of IEM Shanghai between Dark vs TY, TY had 258 EPM and Dark 220 EPM. A replay doesn't exist of a foreign Terran with 250 EPM. Interesting. How does EPM compare between foreign and Korean zergs? And are there relatively bad pros that have very high EPM? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
 Stats 0-1  NerchiosOs 0-2 ShoWTimEHerO 0-3 Neeb TY 0-4 KelazhurByuN 0-5 MajOrsoO 1-5 iAsonuDark 2-5 ScarlettINnoVation 3-5 SerralINnoVation 4-5 Neeb (ace match)foreignland will win 5-4 | ||
Poopi
France12907 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:22 Bayaz90 wrote: I do at least. I have been ever since SC2gears in WoL and you'd be surprised by the results. A couple years ago I was gonna make a big reddit post about it but things came up. Just to give you an example, in one of the Korean dominated MLGs. Koreans hit 200+ EPM 47 times. Foreigners hit it twice, and they were both Major. Players have gotten faster now, but the only foreign Terran that consistently hits 200+ EPM was Major. 200 being the "threshold" to be a great Terran I discovered but that line has moved move towards 220 now. For comparison, in game 1 of IEM Shanghai between Dark vs TY, TY had 258 EPM and Dark 220 EPM. A replay doesn't exist of a foreign Terran with 250 EPM. That basically confirms terran is the hardest race mechanically hence the hardest race? Since everyone can think but not everyone can think and execute quickly | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:34 Fango wrote: Stats 0-1 NerchiosOs 0-2 ShoWTimEHerO 0-3 NeebTY 0-4 KelazhurByuN 0-5 MajOrsoO 1-5 iAsonuDark 2-5 ScarlettINnoVation 3-5 SerralINnoVation 4-5 Neeb (ace match)foreignland will win 5-4 They don't play an ace match if one team already has won after 8 games. Also... yeah 5-0 not gonna happen. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:36 Poopi wrote: That basically confirms terran is the hardest race mechanically hence the hardest race? Since everyone can think but not everyone can think and execute quickly Not really. Not all effective actions are equal especially between races. | ||
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Obamarauder
697 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:38 Elentos wrote: They don't play an ace match if one team already has won after 8 games. Also... yeah 5-0 not gonna happen. I thought they play all maps regardless of score? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:39 Obamarauder wrote: seriously why are there SIX mirror matches? They pick races to play on maps that favour those races | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:39 Fango wrote: I thought they play all maps regardless of score? Yep. | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:39 Fango wrote: I thought they play all maps regardless of score? They play the 8 scheduled sets regardless of the score but not the ace match I'm pretty sure. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16030 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Both teams simply put the players on the maps that favoured the races the most. I wonder what team world would do differently (if anything) if they knew the team GSL lineup though. Swap Serral with iA maybe. bad predicting skills by Stephano. He's no Iloveoov. | ||
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Bayaz90
54 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Interesting. How does EPM compare between foreign and Korean zergs? And are there relatively bad pros that have very high EPM? Players like Snute, Scarlett, Elazer, and Serral are on par, maybe a few pts below on average, with Top Tier Koreans, though a few outliers exist such as Losira who are faster on average. TLO hovers around 190-200. Nerchio is an anamoly, finding success with 160-180 epm, but we see the dividends from his poor creep spread.' The highest EPM average from a player I ever studied was Yoda, consistently 260+, but he did not have a very successful career before he retired. Golden also was very fast. Foreignerwise, Marinelord was over 200 EPM on many occassions, but didn't have much success. | ||
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Poopi
France12907 Posts
On August 04 2017 23:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Not really. Not all effective actions are equal especially between races. Which race got the most players injured already? | ||
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