Should I stay on the conference until a potentially controversial and thus possibly funny talk or should I go to my hotel and watch noregret kick ass?
In other news, I had pink Tropicana yesterday and it is really tasty, however I almost vomitted afterwards. Some soft drinks do that to me, I think it's some particular chemical that my stomach can't handle.
I just want NoRegret to do well because he's one of the last people I think would actually do well (of the people I think could make it) in the GSL.
I think he'll be out first with 0-4 with maybe a map win against Trap in the loser's match...but with the way the Korean tournaments have been going...who knows?
Btw. thinking about it, the biggest problem of the GSL studio is the lack of wifi. If I could have shitposted from there, that would have been perfect.
On July 19 2017 18:48 [PkF] Wire wrote: ok the masterplan is set, NoRegret looking like a scrub in the first game just to ensure herO gets overconfident
And then doing it again just to win the next two series 2-0.
On July 19 2017 18:48 [PkF] Wire wrote: ok the masterplan is set, NoRegret looking like a scrub in the first game just to ensure herO gets overconfident
And then doing it again just to win the next two series 2-0.
Surely.
yeah you're right this is the best plan, not revealing his trumps too early
On July 19 2017 18:48 [PkF] Wire wrote: ok the masterplan is set, NoRegret looking like a scrub in the first game just to ensure herO gets overconfident
And then doing it again just to win the next two series 2-0.
Surely.
Also the next two games. So that he wins the last match. The losers losers final.
On July 19 2017 18:48 [PkF] Wire wrote: ok the masterplan is set, NoRegret looking like a scrub in the first game just to ensure herO gets overconfident
And then doing it again just to win the next two series 2-0.
Surely.
yeah you're right this is the best plan, not revealing his trumps too early
On July 19 2017 19:50 Elentos wrote: These Zerg players should stop losing to Trap.
tbf that build was very original and clever
Samsung Protoss players were doing it a year ago.
in lotv ? Maybe that was at the time I had stopped playing and watching altogether, I don't remember seeing that ever. Or was it when nobody had figured out lurkers actually sucked ?
On July 19 2017 19:51 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Well Dark is so bad at ZvZ he might actually lose
Not against foreigners he isn't. (14-0 in matches)
NoRegreT is no ordinary foreigner
He actually has a positive winrate vs Korean Zergs
this is what I meant, I'm really convinced he can get to the decider. I'm less convinced about the ZvP, but if he hid his best builds I have mild hopes.
Sick plays by Trap. Hope he crushes herO now ! And No-Regret is a hilarious dude, but he is gonna get abused sooo hard by Dark, I dont know if I wanna watch that haha
On July 19 2017 19:59 OsaX Nymloth wrote: What builds did Trap do? I just tuned in.
blink collossus vs Z
only in the last game ; g1 he opened chargelot into DT pressure into a normal immortal storm chargelot game he lost because of one abysmal fight ; g2 Dark went for a very aggressive ravager all-in and Trap managed a clutch hold, went on to win the game easily afterwards (Dark was on 30 drones vs 50 probes).
herO is just disgusting... I used to love his plays but since LOTV I feel like he just cheeses in almost every game and abuses the Protoss BS as much as he can. Bleh, no fun at all in this :/ Come on Trap defend better
On July 19 2017 20:10 MarianoSC2 wrote: herO is just disgusting... I used to love his plays but since LOTV I feel like he just cheeses in almost every game and abuses the Protoss BS as much as he can. Bleh, no fun at all in this :/ Come on Trap defend better
herO has always played to win, he is no stranger to playing the trickster
On July 19 2017 20:10 MarianoSC2 wrote: herO is just disgusting... I used to love his plays but since LOTV I feel like he just cheeses in almost every game and abuses the Protoss BS as much as he can. Bleh, no fun at all in this :/ Come on Trap defend better
herO has always played to win, he is no stranger to playing the trickster
On July 19 2017 20:10 MarianoSC2 wrote: herO is just disgusting... I used to love his plays but since LOTV I feel like he just cheeses in almost every game and abuses the Protoss BS as much as he can. Bleh, no fun at all in this :/ Come on Trap defend better
herO has always played to win, he is no stranger to playing the trickster
I like how herO plays, primarily when he plays against sOs. Hopefully, they will play against each other this GSL season again.
On July 19 2017 20:10 MarianoSC2 wrote: herO is just disgusting... I used to love his plays but since LOTV I feel like he just cheeses in almost every game and abuses the Protoss BS as much as he can. Bleh, no fun at all in this :/ Come on Trap defend better
herO has always played to win, he is no stranger to playing the trickster
He used to play macro games in HotS though.
If "proxy twilight blink all-in every other game" is macro then yes
On July 19 2017 20:42 Musicus wrote: supply blocked at 30, noregret looks so bad :/
he's not used to reach that high :D.
I'm waiting on MajOr to decide if this batch of foreigners in GSL was a total failure or not. And then GSL vs the world is gonna be either interesting or hilarious
On July 19 2017 20:42 Musicus wrote: supply blocked at 30, noregret looks so bad :/
he's not used to reach that high :D.
I'm waiting on MajOr to decide if this batch of foreigners in GSL was a total failure or not. And then GSL vs the world is gonna be either interesting or hilarious
MajOr has a very doable group considering sOs' form. So he's gonna lose 0-4 somehow
On July 19 2017 20:42 Musicus wrote: supply blocked at 30, noregret looks so bad :/
he's not used to reach that high :D.
I'm waiting on MajOr to decide if this batch of foreigners in GSL was a total failure or not. And then GSL vs the world is gonna be either interesting or hilarious
MajOr has a very doable group considering sOs' form. So he's gonna lose 0-4 somehow
he should get second in his group, probably gonna end up being protossed.
On July 19 2017 20:51 Fango wrote: If Dark loss here he's out of the top 8. And there's only 2 other tournaments left to try and get point's out of
His best performances this year were all at weekenders though and his IEM group is doable enough.
It's a bad time of year to be out of the top 8 though. Considering almost everyone in the 6-12 region can get points from GSL, and iem/super tournament. Gsl ro8 gives more points than iem 2nd place
Jake seems like such a nice guy and hate to say bad things about him but Jesus his games were horrendous... Poor macro, supply block, fly a flock of overlords to opponent's side so they can kill them even faster. He stood no chance vs Koreans but I was hoping for a better showing. Well, this only makes Impact looks worse. How he can lose to this twice is beyond me.
Oh well, all expected players move on. Feel bad for Trap. He is a good player.
On July 20 2017 02:54 Vutalisk wrote: Jake seems like such a nice guy and hate to say bad things about him but Jesus his games were horrendous... Poor macro, supply block, fly a flock of overlords to opponent's side so they can kill them even faster. He stood no chance vs Koreans but I was hoping for a better showing. Well, this only makes Impact looks worse. How he can lose to this twice is beyond me.
Oh well, all expected players move on. Feel bad for Trap. He is a good player.
When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...)
We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes)
On July 20 2017 02:54 Vutalisk wrote: Jake seems like such a nice guy and hate to say bad things about him but Jesus his games were horrendous... Poor macro, supply block, fly a flock of overlords to opponent's side so they can kill them even faster. He stood no chance vs Koreans but I was hoping for a better showing. Well, this only makes Impact looks worse. How he can lose to this twice is beyond me.
Oh well, all expected players move on. Feel bad for Trap. He is a good player.
When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...)
We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes)
On July 20 2017 02:54 Vutalisk wrote: Jake seems like such a nice guy and hate to say bad things about him but Jesus his games were horrendous... Poor macro, supply block, fly a flock of overlords to opponent's side so they can kill them even faster. He stood no chance vs Koreans but I was hoping for a better showing. Well, this only makes Impact looks worse. How he can lose to this twice is beyond me.
Oh well, all expected players move on. Feel bad for Trap. He is a good player.
When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...)
We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes)
I mean, Mvp's Jan 2011 run was an utter destruction of everyone in Code S. But Nestea, IIRC.
On July 20 2017 02:54 Vutalisk wrote: Jake seems like such a nice guy and hate to say bad things about him but Jesus his games were horrendous... Poor macro, supply block, fly a flock of overlords to opponent's side so they can kill them even faster. He stood no chance vs Koreans but I was hoping for a better showing. Well, this only makes Impact looks worse. How he can lose to this twice is beyond me.
Oh well, all expected players move on. Feel bad for Trap. He is a good player.
When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...)
We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes)
I mean, Mvp's Jan 2011 run was an utter destruction of everyone in Code S. But Nestea, IIRC.
I am talking about Open Seasons: FruitDealer, NesTea, MC. Iirc Mvp under performed in these events compared to what he was meant to become. In the first three seasons respectively the mvp terran (haha) was Rainbow, then MarineKing and Rain, not mvp
On July 20 2017 02:54 Vutalisk wrote: Jake seems like such a nice guy and hate to say bad things about him but Jesus his games were horrendous... Poor macro, supply block, fly a flock of overlords to opponent's side so they can kill them even faster. He stood no chance vs Koreans but I was hoping for a better showing. Well, this only makes Impact looks worse. How he can lose to this twice is beyond me.
Oh well, all expected players move on. Feel bad for Trap. He is a good player.
When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...)
We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes)
I agree with you and all. But be real here, NoRgret's style is why I never root for him while I very much enjoy Elazer, Scarlett, TIME and Major's performances at GSL. They played solid games with great macro/micro skills and mixed some cheese here and there. They (minus Major) didn't get out but they showed the skills which are on pair with Koreans. Just need to polish a bit better. Cheesy play can get you so far until the point it makes you like you didn't know how to play the game properly. What to improve in cheesy games? Cheese better? Be more cheesy? I'm sorry but no thank you.
On July 20 2017 02:54 Vutalisk wrote: Jake seems like such a nice guy and hate to say bad things about him but Jesus his games were horrendous... Poor macro, supply block, fly a flock of overlords to opponent's side so they can kill them even faster. He stood no chance vs Koreans but I was hoping for a better showing. Well, this only makes Impact looks worse. How he can lose to this twice is beyond me.
Oh well, all expected players move on. Feel bad for Trap. He is a good player.
When you compete in such a tournament for the first time, you'll probably perform far worse than your actual abilities. That's why most foreign pros will need to participate in others GSL before we can accurately rate them against KR players (for example it took a lot of time for Mvp to become the GOAT, Bomber was a ladder hero but qualified to code S very very late, ByuN showed potential but it took him a lot of time, etc...)
We should encourage foreign pros to participate again and not try to shame them of their performance / praise KR too much imo (not everybody does it but there is clearly a double standard sometimes)
I agree with you and all. But be real here, NoRgret's style is why I never root for him while I very much enjoy Elazer, Scarlett, TIME and Major's performances at GSL. They played solid games with great macro/micro skills and mixed some cheese here and there. They (minus Major) didn't get out but they showed the skills which are on pair with Koreans. Just need to polish a bit better. Cheesy play can get you so far until the point it makes you like you didn't know how to play the game properly. What to improve in cheesy games? Cheese better? Be more cheesy? I'm sorry but no thank you.
There is a difference between rooting for someone, and promoting a toxic mindset. If the guy that posted is genuine about being a fan of NoRegret, he should be careful with what he says publicly / try to create a virtuous circle of kindness instead of a vicious / toxic one imho.
About NoRegret style being legitimate to cheer for, that's not the point so I don't know what to say about it?
EPT
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