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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 19 2017 17:01 GMT
#761
On June 20 2017 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Go terran, go kelazhur. Sorry Neeb but you still have GSL

Kelazhur won't try to qualify for season 3?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 19 2017 17:04 GMT
#762
On June 20 2017 02:01 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Go terran, go kelazhur. Sorry Neeb but you still have GSL

Kelazhur won't try to qualify for season 3?

Nah he probably will try, at least i would guess so.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
temporary1
Profile Joined February 2015
69 Posts
June 19 2017 17:05 GMT
#763
On June 20 2017 02:00 raff100 wrote:
Put Stas,Classic and herO in this tournament and Protoss becomes OP


If you put, say, top3 of all races to this tournament, what happens? Showtime, for one, is arguably world class player, and he didn't go too far.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 19 2017 17:07 GMT
#764
On June 20 2017 02:05 temporary1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 02:00 raff100 wrote:
Put Stas,Classic and herO in this tournament and Protoss becomes OP


If you put, say, top3 of all races to this tournament, what happens? Showtime, for one, is arguably world class player, and he didn't go too far.

INnoVation wins if he doesn't have to play TvT. Duh,
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 19 2017 17:07 GMT
#765
On June 20 2017 02:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 02:01 Boggyb wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Go terran, go kelazhur. Sorry Neeb but you still have GSL

Kelazhur won't try to qualify for season 3?

Nah he probably will try, at least i would guess so.

Hopefully he gets a group on the level of Scarlett's or Special's from season 2 qualifier while they get a group on the level he did.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 17:08 GMT
#766
On June 20 2017 02:00 Charoisaur wrote:
Serral and Neeb are unmatched in the foreign scene atm. this will be a 3-0


In terms of results yes but we only have a couple tournament's to compare which sucks. I think scarlett/elazer/kela/major/nerchio could beat serral or neeb without it being a massive surprise.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 17:10 GMT
#767
On June 20 2017 02:05 temporary1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 02:00 raff100 wrote:
Put Stas,Classic and herO in this tournament and Protoss becomes OP


If you put, say, top3 of all races to this tournament, what happens? Showtime, for one, is arguably world class player, and he didn't go too far.


Showtime didn't play like a world class player though. It's like putting zest in this cup and when he fails still say he's world class.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
June 19 2017 17:10 GMT
#768
On June 20 2017 02:05 temporary1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 02:00 raff100 wrote:
Put Stas,Classic and herO in this tournament and Protoss becomes OP


If you put, say, top3 of all races to this tournament, what happens? Showtime, for one, is arguably world class player, and he didn't go too far.


If they don't run into each other in the group stage,all the KR reach the final rounds of the tournament and the most prepared of them take it all.We've seen what happened during WESG when 2 top koreans met the best foreigners...
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 19 2017 17:11 GMT
#769
"Oh these lock-ons! Does get away... quite easily actually."
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 17:12 GMT
#770
On June 20 2017 02:10 raff100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 02:05 temporary1 wrote:
On June 20 2017 02:00 raff100 wrote:
Put Stas,Classic and herO in this tournament and Protoss becomes OP


If you put, say, top3 of all races to this tournament, what happens? Showtime, for one, is arguably world class player, and he didn't go too far.


If they don't run into each other in the group stage,all the KR reach the final rounds of the tournament and the most prepared of them take it all.We've seen what happened during WESG when 2 top koreans met the best foreigners...


And iirc people attributed maru and ty's wesg run being due to terran being op lol
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 19 2017 17:12 GMT
#771
I assume that build does a lot more in practice for Kelazhur because that looked awful.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
June 19 2017 17:12 GMT
#772
Kelazhur was like "oh, this is the push from major neeb trashed out, lemme try it again"
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 19 2017 17:13 GMT
#773
so this is why you don't drop vs adept phoenix
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 17:14 GMT
#774
That brings up a question actually. Has anyone ever won a tournament without the balance of their race being questioned?

(if you browse the youtube comments of any sc2 game people will be complaining X only won due to balance, regardless of who won. So I guess not)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 17:14:51
June 19 2017 17:14 GMT
#775
On June 20 2017 02:14 Fango wrote:
That brings up a question actually. Has anyone ever won a tournament without the balance of their race being questioned?

(if you browse the youtube comments of any sc2 game people will be complaining X only won due to balance, regardless of who won. So I guess not)

Savior, Fruitdealer, Mvp, Life
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 19 2017 17:15 GMT
#776
On June 20 2017 02:14 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 02:14 Fango wrote:
That brings up a question actually. Has anyone ever won a tournament without the balance of their race being questioned?

(if you browse the youtube comments of any sc2 game people will be complaining X only won due to balance, regardless of who won. So I guess not)

Savior, Fruitdealer, Mvp, Life

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raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
June 19 2017 17:15 GMT
#777
On June 20 2017 02:14 Fango wrote:
That brings up a question actually. Has anyone ever won a tournament without the balance of their race being questioned?

(if you browse the youtube comments of any sc2 game people will be complaining X only won due to balance, regardless of who won. So I guess not)

It happens to BW too,so I think it's just the nature of RTS players
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33705 Posts
June 19 2017 17:16 GMT
#778
I feel like Neeb epitomizes the kind of hard work and self-flagellating devotion to getting better than the foreign community clamored for during 2012~2015. U guys should appreciate him more ;o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
June 19 2017 17:16 GMT
#779
mines, Neebs' bane

build mines sambaterran
I Protoss winner, could it be?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 19 2017 17:16 GMT
#780
On June 20 2017 02:14 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 02:14 Fango wrote:
That brings up a question actually. Has anyone ever won a tournament without the balance of their race being questioned?

(if you browse the youtube comments of any sc2 game people will be complaining X only won due to balance, regardless of who won. So I guess not)

Savior, Fruitdealer, Mvp, Life


One could almost deduce that the ability to win when your race is underpowered makes you liable to matchfix
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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