EPTOn June 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote:
This game was over when storm got researched.
This game was over when storm got researched.
Typical PvZ did not change much from HotS in spite of unit comp, huh.
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Typical PvZ did not change much from HotS in spite of unit comp, huh. | ||
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VHbb
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On JuNe 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote: This game was over when Storm got researched. let's be honest, it was over when PtitDrogo selected Protoss  | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Pretty far when looking at the big picture. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On June 18 2017 20:39 VHbb wrote: let's be honest, it was over when PtitDrogo selected Protoss But the maps. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
of course  at least he tried | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On June 18 2017 20:39 [PkF] Wire wrote: as usual what happened early game ? When I came back P was already ahead in supply and on 4 bases for no good reason 30 lings tried to cancel 3rd nex and didn't trade well vs adept/oracle, oracle had earlier killed off 3 of Nerchio's queens | ||
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Ej_
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On June 18 2017 20:39 lolfail9001 wrote: Typical PvZ did not change much from HotS in spite of unit comp, huh. ? HotS was collossus turtle until 2015 then it was mass blinksalker. PvZ today is nothing like that. banelings as well as fast storm were never played in HotS | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On June 18 2017 20:41 Ej_ wrote: but hey Blood Boil is one of the maps, so the comeback is possible don't really see Nerchio losing that series. Abyssal was one of the favorable maps for P. | ||
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yht9657
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On June 18 2017 20:39 lolfail9001 wrote: Typical PvZ did not change much from HotS in spite of unit comp, huh. not interested in balance whining, but i have always felt that templar anchor the protoss tech tree way too much. IMO it's not that storms themselves are "OP" but that storms + anything else tends to be very very strong when you get there even if you go back to the swarm host era of hots, what a lot of people failed to understand was that one of the big reasons swarm hosts dominated protoss was because they were the only way to counter templar on lair tech due to the way locusts zoned them out storm is a really cool tech and so are templar, i would hate to ever see them nerfed out of viability, but they just create so much synergy and defensive potential against low tech armies | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On June 18 2017 20:43 yht9657 wrote: If Drogo could take this map from a Zerg in a macro game then he is LITERAL GOD. What if he wins, but loses the next 3 games? | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On June 18 2017 20:44 brickrd wrote: not interested in balance whining, but i have always felt that templar anchor the protoss tech tree way too much. IMO it's not that storms themselves are "OP" but that storms + anything else tends to be very very strong when you get there even if you go back to the swarm host era of hots, what a lot of people failed to understand was that one of the big reasons swarm hosts dominated protoss was because they were the only way to counter templar on lair tech due to the way locusts zoned them out storm is a really cool tech and so are templar, i would hate to ever see them nerfed out of viability, but they just create so much synergy and defensive potential against low tech armies they are fine in combination with ground units. in combination with air units they are too strong imo. Boils down to the problem that air armies are to strong in sc2. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On June 18 2017 20:42 Charoisaur wrote: ? HotS was collossus turtle until 2015 then it was mass blinksalker. PvZ today is nothing like that. banelings as well as fast storm were never played in HotS he was saying unit comp is different but storm always seemed to put the nail in the coffin for zerg, which is true - when hots pvz was colossus meta the finishing blow was not a colossus allin, it was getting to storm and keeping enough army alive so you can crush roach hydra viper. blink stalker sentry was a meta that involved protoss often taking a big advantage or trying to win before templar tech, but when hydra ling became the popular counter, yes, storm was still the final tech used to finish wins against zerg when games went longer into macro | ||
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Elentos
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On June 18 2017 20:44 Charoisaur wrote: blood boil is a horrible map It's one of the worst I remember on ladder | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
The memes will be strong. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
I haven't even played a single game on it, vetoed it immediately after I saw the screenshots of it | ||
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yht9657
1810 Posts
Napoleon lost the war but Austerlitz and Jena were remembered forever | ||
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