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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 18 2017 11:39 GMT
#101
On June 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote:
This game was over when storm got researched.

Typical PvZ did not change much from HotS in spite of unit comp, huh.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 11:40:48
June 18 2017 11:39 GMT
#102
On JuNe 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote:
This game was over when Storm got researched.


let's be honest, it was over when PtitDrogo selected Protoss













My life for Aiur !
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 18 2017 11:40 GMT
#103
On June 18 2017 20:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
maybe Nerchio can neural the mothership and kill everything while cloaked

hey it was not too far from working

Pretty far when looking at the big picture.
why even
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
June 18 2017 11:40 GMT
#104
most effective neurals I've seen in a long time. still lost though
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 18 2017 11:40 GMT
#105
On June 18 2017 20:39 VHbb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote:
This game was over when storm got researched.


let's be honest, it was over when PtitDrogo selected Protoss

But the maps.
why even
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
June 18 2017 11:41 GMT
#106
On June 18 2017 20:40 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 18 2017 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
maybe Nerchio can neural the mothership and kill everything while cloaked

hey it was not too far from working

Pretty far when looking at the big picture.

of course
at least he tried
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 18 2017 11:41 GMT
#107
On June 18 2017 20:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote:
This game was over when storm got researched.

as usual
what happened early game ? When I came back P was already ahead in supply and on 4 bases for no good reason

30 lings tried to cancel 3rd nex and didn't trade well vs adept/oracle, oracle had earlier killed off 3 of Nerchio's queens
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 18 2017 11:41 GMT
#108
but hey Blood Boil is one of the maps, so the comeback is possible
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 11:42:52
June 18 2017 11:42 GMT
#109
On June 18 2017 20:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote:
This game was over when storm got researched.

Typical PvZ did not change much from HotS in spite of unit comp, huh.

?

HotS was collossus turtle until 2015 then it was mass blinksalker.
PvZ today is nothing like that.

banelings as well as fast storm were never played in HotS
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 11:42:56
June 18 2017 11:42 GMT
#110
On June 18 2017 20:41 Ej_ wrote:
but hey Blood Boil is one of the maps, so the comeback is possible

don't really see Nerchio losing that series. Abyssal was one of the favorable maps for P.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
June 18 2017 11:43 GMT
#111
If Drogo could take this map from a Zerg in a macro game then he is LITERAL GOD.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 18 2017 11:44 GMT
#112
On June 18 2017 20:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote:
This game was over when storm got researched.

Typical PvZ did not change much from HotS in spite of unit comp, huh.

not interested in balance whining, but i have always felt that templar anchor the protoss tech tree way too much. IMO it's not that storms themselves are "OP" but that storms + anything else tends to be very very strong when you get there

even if you go back to the swarm host era of hots, what a lot of people failed to understand was that one of the big reasons swarm hosts dominated protoss was because they were the only way to counter templar on lair tech due to the way locusts zoned them out

storm is a really cool tech and so are templar, i would hate to ever see them nerfed out of viability, but they just create so much synergy and defensive potential against low tech armies
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
June 18 2017 11:44 GMT
#113
blood boil is a horrible map
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 18 2017 11:44 GMT
#114
On June 18 2017 20:43 yht9657 wrote:
If Drogo could take this map from a Zerg in a macro game then he is LITERAL GOD.

What if he wins, but loses the next 3 games?
why even
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
June 18 2017 11:45 GMT
#115
On June 18 2017 20:44 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
On June 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote:
This game was over when storm got researched.

Typical PvZ did not change much from HotS in spite of unit comp, huh.

not interested in balance whining, but i have always felt that templar anchor the protoss tech tree way too much. IMO it's not that storms themselves are "OP" but that storms + anything else tends to be very very strong when you get there

even if you go back to the swarm host era of hots, what a lot of people failed to understand was that one of the big reasons swarm hosts dominated protoss was because they were the only way to counter templar on lair tech due to the way locusts zoned them out

storm is a really cool tech and so are templar, i would hate to ever see them nerfed out of viability, but they just create so much synergy and defensive potential against low tech armies

they are fine in combination with ground units. in combination with air units they are too strong imo. Boils down to the problem that air armies are to strong in sc2.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 11:46:43
June 18 2017 11:46 GMT
#116
On June 18 2017 20:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
On June 18 2017 20:39 Ej_ wrote:
This game was over when storm got researched.

Typical PvZ did not change much from HotS in spite of unit comp, huh.

?

HotS was collossus turtle until 2015 then it was mass blinksalker.
PvZ today is nothing like that.

banelings as well as fast storm were never played in HotS

he was saying unit comp is different but storm always seemed to put the nail in the coffin for zerg, which is true - when hots pvz was colossus meta the finishing blow was not a colossus allin, it was getting to storm and keeping enough army alive so you can crush roach hydra viper. blink stalker sentry was a meta that involved protoss often taking a big advantage or trying to win before templar tech, but when hydra ling became the popular counter, yes, storm was still the final tech used to finish wins against zerg when games went longer into macro
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
June 18 2017 11:46 GMT
#117
On June 18 2017 20:44 Charoisaur wrote:
blood boil is a horrible map

It's one of the worst I remember on ladder
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 18 2017 11:46 GMT
#118
On June 18 2017 20:44 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:43 yht9657 wrote:
If Drogo could take this map from a Zerg in a macro game then he is LITERAL GOD.

What if he wins, but loses the next 3 games?

The memes will be strong.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16035 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 11:48:05
June 18 2017 11:47 GMT
#119
On June 18 2017 20:46 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:44 Charoisaur wrote:
blood boil is a horrible map

It's one of the worst I remember on ladder

I haven't even played a single game on it, vetoed it immediately after I saw the screenshots of it
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 11:48:38
June 18 2017 11:48 GMT
#120
On June 18 2017 20:44 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:43 yht9657 wrote:
If Drogo could take this map from a Zerg in a macro game then he is LITERAL GOD.

What if he wins, but loses the next 3 games?

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