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On June 19 2017 04:25 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:On June 19 2017 04:19 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:On June 19 2017 04:09 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier. Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years. Thanks guys  . TL community slowly turned into this unfortunately  that's why I mostly stopped reading Honest question though: Do you think air vs air (broodlord/corruptor vs viking) and spellcaster vs spellcaster (viper vs raven) is interesting/fun unit interactions? Personally i think it kinda makes mech games less enjoyable Most of the air fights in SC2 are not the most interesting part of the game and most progamers agree that Ravens in current state are silly with seeker missile that you can't respond to I thought the conventional wisdom was that the mass Raven transition requires too much gas and too much time to hit critical mass? Uhm, were you in stasis since like 2013? Mass Raven transition is the classic mech transition that has always been a major PITA of every zerg player.
From the mouth of Nerchio:
On June 19 2017 04:23 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:On June 19 2017 04:19 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:On June 19 2017 04:09 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier. Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years. Thanks guys . TL community slowly turned into this unfortunately that's why I mostly stopped reading Honest question though: Do you think air vs air (broodlord/corruptor vs viking) and spellcaster vs spellcaster (viper vs raven) is interesting/fun unit interactions? Personally i think it kinda makes mech games less enjoyable Most of the air fights in SC2 are not the most interesting part of the game and most progamers agree that Ravens in current state are silly with seeker missile that you can't respond to I thought the conventional wisdom was that the mass Raven transition requires too much gas and too much time to hit critical mass? Well it's true that we see Raven end game very rarely and that is mostly the reason that we don't hear many complaints about this unit that often.
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On June 19 2017 04:24 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 04:23 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Can't wait to hear home sofa experts again saying how lame bly was and special just made a major fuckup there. These games are so bad today, right? yeah and then the fist bump again. So arrogant, he should be ashamed after that win /s
So many are fist pump complaining here. /s
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United States33714 Posts
The law of schedule balance is in play -_-
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Players i wanted to advance: stephano, scarlett, snute, and major. This is close to the worst possible ro16 :D at least nerchio got eliminated that's a plus
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On June 19 2017 04:26 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 04:25 lolfail9001 wrote:On June 19 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:On June 19 2017 04:19 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:On June 19 2017 04:09 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier. Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years. Thanks guys . TL community slowly turned into this unfortunately that's why I mostly stopped reading Honest question though: Do you think air vs air (broodlord/corruptor vs viking) and spellcaster vs spellcaster (viper vs raven) is interesting/fun unit interactions? Personally i think it kinda makes mech games less enjoyable Most of the air fights in SC2 are not the most interesting part of the game and most progamers agree that Ravens in current state are silly with seeker missile that you can't respond to I thought the conventional wisdom was that the mass Raven transition requires too much gas and too much time to hit critical mass? Uhm, were you in stasis since like 2013? Mass Raven transition is the classic mech transition that has always been a major PITA of every zerg player. Well, you were the one in stasis I think as nobody ever gets to mass raven anymore and hence pvsnp's question.
I was in the stasis during 2016, true. So it just so happens that last time i cared about SC2 every TvZ ended up with zerg dying to mass ravens if they did not win the game in 20 minutes. Now i come back and well, what do I see, ravens that are even stronger than they were in HotS.
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On June 19 2017 04:26 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 04:25 lolfail9001 wrote:On June 19 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:On June 19 2017 04:19 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:On June 19 2017 04:09 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier. Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years. Thanks guys . TL community slowly turned into this unfortunately that's why I mostly stopped reading Honest question though: Do you think air vs air (broodlord/corruptor vs viking) and spellcaster vs spellcaster (viper vs raven) is interesting/fun unit interactions? Personally i think it kinda makes mech games less enjoyable Most of the air fights in SC2 are not the most interesting part of the game and most progamers agree that Ravens in current state are silly with seeker missile that you can't respond to I thought the conventional wisdom was that the mass Raven transition requires too much gas and too much time to hit critical mass? Uhm, were you in stasis since like 2013? Mass Raven transition is the classic mech transition that has always been a major PITA of every zerg player. Well, you were the one in stasis I think as nobody ever gets to mass raven anymore and hence pvsnp's question.
Yeah exactly, we aren't playing HotS anymore. This isn't 2015.
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On June 19 2017 04:25 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 04:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On June 19 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:On June 19 2017 04:19 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:On June 19 2017 04:09 Nerchio wrote:On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier. Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years. Thanks guys . TL community slowly turned into this unfortunately that's why I mostly stopped reading Honest question though: Do you think air vs air (broodlord/corruptor vs viking) and spellcaster vs spellcaster (viper vs raven) is interesting/fun unit interactions? Personally i think it kinda makes mech games less enjoyable Most of the air fights in SC2 are not the most interesting part of the game and most progamers agree that Ravens in current state are silly with seeker missile that you can't respond to I thought the conventional wisdom was that the mass Raven transition requires too much gas and too much time to hit critical mass? That doesn't make it any less silly even if it were so. Silly sure, but if it's so impractical that nobody can get there, how silly a never-used build happens to be is a moot point. Tree falls in the forest and whatnot.
It's still a risk factor though. If a meta change caused the transition to become slightly easier it could easily become oppressive.
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Canada8991 Posts
On June 19 2017 04:24 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 04:23 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Can't wait to hear home sofa experts again saying how lame bly was and special just made a major fuckup there. These games are so bad today, right? yeah and then the fist bump again. So arrogant, he should be ashamed after that win /s
Oh come on now
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Bly has got balls you have to give that to him.
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France13023 Posts
Is Nerchio slumping hard?
How did he lose against both Semper and Drogo?
I missed something not being able to watch the first two days .
Glad that Drogo goes through tho, baguette power!
Poor Stephano tho, but Serral is like top 1 EU atm
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On June 19 2017 04:27 Fango wrote:
Players i wanted to advance: stephano, scarlett, snute, and major. This is close to the worst possible ro16 :D at least nerchio got eliminated that's a plus
All of us, the members of Nerchio's antifanclub, must be satisfied today. Even when I wanted him to lose tomorrow against Snute.
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On June 19 2017 04:28 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 04:24 Charoisaur wrote:On June 19 2017 04:23 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Can't wait to hear home sofa experts again saying how lame bly was and special just made a major fuckup there. These games are so bad today, right? yeah and then the fist bump again. So arrogant, he should be ashamed after that win /s Oh come on now
Do you know what /s means?
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