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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
June 18 2017 19:23 GMT
#821
On June 19 2017 04:15 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 04:14 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:13 Ansibled wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:
Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier.

Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years.

Thanks guys .

I don't understand why this makes Bly look stupid.

Yeah, if anything winning when you're clearly the worse player is all the more reason to celebrate

clearly the worse player after winning in a 40 minute game

Did you watch the start of the game? He was insanely ahead from like 10 minutes in and couldn't close it for half an hour
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 18 2017 19:23 GMT
#822
Not a fan of Bly at all, but I'd kinda like to see his reaction to get into the quarterfinals.
why even
Kaewins
Profile Joined April 2013
Bulgaria138 Posts
June 18 2017 19:23 GMT
#823
On June 19 2017 04:17 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 04:16 Kaewins wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:
Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier.

Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years.

Thanks guys .


Bly has triple the army supply but keeps turtling vs a single base terran. So how should we comment on this "epic" game. He's nervous? Dude, he's a veteran player.

Did you consider that Starcraft might not be the game for you and you should try something easier


I quite like Starcraft and I also want Bly to win, I think he's a really talented player, but he respected Major way too much in that game.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 18 2017 19:23 GMT
#824
Special needs to train in NA to learn all the cheeses, not in Korea.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
June 18 2017 19:23 GMT
#825
On June 19 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 04:19 Nerchio wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:09 Nerchio wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:
Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier.

Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years.

Thanks guys .

TL community slowly turned into this unfortunately that's why I mostly stopped reading

Honest question though: Do you think air vs air (broodlord/corruptor vs viking) and spellcaster vs spellcaster (viper vs raven) is interesting/fun unit interactions? Personally i think it kinda makes mech games less enjoyable

Most of the air fights in SC2 are not the most interesting part of the game and most progamers agree that Ravens in current state are silly with seeker missile that you can't respond to

I thought the conventional wisdom was that the mass Raven transition requires too much gas and too much time to hit critical mass?

Well it's true that we see Raven end game very rarely and that is mostly the reason that we don't hear many complaints about this unit that often.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 18 2017 19:23 GMT
#826
Lol missed g4 because reading TL
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 18 2017 19:24 GMT
#827
All the people complaining about Bly probably complain about faceless Koreans too they just love complaining. This obviously means a lot to Bly and he is showing some emotion get over yourselves if you think you are better go and compete.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 18 2017 19:24 GMT
#828
On June 19 2017 04:23 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Can't wait to hear home sofa experts again saying how lame bly was and special just made a major fuckup there. These games are so bad today, right?

Both Bly and Special messed up there at some point, frankly.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 18 2017 19:24 GMT
#829
On June 19 2017 04:22 Charoisaur wrote:
first time I've seen this build succeed

I think it was 4th or 5th. I've been keeping count and people who won with this in tournaments are:
1) soO vs TY
2) Scarlett vs aLive
3) someone I forgot vs someone I forgot
4) Bly vs MajOr
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Meeii
Profile Joined July 2015
155 Posts
June 18 2017 19:24 GMT
#830
On June 19 2017 04:22 Charoisaur wrote:
first time I've seen this build succeed


Seen soO win with it a lot of times.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
June 18 2017 19:24 GMT
#831
On June 19 2017 04:23 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Can't wait to hear home sofa experts again saying how lame bly was and special just made a major fuckup there. These games are so bad today, right?


Some people here always finds a way/reason to complain
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16090 Posts
June 18 2017 19:24 GMT
#832
On June 19 2017 04:23 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Can't wait to hear home sofa experts again saying how lame bly was and special just made a major fuckup there. These games are so bad today, right?

yeah and then the fist bump again. So arrogant, he should be ashamed after that win /s
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 18 2017 19:25 GMT
#833
On June 19 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 04:19 Nerchio wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:09 Nerchio wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:
Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier.

Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years.

Thanks guys .

TL community slowly turned into this unfortunately that's why I mostly stopped reading

Honest question though: Do you think air vs air (broodlord/corruptor vs viking) and spellcaster vs spellcaster (viper vs raven) is interesting/fun unit interactions? Personally i think it kinda makes mech games less enjoyable

Most of the air fights in SC2 are not the most interesting part of the game and most progamers agree that Ravens in current state are silly with seeker missile that you can't respond to

I thought the conventional wisdom was that the mass Raven transition requires too much gas and too much time to hit critical mass?

Uhm, were you in stasis since like 2013? Mass Raven transition is the classic mech transition that has always been a major PITA of every zerg player.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
June 18 2017 19:25 GMT
#834
On June 19 2017 04:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:19 Nerchio wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:09 Nerchio wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:
Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier.

Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years.

Thanks guys .

TL community slowly turned into this unfortunately that's why I mostly stopped reading

Honest question though: Do you think air vs air (broodlord/corruptor vs viking) and spellcaster vs spellcaster (viper vs raven) is interesting/fun unit interactions? Personally i think it kinda makes mech games less enjoyable

Most of the air fights in SC2 are not the most interesting part of the game and most progamers agree that Ravens in current state are silly with seeker missile that you can't respond to

I thought the conventional wisdom was that the mass Raven transition requires too much gas and too much time to hit critical mass?


That doesn't make it any less silly even if it were so.

Silly sure, but if it's so impractical that nobody can get there, how silly a never-used build happens to be is a moot point.
Tree falls in the forest and whatnot.
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Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
June 18 2017 19:25 GMT
#835
How does it make the game terrible and "bad" when players make mistakes? If every game was perfect, every game would play out exactly the same.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 18 2017 19:25 GMT
#836
What does Bly have left in his bag of cheese?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 18 2017 19:26 GMT
#837
Go Bly! I cannot imagine, he could beat Major. But he has a small chance. Go Bly!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
June 18 2017 19:26 GMT
#838
On June 19 2017 04:24 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 04:22 Charoisaur wrote:
first time I've seen this build succeed

I think it was 4th or 5th. I've been keeping count and people who won with this in tournaments are:
1) soO vs TY
2) Scarlett vs aLive
3) someone I forgot vs someone I forgot
4) Bly vs MajOr

That's more than I expected
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 18 2017 19:26 GMT
#839
On June 19 2017 04:25 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:19 Nerchio wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:09 Nerchio wrote:
On June 19 2017 04:07 Musicus wrote:
Super glad that we have tons of experts in this thread to tell us how bad that game was, how bad mech is and how Bly should've won way earlier.

Really makes Bly look stupid for fist bumping after a winning a 45 minute game in a super important tournament in the game that has been Bly's life for years.

Thanks guys .

TL community slowly turned into this unfortunately that's why I mostly stopped reading

Honest question though: Do you think air vs air (broodlord/corruptor vs viking) and spellcaster vs spellcaster (viper vs raven) is interesting/fun unit interactions? Personally i think it kinda makes mech games less enjoyable

Most of the air fights in SC2 are not the most interesting part of the game and most progamers agree that Ravens in current state are silly with seeker missile that you can't respond to

I thought the conventional wisdom was that the mass Raven transition requires too much gas and too much time to hit critical mass?

Uhm, were you in stasis since like 2013? Mass Raven transition is the classic mech transition that has always been a major PITA of every zerg player.

Well, you were the one in stasis I think as nobody ever gets to mass raven anymore and hence pvsnp's question.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4120 Posts
June 18 2017 19:26 GMT
#840
dont forget Scarlett calling major to win the whole thing, which probably is why Bly is so emotional after each map he takes. He clearly is the underdog and fighting an uphill battle here.
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