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[SSL 2017] Challenger Stage 2 - Week 5

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 03 2017 10:09 GMT
#1

SSL 2017


Saturday, Jun 03 1:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2017_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_1/Challenge

Streams



uk ESportsTV


Format

  • Two round-robin groups of five players each.
  • All matches best-of-three.
  • Top three players from each group advance to Challenge: Second Stage.
  • Bottom two players are eliminated from SSL and must re-qualify.
  • Prize money:
  • Each series awards ₩300,000 (≈$265)
  • ₩200,000 (≈$175) for the winner, ₩100,000 (≈$90) for the loser.

Matches


Week 4
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(P)Classic vs (T)Ryung
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(T)ByuN vs (P)Dear
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(P)herO vs (T)TY



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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 03 2017 10:09 GMT
#2
Poll: Classic vs Ryung

Classic Wins (6)
 
86%

Ryung Wins (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Classic vs Ryung

(Vote): Classic Wins
(Vote): Ryung Wins


Poll: Byun vs Dear

Byun Wins (4)
 
57%

Dear Wins (3)
 
43%

7 total votes

Your vote: Byun vs Dear

(Vote): Byun Wins
(Vote): Dear Wins


Poll: herO vs TY

herO Wins (5)
 
50%

TY Wins (5)
 
50%

10 total votes

Your vote: herO vs TY

(Vote): herO Wins
(Vote): TY Wins

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RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 12:02:26
June 03 2017 12:02 GMT
#3
All SSL streams can be found at
http://e-sportstv.net/SSL_LIVE
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 03 2017 12:19 GMT
#4
On June 03 2017 21:02 rapidtransit247 wrote:
All SSL streams can be found at
http://e-sportstv.net/SSL_LIVE

Amazing!!!
Rapid for the King!
Had this link been on the top of the page since the beginning of SSL broadcasts, I am sure, much more people would be watching!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
June 03 2017 12:57 GMT
#5
if only classic hadnt topped his all-terran gsl group i would have said ryung could take the protoss on no problem
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12374 Posts
June 03 2017 13:06 GMT
#6
Casters rooting for less starcraft... sigh =)
No will to live, no wish to die
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 13:07 GMT
#7
On June 03 2017 22:06 Nebuchad wrote:
Casters rooting for less starcraft... sigh =)

Understandable though, starting at 10 P.M. does that
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 13:07 GMT
#8
On June 03 2017 22:06 Nebuchad wrote:
Casters rooting for less starcraft... sigh =)

Ikr? No passion at 10pm?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MCMXVI
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1193 Posts
June 03 2017 13:07 GMT
#9
Link to stream?
In capitalist America, bank robs YOU!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 13:11 GMT
#10
On June 03 2017 22:07 MCMXVI wrote:
Link to stream?

IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12374 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 13:12:36
June 03 2017 13:11 GMT
#11
On June 03 2017 22:07 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 22:06 Nebuchad wrote:
Casters rooting for less starcraft... sigh =)

Ikr? No passion at 10pm?


I woke up 20 hours ago, I'm here. Fight me (don't fight me)
No will to live, no wish to die
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
June 03 2017 13:12 GMT
#12
On June 03 2017 22:07 MCMXVI wrote:
Link to stream?

Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 13:16 GMT
#13
Ryung is at it again
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 03 2017 13:19 GMT
#14
On June 03 2017 21:02 rapidtransit247 wrote:
All SSL streams can be found at
http://e-sportstv.net/SSL_LIVE


Thanks!

(I was meta enough not to bother clicking the link in the OP anymore, bloody waste of APM )
gg no re thx
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 13:22:31
June 03 2017 13:22 GMT
#15
Ryang? What was that...

eng yt stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBxnLcMdqCg
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
June 03 2017 13:22 GMT
#16
ez for classic.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 13:22 GMT
#17
Best TvP i have seen in a starleague today
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 13:24 GMT
#18
Ryung is pretty done with this tournament
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
June 03 2017 13:24 GMT
#19
Wow ruthless... poor ryung
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 03 2017 13:26 GMT
#20
I'm sad there won't be mass reapers in SSL today. But on the bright side, there'll be adepts.
gg no re thx
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 13:27 GMT
#21
Because the garbage Pokémon from gen 5 is so much worse than the toxic waste Pokémon from gen 1
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 13:28 GMT
#22
On June 03 2017 22:27 Elentos wrote:
Because the garbage Pokémon from gen 5 is so much worse than the toxic waste Pokémon from gen 1

That garbage pokémon is far from the worst of Gen 5 anyway. Looking at you Gothitelle
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 13:30 GMT
#23
Why would you not lift that
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 13:30 GMT
#24
well this is pretty unjinxable
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 13:31 GMT
#25
Just as bad as GSL so far
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
June 03 2017 13:31 GMT
#26
On June 03 2017 22:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Best TvP i have seen in a starleague today


followed by second best TvP
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 13:32 GMT
#27
On June 03 2017 22:31 Durnuu wrote:
Just as bad as GSL so far

True. But really that speaks more against GSL. Because I expected this match to look like this.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 13:35 GMT
#28
Wait what he didn't see the stargate? Wow
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 13:44 GMT
#29
Wow Ryung wins a game
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 13:44 GMT
#30
Ryung still has a pulse after all
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 13:44 GMT
#31
Finally Ryung gets his act together. After such a bad start too.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 13:50:39
June 03 2017 13:50 GMT
#32
On June 03 2017 22:28 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 22:27 Elentos wrote:
Because the garbage Pokémon from gen 5 is so much worse than the toxic waste Pokémon from gen 1

That garbage pokémon is far from the worst of Gen 5 anyway. Looking at you Gothitelle

Hey to be fair Garbodor is both metaphorically and literally trash.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 13:51 GMT
#33
On June 03 2017 22:50 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 22:28 Durnuu wrote:
On June 03 2017 22:27 Elentos wrote:
Because the garbage Pokémon from gen 5 is so much worse than the toxic waste Pokémon from gen 1

That garbage pokémon is far from the worst of Gen 5 anyway. Looking at you Gothitelle

Hey to be fair Garbodor is both metaphorically and literally trash.

Gal Gadot?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 13:58 GMT
#34
Hahaha
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 13:58 GMT
#35
Classic focused all weapon systems on his own colossus
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 13:58 GMT
#36
On June 03 2017 22:58 Penev wrote:
Hahaha

What's so funny
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 13:59 GMT
#37
I like Brendan, because he properly uses singular and plurar of collossus.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 14:00:07
June 03 2017 13:59 GMT
#38
On June 03 2017 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 22:58 Penev wrote:
Hahaha

What's so funny

Classic shot his colossus with his tempests
On June 03 2017 22:59 Ej_ wrote:
I like Brendan, because he properly uses singular and plurar of collossus.

I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 14:00 GMT
#39
I don't want to say the M word, but...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 14:01 GMT
#40
On June 03 2017 22:59 Ej_ wrote:
I like Brendan, because he properly uses singular and plurar of collossus.

Apparently you don't like Valdes enough to use his nick
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:01 GMT
#41
On June 03 2017 23:00 Ej_ wrote:
I don't want to say the M word, but...

Michael Bay would sure have enjoyed this game
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 03 2017 14:03 GMT
#42
Great showmatch, would've loved to see a carrier or two though...
gg no re thx
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:05 GMT
#43
At least Ryung exits Challenge on a respectable performance
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 14:09:55
June 03 2017 14:08 GMT
#44
So, Classic finishes ahead of Dear and TY no matter what - right?

E: Answering my own question: with better map score AND internal score, he must.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 14:09 GMT
#45
There's no 2nd player like Desr in the entire world.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:09 GMT
#46
On June 03 2017 23:08 sneakyfox wrote:
So, Classic finishes ahead of Dear and TY no matter what - right?

Yeah
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 14:13:21
June 03 2017 14:13 GMT
#47
On June 03 2017 23:09 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:08 sneakyfox wrote:
So, Classic finishes ahead of Dear and TY no matter what - right?

Yeah


Does anyone actually know the tiebreaking procedure?

If TY finishes 12-11 and Buyn 11-10 (with ByuN winning internal match), who is first?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 14:16 GMT
#48
Dear should've gussed that ByuN is bottom right, the rax was placed above the watch tower.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
June 03 2017 14:20 GMT
#49
On June 03 2017 23:16 Ej_ wrote:
Dear should've gussed that ByuN is bottom right, the rax was placed above the watch tower.

How does the placement give it away?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 14:21 GMT
#50
wp Dear, not a single boner
I Protoss winner, could it be?
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
June 03 2017 14:21 GMT
#51
That was solid by Dear, liked his reactions to what Byun was doing. Two more!
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 14:21 GMT
#52
Man, that was really cool to see a fresh, new style from Dear. Loved how he combined those new, interesting units that shade on the ground with those fast flyers that shoot while moving. GG!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
June 03 2017 14:23 GMT
#53
On June 03 2017 23:21 sneakyfox wrote:
Man, that was really cool to see a fresh, new style from Dear. Loved how he combined those new, interesting units that shade on the ground with those fast flyers that shoot while moving. GG!

Then you must be amazed by how the current terrans are skillful, amassing totally newer-seen-before units and stimming them everywhere! cuureazzzy!
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 14:24 GMT
#54
Dear is a beast
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 14:24 GMT
#55
On June 03 2017 23:20 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:16 Ej_ wrote:
Dear should've gussed that ByuN is bottom right, the rax was placed above the watch tower.

How does the placement give it away?

2/3 probability Dear spawned top left or top right (ByuN was bottom right), you can't proxy exactly in the middle (watchtower) so you place it up top to most likely reduce rush distance by a second or so.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 14:25:48
June 03 2017 14:25 GMT
#56
On June 03 2017 23:20 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:16 Ej_ wrote:
Dear should've gussed that ByuN is bottom right, the rax was placed above the watch tower.

How does the placement give it away?

I guess the logic would be: you came from south east, you want your rax to be closer to enemy - thus building it a bit north-west from the watch tower makes the more sense? I dunno

Edit: Damn you Ej!
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 14:30 GMT
#57
derp derp derp
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
June 03 2017 14:30 GMT
#58
On June 03 2017 23:24 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:20 geokilla wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:16 Ej_ wrote:
Dear should've gussed that ByuN is bottom right, the rax was placed above the watch tower.

How does the placement give it away?

2/3 probability Dear spawned top left or top right (ByuN was bottom right), you can't proxy exactly in the middle (watchtower) so you place it up top to most likely reduce rush distance by a second or so.

Damn that's smart.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 14:31 GMT
#59
On June 03 2017 23:23 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:21 sneakyfox wrote:
Man, that was really cool to see a fresh, new style from Dear. Loved how he combined those new, interesting units that shade on the ground with those fast flyers that shoot while moving. GG!

Then you must be amazed by how the current terrans are skillful, amassing totally newer-seen-before units and stimming them everywhere! cuureazzzy!


Would definitely like to see more mech. But Bio and and phoenix-adept are not comparable.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:32 GMT
#60
Dear was so far ahead
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 14:32 GMT
#61
On June 03 2017 23:31 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:23 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:21 sneakyfox wrote:
Man, that was really cool to see a fresh, new style from Dear. Loved how he combined those new, interesting units that shade on the ground with those fast flyers that shoot while moving. GG!

Then you must be amazed by how the current terrans are skillful, amassing totally newer-seen-before units and stimming them everywhere! cuureazzzy!


Would definitely like to see more mech. But Bio and and phoenix-adept are not comparable.

Yeah, bio doesn't shoot fuckin' lazers
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 14:32 GMT
#62
On June 03 2017 23:30 sneakyfox wrote:
derp derp derp

oh dear..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:33 GMT
#63
These guys...
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
June 03 2017 14:33 GMT
#64
Was getting worried for Dear there, throwing away his advantage like that earlier.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 14:33 GMT
#65
suddenly boners everywhere from everyone
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
June 03 2017 14:33 GMT
#66
Throw and counter throw
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
June 03 2017 14:33 GMT
#67
On June 03 2017 23:31 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:23 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:21 sneakyfox wrote:
Man, that was really cool to see a fresh, new style from Dear. Loved how he combined those new, interesting units that shade on the ground with those fast flyers that shoot while moving. GG!

Then you must be amazed by how the current terrans are skillful, amassing totally newer-seen-before units and stimming them everywhere! cuureazzzy!


Would definitely like to see more mech. But Bio and and phoenix-adept are not comparable.

Typical: terran amasses tier 1 units for years. All is fine, pure skill
Protoss can do the same (but with higher tier of units actually) in LotV, suddenly everything is wrong.

Damn Dear derped there. Almost perfect early game into this.
Liberators are such well designed units.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 14:34 GMT
#68
On June 03 2017 23:30 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:24 Ej_ wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:20 geokilla wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:16 Ej_ wrote:
Dear should've gussed that ByuN is bottom right, the rax was placed above the watch tower.

How does the placement give it away?

2/3 probability Dear spawned top left or top right (ByuN was bottom right), you can't proxy exactly in the middle (watchtower) so you place it up top to most likely reduce rush distance by a second or so.

Damn that's smart.

It really doesn't matter though, especially because you also have to walk longer to start building it
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
June 03 2017 14:34 GMT
#69
On June 03 2017 23:33 Penev wrote:
suddenly boners everywhere from everyone

Why are we calling those "boners" now? :C
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:34 GMT
#70
On June 03 2017 23:33 Azzur wrote:
Throw and counter throw

Quid pro throw
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 14:35 GMT
#71
On June 03 2017 23:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:30 geokilla wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:24 Ej_ wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:20 geokilla wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:16 Ej_ wrote:
Dear should've gussed that ByuN is bottom right, the rax was placed above the watch tower.

How does the placement give it away?

2/3 probability Dear spawned top left or top right (ByuN was bottom right), you can't proxy exactly in the middle (watchtower) so you place it up top to most likely reduce rush distance by a second or so.

Damn that's smart.

It really doesn't matter though, especially because you also have to walk longer to start building it

Yeah but if you time your build right you don't have the minerals until the SCV arrives precisely where it's supposed to build the rax
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:35 GMT
#72
On June 03 2017 23:34 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:33 Penev wrote:
suddenly boners everywhere from everyone

Why are we calling those "boners" now? :C

Because Batman
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OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
June 03 2017 14:35 GMT
#73
I have no idea what happened. Outside of myriads of throws. And probably boners.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 14:36 GMT
#74
Lol Dear's distruptor control was so good in that final fight :D
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
June 03 2017 14:36 GMT
#75
sllloppyyy
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 14:37 GMT
#76
On June 03 2017 23:34 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:33 Penev wrote:
suddenly boners everywhere from everyone

Why are we calling those "boners" now? :C

proper english

boner: a stupid mistake
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:37 GMT
#77
It's One-in-a-row-boy Rapid
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 14:41 GMT
#78
On June 03 2017 23:37 Elentos wrote:
It's One-in-a-row-boy Rapid

Here comes dat One-in-a-row-boi!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 14:42 GMT
#79
I LB'd Dear, I'm such a god
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 14:42:56
June 03 2017 14:42 GMT
#80
wow get rekt byun

On June 03 2017 23:42 Durnuu wrote:
I LB'd Dear, I'm such a god


that is impressive, gratz
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 14:43 GMT
#81
On June 03 2017 23:42 Durnuu wrote:
I LB'd Dear, I'm such a god

I waited until herO vs ByuN results to bet this...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 14:43 GMT
#82
On June 03 2017 23:42 Penev wrote:
wow get rekt byun

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:42 Durnuu wrote:
I LB'd Dear, I'm such a god


that is impressive, gratz

Not that impressive once you realise I only did it because I don't like ByuN
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 14:44 GMT
#83
On June 03 2017 23:43 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:42 Penev wrote:
wow get rekt byun

On June 03 2017 23:42 Durnuu wrote:
I LB'd Dear, I'm such a god


that is impressive, gratz

Not that impressive once you realise I only did it because I don't like ByuN

the dark side IS stronger :o
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:45 GMT
#84
On June 03 2017 23:43 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:42 Penev wrote:
wow get rekt byun

On June 03 2017 23:42 Durnuu wrote:
I LB'd Dear, I'm such a god


that is impressive, gratz

Not that impressive once you realise I only did it because I don't like ByuN

I only bet ByuN because I don't like ByuN. That's how my Liquibets work this season apparently.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 14:48:01
June 03 2017 14:46 GMT
#85
On June 03 2017 23:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:43 Durnuu wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:42 Penev wrote:
wow get rekt byun

On June 03 2017 23:42 Durnuu wrote:
I LB'd Dear, I'm such a god


that is impressive, gratz

Not that impressive once you realise I only did it because I don't like ByuN

I only bet ByuN because I don't like ByuN. That's how my Liquibets work this season apparently.

same

either get a point or be happy about the result
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 14:46 GMT
#86
Guys pls now Dear will create boner after boner and still lose the series
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 14:49 GMT
#87
ByuN almost won the group and went straight to Premier. No he is facing elimination.

On the other hand, this really puts the pressure on TY. He will be eliminated with a loss.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 14:49 GMT
#88
Finally we get tiebreakers.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
June 03 2017 14:49 GMT
#89
I'm not sure why I chose ByuN > Dear...
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:50 GMT
#90
On June 03 2017 23:49 sneakyfox wrote:
ByuN almost won the group and went straight to Premier. No he is facing elimination.

On the other hand, this really puts the pressure on TY. He will be eliminated with a loss.

That's not new for TY though. Going into this week he needed to do as well as or better than Dear to not get eliminated.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 14:51 GMT
#91
On June 03 2017 23:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:49 sneakyfox wrote:
ByuN almost won the group and went straight to Premier. No he is facing elimination.

On the other hand, this really puts the pressure on TY. He will be eliminated with a loss.

That's not new for TY though. Going into this week he needed to do as well as or better than Dear to not get eliminated.


Well that also depended on Classic. Had he lost, it would have been different.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
June 03 2017 14:53 GMT
#92
What horrible games from ByuN
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 14:53 GMT
#93
On June 03 2017 23:51 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 23:50 Elentos wrote:
On June 03 2017 23:49 sneakyfox wrote:
ByuN almost won the group and went straight to Premier. No he is facing elimination.

On the other hand, this really puts the pressure on TY. He will be eliminated with a loss.

That's not new for TY though. Going into this week he needed to do as well as or better than Dear to not get eliminated.


Well that also depended on Classic. Had he lost, it would have been different.

The odds of Classic losing to Ryung were so low you might as well get ready in advance.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 03 2017 14:53 GMT
#94
Would be cool if 5 players end on 3-2. Tiebreakers ftw!
gg no re thx
slit
Profile Joined March 2013
Spain212 Posts
June 03 2017 14:54 GMT
#95
Seems that ByuN's playstyle struggles with early protoss aggression... oh well.

gogo TY!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 15:00 GMT
#96
Come on, TY! Defend that dirty shit.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 15:00 GMT
#97
Rapid likes the boners apparently
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 15:01 GMT
#98
Oh goddammit they are not going to give us the tiebreakers, are they?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 15:03 GMT
#99
TY just looks tired while herO looks like he's shouldering the pressure of the entire planet.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 15:03 GMT
#100
Hopefully TY doesn't fall asleep midway through the series
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 15:05:23
June 03 2017 15:04 GMT
#101
LOL. The tiebreaker is that there is no tiebreaker

That is to say: the only tiebreaker is the difference of maps won/maps lost.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 15:06 GMT
#102
There TY goes scouting again... it's a new day
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 15:07 GMT
#103
we don't even have follow esports flair

:/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 03 2017 15:08 GMT
#104
I bet they used to be LYGF.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 15:10 GMT
#105
This time TY is definitely playing like he is playing herO.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 15:14 GMT
#106
haha

hero mine
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 15:16 GMT
#107
Not going for the counter attack would have been better
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
June 03 2017 15:17 GMT
#108
Watching those games is bound to make you wonder whether tvp is winnable vs top P
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 15:18 GMT
#109
Sigh... Bad day for the terrans.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 15:19 GMT
#110
On June 04 2017 00:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Watching those games is bound to make you wonder whether tvp is winnable vs top P


Seems the most important thing for protoss is to not tech too much and just keep pressuring.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 15:19 GMT
#111
On June 04 2017 00:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Watching those games is bound to make you wonder whether tvp is winnable vs top P

I'm really more confused what the top Terrans are doing with their lives
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 15:22 GMT
#112
The first counter attack was atrocious. It cost TY a quarter of his bio to force fields, another chunk on the attack and most of his medivacs.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 15:24 GMT
#113
So, Elentos, you think TY is going to build a bunker?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 15:25 GMT
#114
I think SCVs would have the most. They probably get a few kills in every SCV pull
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 15:26 GMT
#115
On June 04 2017 00:25 Durnuu wrote:
I think SCVs would have the most. They probably get a few kills in every SCV pull

I'd say drones since drone drills versus lings happen in almost every ZvZ.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 03 2017 15:26 GMT
#116
125 - 94 = 31
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 15:28 GMT
#117
On June 04 2017 00:26 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 00:25 Durnuu wrote:
I think SCVs would have the most. They probably get a few kills in every SCV pull

I'd say drones since drone drills versus lings happen in almost every ZvZ.

Oh yeah, good point
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 15:34 GMT
#118
Now for the 3-0 comeback into tiebreakers plz
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
June 03 2017 15:34 GMT
#119
Harsh day for the Terrans.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 03 2017 15:34 GMT
#120
protoss will reign supreme 9-1 today it seems
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
June 03 2017 15:34 GMT
#121
On June 04 2017 00:34 Durnuu wrote:
Now for the 3-0 comeback into tiebreakers plz

Do we know if there will be tiebreakers anyway?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 15:35 GMT
#122
On June 04 2017 00:34 Durnuu wrote:
Now for the 3-0 comeback into tiebreakers plz

As if
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 03 2017 15:35 GMT
#123
Well TY not having an answer
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
June 03 2017 15:35 GMT
#124
I think I'm going to ask my mom to handle my lb's from now on
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 15:41 GMT
#125
TY gonna go mech or something
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 03 2017 15:41 GMT
#126
TY lost when herO decided he was gonna pylon rush
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 15:42 GMT
#127
On June 04 2017 00:41 Durnuu wrote:
TY gonna go mech or something

Yup
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 03 2017 15:42 GMT
#128
I mean, technically cyclones trade well against stalkers.

But not in those numbers.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 03 2017 15:43 GMT
#129
TY deciding whether it's worth it to play the rest of this game or just leave and win GSL
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 03 2017 15:44 GMT
#130
Medivacs need to be able to heal cyclones.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 15:44 GMT
#131
On June 04 2017 00:44 Phredxor wrote:
Medivacs need to be able to heal cyclones.

Cyclones need to be able to transform into Warhounds
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 03 2017 15:45 GMT
#132
Oh i forgot about carriers, RIP TY.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 15:45 GMT
#133
Love that TY is giving us a TvP mech game.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 03 2017 15:45 GMT
#134
On June 04 2017 00:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
Oh i forgot about carriers, RIP TY.

BCs beat carriers now
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 03 2017 15:46 GMT
#135
On June 04 2017 00:45 sneakyfox wrote:
Love that TY is giving us a TvP mech game.

Yeah, going out of SSL with carriers!
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 03 2017 15:46 GMT
#136
On June 04 2017 00:45 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 00:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
Oh i forgot about carriers, RIP TY.

BCs beat carriers now

They always did, technically. Now HTs do not beat BCs, however.
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 15:47 GMT
#137
On June 04 2017 00:45 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 00:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
Oh i forgot about carriers, RIP TY.

BCs beat carriers now

Maybe thors are good too now that they have the extra armor. Immortals are still a problem though
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 03 2017 15:48 GMT
#138
On June 04 2017 00:47 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 00:45 Ej_ wrote:
On June 04 2017 00:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
Oh i forgot about carriers, RIP TY.

BCs beat carriers now

Maybe thors are good too now that they have the extra armor. Immortals are still a problem though

You have cyclons for immortals.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 15:49:12
June 03 2017 15:48 GMT
#139
I can't believe mech is working.

/sarcasm
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
June 03 2017 15:48 GMT
#140
ha ha what a massacre
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 03 2017 15:49 GMT
#141
Not even carriers, eh.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
June 03 2017 15:49 GMT
#142
On June 04 2017 00:48 geokilla wrote:
I can't believe mech is working.

cuz it ain't
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Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
June 03 2017 15:49 GMT
#143
LOL MECH
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
June 03 2017 15:49 GMT
#144
LoL even Mech seems less shitty than bio vs toss atm :D
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 03 2017 15:49 GMT
#145
immortals are good against mech, never saw that coming
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
June 03 2017 15:50 GMT
#146
On June 04 2017 00:49 xongnox wrote:
LoL even Mech seems less shitty than bio vs toss atm :D


im gonna go and say that that is completely false.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
June 03 2017 15:52 GMT
#147
TY right where he deserves to be. Out of SSL.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 03 2017 15:52 GMT
#148
herO is 19-7 against TY in maps jeez
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 15:56:32
June 03 2017 15:55 GMT
#149
Well TY had no answers today, he really shouldn't have lost vs Byun though...
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 03 2017 16:01 GMT
#150
TY's TvP is so fearsome, best in the world. Except when he plays Classic and herO, then he just gets stomped.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
June 03 2017 16:05 GMT
#151
Looks like TvP is a hard matchup nowadays :/.
Poor ByuN, getting rekt by sweaty face Dear .
WriterMaru
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
June 03 2017 16:28 GMT
#152
Zest makes $2.8k going 1-8, herO makes $2.2k going 8-1 lol
Liquipedia"Expert"
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 03 2017 19:46 GMT
#153
Any recommended matches?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-04 01:06:06
June 03 2017 23:26 GMT
#154
Damn what a final day choke by Byun
On June 03 2017 23:42 Durnuu wrote:
I LB'd Dear, I'm such a god

ez bet
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