• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:07
CET 04:07
KST 12:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Zerg is losing its identity in StarCraft 2 Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What happened to TvZ on Retro? SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2275 users

[IEM] Katowice - Groups C & D - Page 77

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 75 76 77 78 79 114 Next
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 03 2017 19:33 GMT
#1521
On March 04 2017 04:33 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 04:32 GumBa wrote:
On March 04 2017 04:31 Elentos wrote:
On March 04 2017 04:30 GumBa wrote:
On March 04 2017 04:29 Elentos wrote:
I guess GuMiho and I do have the same glasses

nerd

You're just jealous because you don't wear the same glasses as your favorite DOTA players.

wrong moba

favourite SMITE players

xD
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 03 2017 19:34 GMT
#1522
On March 04 2017 04:31 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't understand what you don't understand.


What does this
Show nested quote +

More importantly you're trying to argue that the best terrans don't benefit from a "it's not race it's just the player" that the other races don't benefit from, which is a patently ridiculous claim.

mean?

In essence, he's saying that if INnoVation does really well, "it's not the race, it's the player", but if let's say Zest does well, "it's not the player, it's the race".

Not sure I agree.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2017 19:35 GMT
#1523
the cyclone ;_________;
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 03 2017 19:35 GMT
#1524
MaNa with quite possibly the worst robo bay placement possible on Abyssal Reef
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 19:38:10
March 03 2017 19:37 GMT
#1525
On March 04 2017 04:35 Elentos wrote:
MaNa with quite possibly the worst robo bay placement possible on Abyssal Reef

he's putting up a decent fight tho

immediately forgets to focus the lib
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 03 2017 19:37 GMT
#1526
INno is making some mistakes but Mana...
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
March 03 2017 19:37 GMT
#1527
On March 04 2017 04:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 04:31 pvsnp wrote:
I don't understand what you don't understand.


What does this

More importantly you're trying to argue that the best terrans don't benefit from a "it's not race it's just the player" that the other races don't benefit from, which is a patently ridiculous claim.

mean?

In essence, he's saying that if INnoVation does really well, "it's not the race, it's the player", but if let's say Zest does well, "it's not the player, it's the race".

Not sure I agree.

if Zest or Dark would stomp Inno I'd say the same. measuring balance doesn't work by letting the best player from each race play each other and look who wins.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 03 2017 19:39 GMT
#1528
Meanwhile on the main stream, adepts
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 03 2017 19:40 GMT
#1529
Inno playing so sloppy against Mana. He let half a dozen scvs die against adept drop, ate two big disruptor shots and counting, etc, etc.

But it doesn't matter. His macro is just far above Mana's that he can take inefficient trades and still win. Still I think Inno has overconfidence issues against inferior players.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 03 2017 19:41 GMT
#1530
No observer with the army
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 03 2017 19:42 GMT
#1531
not focussing the colossi

is this 2010
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
March 03 2017 19:43 GMT
#1532
wow he cleaned that army up.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 03 2017 19:43 GMT
#1533
This is a good game. Gumi bringing the fun
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2017 19:43 GMT
#1534
did showtime just gift him the game?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 03 2017 19:43 GMT
#1535
In essence, he's saying that if INnoVation does really well, "it's not the race, it's the player", but if let's say Zest does well, "it's not the player, it's the race".

Not sure I agree.


For the top of any race, I'm inclined to say "It's the player."
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 03 2017 19:44 GMT
#1536
lol Gumiho, scv pulls to barely win a fight against colossus deathball in 2017
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
March 03 2017 19:44 GMT
#1537
Even so this matchup could be played for 10 years and barring world war 3, the indomitable snowman, or something of the like InnoVation would still be crushing mid-tier playings like MaNa.

Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
March 03 2017 19:45 GMT
#1538
It's insane to see how INo wrecked Showtime and how Gumiho is struggling...
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 03 2017 19:45 GMT
#1539
On March 04 2017 04:44 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Even so this matchup could be played for 10 years and barring world war 3, the indomitable snowman, or something of the like InnoVation would still be crushing mid-tier playings like MaNa.


Im sure the snowman would revolutionize PvT
Neosteel Enthusiast
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 03 2017 19:46 GMT
#1540
It's insane to see how INo wrecked Showtime and how Gumiho is struggling...

It's the player not the race. Case in point.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Prev 1 75 76 77 78 79 114 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
20:30
Best Games of SC
Serral vs Clem
Solar vs Cure
Serral vs Clem
Reynor vs GuMiho
herO vs Cure
PiGStarcraft500
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
19:00
Masters Cup #150: Group B
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft500
SpeCial 166
trigger 5
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 98
Sexy 75
Noble 34
yabsab 27
Icarus 1
Dota 2
monkeys_forever187
NeuroSwarm53
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m1821
Other Games
summit1g13243
JimRising 371
Fuzer 126
ViBE113
Mew2King69
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick586
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21410
Other Games
• Scarra891
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 53m
RSL Revival
6h 53m
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
8h 53m
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
8h 53m
BSL 21
16h 53m
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
16h 53m
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
19h 53m
Wardi Open
1d 8h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 13h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL: GosuLeague
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL: GosuLeague
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.