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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
March 03 2017 13:53 GMT
#481
I'm kinda cheering for Nerchio to advance
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 03 2017 13:53 GMT
#482
I hope we get to see Serral vs Zest!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 03 2017 13:54 GMT
#483
I for one think that ravagers are a great improvement over the dull roach battles
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
March 03 2017 13:54 GMT
#484
On March 03 2017 22:49 D-light wrote:
Its quite amazing how Serral took retarded fights time after time.


It's not that Serral took retarted fights, it's that Nerchio has some of the best engagements in the world so it makes him look retarded.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
March 03 2017 13:54 GMT
#485
On March 03 2017 22:53 Musicus wrote:
I hope we get to see Serral vs Zest!

that would be pretty one-sided. better show some closer games.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1791 Posts
March 03 2017 13:55 GMT
#486
On March 03 2017 22:51 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 22:49 Fango wrote:
On March 03 2017 22:47 Elentos wrote:
And I guess that's the end of "Serral is the best player in the group"


He seems to be a good player just doesn't have the experience of knowing when to attack, and how to engage

at least in comparison to Nerchio he's bad at engagements. But that might be because Nerchio is just so good at it.

Positioning and knowing when to take the engagement have always been Nerchio's biggest strengths
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
March 03 2017 13:56 GMT
#487
On March 03 2017 22:52 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 22:51 Musicus wrote:
On March 03 2017 22:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 03 2017 22:48 Musicus wrote:
GG, damn that was a great zvz series.

I agree with that. But do people actually like ravager spam as a concept? I mean it spices up roach vs roach i guess, but i would rather see interesting movement micro, flanks, etc instead of bile²

Well I think we still get to see good movement and flanks, just that the biles are great to avoid huge roach clumps crashing into each other all game.

I preferred roach clumps crashing into each other tbh.


I very strongly disagree. I find the ravager fights more interesting then roach headbuts
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 03 2017 13:56 GMT
#488
ParanOid just said that he had talked recently to Nerchio whether it's worth teching to BL or ultras in ZvZ and the conclusion was that it isn't.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
March 03 2017 13:56 GMT
#489
On March 03 2017 22:54 opisska wrote:
I for one think that ravagers are a great improvement over the dull roach battles

with just roaches there was more trading going on instead of just poking back and forth while waiting for the perfect opportunity to engage. So I liked roach battles more.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 13:57:57
March 03 2017 13:57 GMT
#490
On March 03 2017 22:54 opisska wrote:
I for one think that ravagers are a great improvement over the dull roach battles

Everything is better than the fireball ping pong in PvP.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 03 2017 13:57 GMT
#491
On March 03 2017 22:51 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 22:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 03 2017 22:48 Musicus wrote:
GG, damn that was a great zvz series.

I agree with that. But do people actually like ravager spam as a concept? I mean it spices up roach vs roach i guess, but i would rather see interesting movement micro, flanks, etc instead of bile²

there's a ton of army control and tactical movement in roach ravager infestor, Stop focusing on the yellow dots and start thinking why Nerchio's ravagers are always out of enemy bile range and yet hitting all biles.

Oh don't get me wrong. I totally get that you have to dodge and that's a skill in itself. But aesthetically and conceptually it's still lots of bile spam every few seconds. If that is the only way to make roach vs roach about movement and micro then it's imo a bad way. I dislike this ability spam very much.
But sure with the current movement in the game it might actually be the only way to make roach vs roach more than two blobs cuddlign with each other
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 03 2017 13:57 GMT
#492
On March 03 2017 22:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 22:53 Musicus wrote:
I hope we get to see Serral vs Zest!

that would be pretty one-sided. better show some closer games.

I think it's going to be the closest series from the upcoming 3.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28463 Posts
March 03 2017 13:57 GMT
#493
I want to feel like a progamer
I Protoss winner, could it be?
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 13:57:56
March 03 2017 13:57 GMT
#494
On March 03 2017 22:54 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 22:49 D-light wrote:
Its quite amazing how Serral took retarded fights time after time.


It's not that Serral took retarted fights, it's that Nerchio has some of the best engagements in the world so it makes him look retarded.

Whatever you wanna tell yourself, but I'm an expert on taking retarded fights so I should know.
why even
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 03 2017 13:57 GMT
#495
On March 03 2017 22:56 Ej_ wrote:
ParanOid just said that he had talked recently to Nerchio whether it's worth teching to BL or ultras in ZvZ and the conclusion was that it isn't.

yep, he used to prefer roach/hydra/viper/infestor, but I guess now he's switched to just roach/rav/inf
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55466 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 13:58:27
March 03 2017 13:58 GMT
#496
On March 03 2017 22:57 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 22:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2017 22:53 Musicus wrote:
I hope we get to see Serral vs Zest!

that would be pretty one-sided. better show some closer games.

I think it's going to be the closest series from the upcoming 3.

Pretty sure they're gonna show Pili vs Patience on main.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
March 03 2017 13:58 GMT
#497
On March 03 2017 22:57 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 22:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 03 2017 22:53 Musicus wrote:
I hope we get to see Serral vs Zest!

that would be pretty one-sided. better show some closer games.

I think it's going to be the closest series from the upcoming 3.

oh, you're right. I didn't look what the other matches are.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Malgo
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany76 Posts
March 03 2017 13:58 GMT
#498
are there streams which show us the other bo.3? or only 1 like yesterday early? in the afternoon they started to show every series
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 03 2017 13:59 GMT
#499
I like the orange fire raining down

I also like doing it, it's just so satisfying. Normal units just shoot by themselves and any attempt to meddle with it usually makes things only worse (with the exception of corruptors on carriers), here I can actually directly shoot stuff at the other guy

Maybe I should just go play dota or something
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 03 2017 13:59 GMT
#500
On March 03 2017 22:58 Malgo wrote:
are there streams which show us the other bo.3? or only 1 like yesterday early? in the afternoon they started to show every series

Crank usually shows a different game, but not sure about the next one.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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