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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 26 2017 23:00 IntoTheheart wrote: To be honest I never liked the roach/hydra style in ZvT when I played Z for the reasons you mentioned.. It's one of the reasons I've been advocating for a nerf to medivac boost lately. I would like options, but if you don't have unbelievable map awareness (and sometimes even of you do) the roaches are pretty lousy and you lose so much | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Against muta/ling there's a window where I could have an advantage if I wasn't trash and try to win before Ultralisks come out, but against Roach/Hydra I can just chill... comparatively anyway. Still trash so who cares. | ||
Poopi
France12911 Posts
On January 26 2017 22:48 pvsnp wrote: Needlessly harsh. Classic was the best, ofc, and Myungsik was....not, but aLive and Scarlett both played quite well. Obviously, their games weren't INnoVation vs Dark level, but they were definitely worthy of Code S. It's only the Ro32. Only Myungsik wasn't code S level worthy... Classic is like top 16/8, aLive 24/16, Scarlett 32/24. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18631 Posts
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SinO[Ob]
France898 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On January 26 2017 22:48 pvsnp wrote: Needlessly harsh. Classic was the best, ofc, and Myungsik was....not, but aLive and Scarlett both played quite well. Obviously, their games weren't INnoVation vs Dark level, but they were definitely worthy of Code S. It's only the Ro32. I stand by my original statement. | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
I predicted Classic and aLive from the start. Classic is classic. He may not be the top form like in the past but he is still solid nonetheless. aLive is Terran so he has the edge already. It is great to see him doing well. Last year was tough for him. His father passed away and everything. Myungsik was a great player. I love his cheesy style but clearly he didn't focus on SC2 enough. Lackluster performance. His spot should be someone else who is more passionate about SC2 like Patience. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
I stand by my original statement. If you call aLive and Scarlett Code B scrubs, what do you call Bunny, KeeN, Leenock, Ryung, and Trap? They qualified despite being not quite top-tier, but if they all belong in Code B, Afreeca might as well start Code S with the quarterfinals. The best players are rare for a reason; if they were more common then they wouldn't be the best anymore. That's literally the definition of the word. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 27 2017 00:17 opisska wrote: Couldn't this general feeling of "lower level" be simply because of LotV is just harder than any version before, so it requires higher level players for the games to look good? Nobody has ever proven that this is true. Imo it's just "PR" talk just like saying player X is the best we have ever seen every time someone looks really good. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On January 27 2017 00:20 The_Red_Viper wrote: Nobody has ever proven that this is true. Imo it's just "PR" talk just like saying player X is the best we have ever seen every time someone looks really good. It's hard to empirically measure difficulty, but it surely feels that way to me personally, both in game and watching. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Personally i don't think there is a difference tbh, you could argue that the need to expand faster makes it a bit "harder" because you are spread out more, but at the end of the day usually that means that other expansions aren't really "important" anymore. As i said, i think it's mostly PR talk. Would be interesting to explore that topic more though | ||
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Deleted User 329278
123 Posts
On January 27 2017 00:17 opisska wrote: Couldn't this general feeling of "lower level" be simply because of LotV is just harder than any version before, so it requires higher level players for the games to look good? same goes for balance. race x gets screwed (e.g. overnerfed) for a long period and after a while ppl get used to race x getting wrecked and are convinced that top players of race y and z are, well, just better players and start seeing them as "legends" (especially fans of race y and z). in case race x gets re-balanced, suddenly top race x players win stuff again and ppl go crazy like omg how can this be, top race x players win against top race y/z players who used to wreck race x players, omg nerf race x again. u get the point. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 26 2017 22:26 Inflicted wrote: aLive, Ryung, KeeN all in Ro16, what a time to be alive Looking like 2011 out here. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
and even after that, i thought scarlett would be still in .. sigh | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On January 27 2017 00:17 opisska wrote: Couldn't this general feeling of "lower level" be simply because of LotV is just harder than any version before, so it requires higher level players for the games to look good? I don't think the game is much harder, yeah the bases mine out a little faster but that usually doesn't change anything in games that end before the 10 minute mark. TvZ is still bio/mine vs ling bane muta like in HotS, in some other matchups things have changed more but I don't see a reason to believe that it's much harder than before. | ||
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